FIFA making football null and void with Qatar captain's call

Ian Just out of general interest how long have you been posting here you appear to be an unfamiliar figure to me ..

AR whilst I don't have the same interactions with Uncle Junior or fussball as you, or have an issue with his comments as much, depending if its MV bias or not... ;-) - i made a comment weeks ago that UJ is Fussball.

It would also suggest that the promise of air conditioned high tech stadia was a crock and that Qatar could never deliver on that or have since realize they can't or are now weasling out because even their cash mountain has its limits. The idea that the event has to be held to fit in with Euro leagues has always been contentious though because it assumes the world does or should fit in with that.

Haha. I'm going to assume you're being sincere and thank you for the compliment.

AZ is my favourite Roar poster. There is no bigger endorsement than that

AZ has, with typical good humour, captured the *real* goings on here. The underlying message from Uncle Junior is - if you criticise FIFA you criticise football. He asked "Why should we care what Simon HIll says? What makes his comment any more worthy of attention than anyone else’s comment?" It's an inane question that seeks to undermine Simon Hill because he wrote a very reasonable, but scathing article about FIFA and this absurd 2022 WC charade. When UJ says "a Qatar World Cup in Nov-Dec sounds fantastic" - that statement ignores the fundamental point in controversy - the re-setting of tournament dates that was retrospectively necessitated by the first bogus decision. He is certainly sounding errily Fuss-like with each and every post. It's absurd to suggest that you must accept what Simon Hill thinks - but to rubbish his opinion exposes a latent motive - *especially* when you consider Hill's standing in the Australian game, and *especially* when that opinion echoes the overwhelming sentiment of the 2022 farce by other respected and informed persons.

Fair enough, interpret the way you want to, no longer my issue. There is a lot of injustice in this world, happening everywhere & this is not playing the ball, this is a fact, just in case you misinterpret this as well.

My issue isn't with you or your stance. It's the dismissal of people who hold the anti-Qatar view as "oh who does he think he is". I find it a shameful attempt to distract from the issue at hand without actually addressing the issue. Nothing more than a new way of playing the man instead of the ball on this forum.

AZ where did I write anyting on the contrary to what you are saying. I am in no way defending the decision to hold the WC in Qatar, maybe I should heed my advice, for you have interpreted what I meant completely wrong. Let me highlight my thoughts on the WC & FIFA to make surely understand what I mean. FIFA is the most corrupt sporting organisation on this planet & under Sepp Blatter's leadership it's gone from very bad to worse. From a fans point of view, where the peoples of the world unite to party, argue, celebrate, drink, eat & party once more, I don't think this will happen in Qatar. I was at Germany in 06, wanted to go SA 10, family commitment prevented me from going to Brazil 14. I will definitely not be going Qatar 22. Humanitarian aspect, slave labour is a big no no, 1 death building stadium is 1 death too much, where is FIFA here? Again showing their true colours. Holding the WC in 50 degrees heat shows that money was the only aspect of the decision making, akin to holding the next winter Olympics in Fiji. I hope AZ this clears up my stance, but interpret the way you want.

Also what's stopping the next host nation for 2026 of that nation to then turn around as say sorry we're playing this also in a Dec - Jan window instead of the original July ..

I just don't believe there are two ways with this argument. I find the counter arguments for Qatar's legitimacy as a host of the 2022 WC to be utterly ridiculous. The only thing I see here are people who are so blindly in love with the game that they refuse to listen to even the slightest or most obvious criticism of its administration.

Thank you, Punter. You are exactly correct. Maybe my explanation was too complex for some of the simpler folk on this forum. Or, maybe, people like AR and AZRBB just accept everything a commentator tells them. Is Rex Hunt still the most popular commentator in AFL? Maybe, AR accepts everything Rex Hunt tells him? Maybe he also bows whenever Brian Taylor, Sam Newman, Eddie McGuire, Dermott Brereton offer their wisdom on AFL matters. I'm confident in my own analysis of issues relating to football politics. I don't need Simon Hill's input to sway me.

AZ, it's called interpretation, what UJ is saying is just because Simon Hill is saying doesn't mean, we all have to agree, just like if Kevin Sheedy says it, doesn't mean everyone in AFL has to agree. No-one is accusing Simon or anyone here. I read Simon Hill's article & I agreed with most of the context of his article, just thought his first line, 'day that the spirit of the World Cup died' was a little sensationalism. I popped into various football websites & didn't find too many other articles around the world that focused on the death of the spirit of the WC. I wonder if Simon Hill will himself boycott calling the WC qualifiers or even the WC if he got the chance to call in Qatar 2022? I think most people are totally disgusted with FIFAs decision to hold the WC in Qatar, the heat, the humanitarian issues amongst a host of other issues. However, if Qatar is to host the 2022 WC, which it probably will, holding it in Nov-Dec is the most sensible decision. I for one will boycott all the FIFA sponsors to let them know this is not right.

I wanted Asia to host the 2022 World Cup and I'd rather it have gone to Japan. I just don't think Australia is equipped to host a sporting event like the World Cup given the geographical spread of the major cities which will host matches. I'd have preferred all Gulf nations to have bid for the 2022, but happy enough with Qatar provided it was not played in June-July. If it were played in June-July I would have embraced anything Simon Hill said about the decision being a disgrace, or outrageous. But, a Qatar World Cup in Nov-Dec sounds fantastic. Far better than Australia in June-July.

Almost certain Simon Hill is on the books at the AFL. AR and his anti-football cronies can say all they like. The truth is clear to those who bother to open their eyes to what is going on. The quicker we get rid of the likes of Hill, Speed and Slater the quicker Australian football will move forward. Only someone who hates football and particularly loathes Australian football believes that FIFA made the incorrect decision. Then we have Bosnich, or 'Bozza' as the uneducated NRL folk call him. Where do you even start with him? The truth is clear. AR and other Australian football haters can see it.

Not true at all. Of course Hill commentates, but he also writes regular articles, conducts interviews, discusses aspects of the sport - and has become, frankly, 'the voice' of the sport in Australia. You're simply trying to dismiss him as merely a 'match commentator" because you support FIFA and its position on Qatar, and Hill (with many others) does not.

Hill is a match commentator. He's employed for his ability to create the appropriate ambiance for watching a football match. He is not employed for analysis of the actual game or football issues. I don't disregard what Hill says, but I definitely don't regard it as any more valuable than any other person with a love for football.

An Englishman who earns his crust in the Australian football fraternity ... you can't spot the conflict or agendas present