Ex-England coach linked to Stormers

English coaches are stinky poo. Nailed it in one mate. Lancaster, Johnson, Robinson were a bit whiffy. Couldn't name any others because they're all no name club coaches no one cares about.

OB, not entirely sure Tony Brown may be up to the task. Even Tana Umaga is treading warily (mind you, he does have the Blues!!). SL has experience, of another kind; experience of any sort is useful. Just because an ITM coach may want to step up doesn't mean they can make the step up! But I suspect the NZRU may be wary of SL anyway. Phil Mooney and David Nucifora didn't exactly set the world on fire during their time in NZ. Does anyone know what Ewen McKenzie is doing rugbywise these days? :-)

Oh, a failed nucifora from over ten years ago and no others contracted since actually supports your argument? Righty - O then.

Sorry NB you dont get it. NZ teams will not pay people from overseas to coach major rugby sides in NZ. That they havent, means im right. Have some crackers.

Yeah it only applies to England. Whereas dumped Welsh coaches, we Knight them after giving them jobs coaching the All Blacks. English coaches...pooo st1nky right TM?

Sorry, yeah Nucifora. All this "we would never" is nonsense. We would, have and will again. If the All Blacks are not going well for a few years and drop down to 5th or 6th and the best coach in the world happens to be from Texas then NZ may get a Texan as a coach if it is seen as the best thing for the game in NZ. Fo0lish pride is all that stops people from seeing that.

Every single NZ side is influenced by English rugby practices. Wow you come up with some crackers. As for SANZAR coaches drifting north. F-ING MONEY!!!!!! Are you so #@$&# not to see that their players are not coming either! Oh but dont tell me, every single SANZAR player is better than every European player. Heres whats happening. European and Japanese clubs are paying for the worlds best coaches and players to play for them. SANZAR teams cant. Do you get it? One of the greatest teams in history was the English the of 2000-2003. Where they won around 90% of their games and completely dominated world rugby, including SANZAR.

No, but David Nucifora did.

Is that the question? Didnt Mallet coach the Blues?

I think it's still partially a pride thing for NZ rugby. Unlike most of our sports over the years, we've accepted overseas sides, players and coaches know the sport better. Rugby in NZ isn't at that stage yet. Fact is we still believe we play it and coach it better than anyone else. Bringing Lancaster here simply means one less spot for a NZ coach with potential as OB suggests. Has Oz cricket ever hired a dumped English coach?

abf I think the question to ask is "what can/will SL bring to an assistant's role that cannot be provided by an NZ coach??" I'd like to see Tony Brown replace JJ and he then builds a triumvirate of NZ ITM coaches to assist him. Heck, if push comes to shove I'd look at asking Col Cooper, to step in. Surely, there must be some ITM coaches, looking for the next step up.

Because to date no NZ side that I know of will want to be influenced by English rugby practices. If that is not as obvious then I'd suggest your 'doubt' is poorly conceived. NZ and Oz coaches have saturated the NH scene for a reason- because they can't coach properly- there is a simple supply and demand metric operating here. We have too many, they not enough. In what logical world suggests the reverse practice is true when there are none (that I can think of anyway).

If Jamie Joseph does go to Japan (he is an ex-Japanese Test player) then maybe Lancaster maybe able to get a role at the Highlanders, maybe as an assistant! Wouldn't mind it!

Why would a NZ team not take on Lancaster? The team under him were above ave as far as win % goes. Henry quit as Welsh coach after multiple record losses and calls for his resignation. Under Hansen Wales were horrible. They both went on to coach THE ALL BLACKS directly after 'failure' with Wales. So forgive me if I doubt what you are saying.

Born in England, coached England, lived and worked mostly in England, but represented Scotland as a player thanks to his mother's place of birth.

Can you explain? He's English who coached England.

Well technically speaking he's an unsuccessful Scottish coach, albeit one who coached the England team.

Very interesting. Wonder if he would have preferred a NZ position but understandably there's no chance a NZ franchise would take on an unsuccessful English coach, though for Lancaster that would help his career considerably. Imagine three years with the Highlanders in Joseph's absence. Still, the Stormers might give him what he's after. England coaching aspirants really need to get abroad more rather than getting bogged down in England club rugby. Like our AB coaches they need to experience overseas sides more. Both Henry and Hansen have had between them Six nations and lions tours experience. With Schmidt, Cotter, Gatland and others overseas it's likely the next generation of coach will also be well seasoned. They may not be able to command national sides but coaches and players in The home unions really need to experience the game at the ground level elsewhere.