The Western Force should play out of Parramatta

By Spiro Zavos / Expert

Sometimes an idea is such an obvious answer to a number of intractable problems and has so many clear advantages that it needs to be embraced as soon as is practicable.

That idea is the suggestion by the retiring CEO of the NSW Waratahs Greg Harris that the ARU should remove the Western Force from Super Rugby and add a second Sydney team to the tournament in its place.

I would adjust this suggestion slightly. The ARU owns the intellectual rights of the Western Force. It makes sense to move the franchise from Perth to the western suburbs of Sydney and allow a consortium, possibly made up of some of the people who wanted to establish a western Sydney franchise back in 2009, to put a bid together to run it.

Harris is stepping down from the NSW Waratahs, after doing what all good chief executive should do by arranging for an excellent successor, Andrew Hore, a New Zealander whose last job was running the Ospreys in Wales.

Before the NSW Waratahs job, Harris was the chief executive of the Western Force.

He is in the unique situation of knowing the Perth and Sydney rugby cultures and potential markets extremely well.

Harris was interviewed by the SMH’s Tom Decent about his idea about a second Sydney Super Rugby franchise.

“If you look at a small marketplace like Perth,” Harris told Decent, “there’s a lot of good people and a lot of capable people, but the true fact of the matter is whether or not it has the economy to be able to underwrite a club is another thing. If you’re in a business mode you work to your strengths and strength is the marketplace on the east coast… Not even the NRL has a national footprint… they tried Perth but couldn’t make it work.”

Remember Harris has seen the sports experience in Perth and Sydney from the vantage point of having to compete in the two markets with his rugby product.

“Rugby can take a lead through AFL and the soccer. In AFL Brisbane and Sydney, you’ve got two teams because you need to have that rivalry established. In soccer, FFA put two teams into Melbourne and Sydney, so you’ve got as cross-town rivalry. The issue we’ve (Super Rugby) got here is that we don’t have tribalism. Our closest competition is the Brumbies who are three and a half hours away.

“At the end of the day, the ARU chairman (Cameron Clyne) is a former banker. I wonder how many ATMs he’s got in Perth and I wonder how many he’s got in Sydney and Brisbane? If you don’t protect them, then you’re going to lose them.”

This pointer to Clyne is interesting. When Clyne was the head honcho at NAB (disclaimer: I have a handful of NAB shares) he did nothing about the bank’s failing asset of banks in Britain. His successors have put in train the sale of these assets.

This is something Clyne should have done. In business (even the sports business) it sometimes make sense to throw in a hand and take a chance on a new hand.

This is what Clyne should do with the shift of the Western Force to Parramatta.

As the ARU chairman, Clyne is forever blowing his trumpet about how competent in a business sense his executive-laden board is. Well, if that is the case show the rugby public you not only mean business but can generate new and important business for the rugby code.

I would say this, too. Clyne and Bill Pulver are adamant that the future of the rugby game in NSW lies in the western suburbs of Sydney. So confident are they in this analysis that they are prepared to risk the traditional rugby schools and the traditional clubs that have created NSW as one of the provincial powerhouses in world rugby.

I can think of nothing more important in generating a massive rugby presence in the western suburbs of Sydney than basing a Super Rugby team there.

Club rugby in the western suburbs would be invigorated by the western suburbs Super Rugby team. Some talented kids would think twice, perhaps even three times before opting to play rugby league if they had the chance to play Super Rugby.

There is no doubt that a western suburbs Western Force will be far more viable, on and off the field, than the team currently playing out of Perth.

For one thing, the majority of players in Super Rugby or aspiring to Super Rugby in Sydney resist transferring across Australia to start a new life in Perth. A Western Force playing out of Parramatta would never to employ an ageing South African number 10, Peter Grant, because no one on the east coach was prepared to play in Perth as a back-up number 10.

I would think that rugby in Perth could flourish, too. Locals would start dominating the line-up in the local NRC team.

Perth could engage in competitions with a couple of the South African Currie Cup teams the way Queensland did in the 1960s and 1970s, under Bob Templeton, with New Zealand’s Canterbury province.

Perth could be scheduled with Test matches against the Springboks from time to time to cater for the large South African population in the city, as well.

There is nothing remarkable about transferring a franchise from one state to another. The Sydney Swans were once a Melbourne franchise. They are now a Sydney institution.

There is one sticking point, apparently, to immediate action. According to Harris, the Super Rugby competition is “set in stone for at least five years.”

But is this so? I reckon everyone involved with Super Rugby – except the Western Force management – would love to have a second Sydney team and that includes the television moguls, the other franchises that benefit from the monetary success of the tournament and the majority of the players with aspirations to play in the Super Rugby tournament

So here is a challenge to the ARU board. Show that all the pious talk about the diversity on the board and the business heft actually mean something by doing something that could be a game-changer for rugby in Australia.

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Talking about the Western Force, they were resilient in going down 31-14 to the rampant Brumbies.

Michael Foley has brought some young players into the side. The team is actually trying to play rugby rather than concentrating on stopping their opponents from playing in an attractive manner.

They were unlucky in the beginning of the game when referee Andrew Lees missed a massive Brumbies forward pass in a movement that led to a Brumbies penalty and their opening three points from a penalty.

This miss by Lees, his TMO and assistant referees was part of a catalogue of strange decisions, often by TMOs, that has occurred in many of the matches played so far this season.

How did the Hurricanes Ardie Savea, for instance, not actually knock-on when he pulled a ball on the ground forward towards himself before making the pass that allowed T.J.Perenara to score a critical try? Once again, the Blues got a poor decision from the match officials.

And in the Force-Brumbies game, the ACT won a penalty when the Brumbies player obviously pulled a Force player into a ruck. And so it goes on.

I liked Stephen Larkham’s reaction to his team’s three wins from the first three matches of the season: “We’ve certainly had a good start to the competition, but that doesn’t mean you’re going to play well in your next game.”

Larkham is not getting carried away with the wins and is trying to get his team to accept that the more wins they have, the more opposition teams are going to target them.

The Force play the Hurricanes at Wellington next weekend, a game the home side should win given their tenacious and sometimes brilliant play against an unlucky (again) Blues team.

The Brumbies play the Stormers at Newlands. Winning in South Africa against a team like the Stormers is always a good indication in the championship quality of a visiting team. I am picking the Brumbies as the front runners, so far, in the Super Rugby tournament and expect them to win.

It is hard to work out whether the Reds, with their two-head-coaches system improved against the Rebels on earlier losing performances this year, or whether the Rebels just ran out of gas after their long trip back from South Africa.

A steady start saw the Rebels go out to a 16-0 lead. You sensed that a try then might just encourage the Reds to fold. But they fought back instead. The Rebels looked out on their feet.

The Reds went into the final minutes down by only two points. But their attack fizzled out with the Rebels getting the winning points, deservedly I thought.

Was it significant that the Reds co-interim head coach Nick Stiles was quoted (and not his co-interim head coach partner Matt O’Connor) on the official Queensland Rugby Union media release: “It was an improved performance, full of grit, but the most pleasing thing is just how disappointed the group was in the change room after the game because we got ourselves in a position to win the game – poor discipline, particularly early in the match, cost us.”

It is probably unkind to point out a more obvious truth that the Reds lineout and scrum (Stiles’ area of concern) were much less impressive than usual and the back line (the O’Connor area) still stood so deep they seemed to be playing out of the stands.

I couldn’t detect any great difference between the lacklustre, clueless play of this side and the lacklustre and clueless sides Richard Graham put out on the field.

The Sharks had a tough victory over the Stormers at Newlands, and showed that they are (right now at least) the form team in the South African group.

I was impressed with the exuberant play of Joe Pietersen, a small, lively player who resembles Aaron Cruden in size and talent. Will the new Springboks coach, whoever that might be, have the sense of adventure to perhaps try Pietersen out as the Springboks number 10?

The Lions defeat by the Highlanders 34-15 was more impressive than the scoreline suggests. The Lions were certainly not out-played. Three of the Highlanders tries came from broken play and long range attack.

And the Lions, rather than the Highlanders, despite their tough tour of Japan and New Zealand, were the ones who stormed home at the end of the game.

The Chiefs redeemed themselves with a seven-try thrashing of the hapless Kings. I reckon the match of the round next weekend will be the Chiefs and the Jaguares at Jose Amalfitani Stadium. The Chiefs’ scrum, shaky most of this season, will have to improve substantially for the side to get out of this match with a win.

Finally, what a pity that the Sunwolves could not hold on to their large lead against the Cheetahs, going down 32-31 in a thriller after blowing a 31-13 lead.

The Sunwolves play the Rebels at Chichibunomiya Stadium, a real test for the visitors.

The Rebels are currently one of the stronger Australian sides. We will get some sort of insight into how strong the South African Conference really is with the outcome to this game next weekend.

From the early evidence about the new teams, the Kings are unlikely to win any matches, the Sunwolves should win several matches and the Jaguares have already won a match and are shaping up to challenge for one of the finals places in the South African conference.

Two out of three of the new teams, therefore, are worth their places in the Super Rugby tournament. This outcome isn’t as bad as what most of us thought would be the case before the season started.

The Crowd Says:

2016-03-24T00:37:59+00:00

Dave

Guest


I'm afraid these and other comments about the local comp are wide of the mark. All Force players are registered with a Perth club, may even play with them occasionally. But if you check the origins of the 23 players named for the Force last weekend, only 2 are products of WA, and even they were born in Sth Africa. The figures show 5 players each from Queensland, NSW and South Africa in terms of where there grew up, went to school and played their first serious rugby. There are 4 from NZ, 2 from WA, and one each from Vic and Tas. I'm not suggesting getting rid of the Force or even that the local comp isn't thriving or unlikely to produce stars in the future. I wouldn't have a clue. But let's not pretend that the team is a local product. Here is the team with origins: 1. Pekahou Cowan - product of NZ and Narrabeen sports High, Sydney 2. Nathan Charles - Sydney University 3. Tetera Faulkner - Melbourne, born NZ 4. Ross Haylett-Petty - WA, born Sth Africa 5. Adam Coleman - Tasmania 6. Angus Cottrell - Brisbane 7. Matt Hodgson - Eastwood, Sydney 8. Ben McCalman - Sydney Uni 9. Alby Mathewson - NZ 10. Peter Grant - Sth Africa 11. Semisi Masirewa - Fiji, NZ 12. Solomoni (Junior Rasolea) - Brisbane 13. Ben Tapuai - Brisbane 14. Marcel Brache - Sth Africa 15. Dane Haylett-Petty - WA, born Sth Africa Replacements : 16. Chris Heiberg - Sth Africa 17 Heath Tessmann - Queensland 18. Jermaine Ainsley - Perth, but grew up in NZ 19. Sitiveni (Stevie) Mafi - Sydney 20. Brynard Stander - Sth Africa 21. Ryan Louwrens - Sth Africa 22. Ian Prior - Queensland 23. Albert Nikoro - NZ

2016-03-23T12:49:00+00:00

piru

Guest


Force tickets are $30 odd, we have 10 - 12 odd players from the local comp, fans turn up rain or shine (imagine the Waratah crowds if they had the sort of season we had last year) - no one's propping us up. Does Sydney have a drug epidemic we're not aware of? You all sound high

2016-03-23T12:43:59+00:00

piru

Guest


Great idea, move the team with the most loyal fans in the competition to Sydney where the locals can ignore them. Stay off the crack pipe

2016-03-21T02:16:29+00:00

Rory

Guest


If Perth is unviable, I'd be looking at Gosford. The NRL continues to treat it with disdain, and there is a potential market there with a great stadium right next to the railways line. Some great players (think AAC) have come from there. I see potential to turn the Central Coast from a rugby league heartland to one for rugby. So maybe play the games out of Parramatta and Gosford? Just a thought....

2016-03-16T10:34:20+00:00

Owen

Guest


Australia will get a 6th team in 2020 which will be based in Western Sydney.

2016-03-15T21:13:00+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


They represent Southern Districts, Penrith Emus, Parramatta Two Blues and West Harbour. 4 Shute Shield clubs. Yeah I guess you are right, they do represent nobody.

2016-03-15T10:17:33+00:00

nerval

Guest


Are you talking to yourself again, Bakkies?

2016-03-15T07:52:22+00:00

Squirrel

Guest


The rams represent nobody. Soto correlate Western Sydney and rams figures is typically ludicrous from TWAS

2016-03-15T05:13:05+00:00

Phill

Guest


Hhhhmmm, recycling old news for the sake of having something to say? These players not wanting to play in Perth.... does this extend the other way too? What about young players not wanting to go to Sydney? How about those kids that want to play for their local team? By not having a local team to play for could mean that these rising stars are lost to AFL or NRL. Look at how they are promoting the game in WA? The NRL have even decided to play an ANZAC Test in Perth. Match that ARU. Won't happen though, will it? I am constantly astounded by the east coast bias in Australia. If it's not from the Republic of Sydney then it's not worth bothering with. Melbourne and Brisbane both get a good mention in that too, but if you're trying to expand the game in the country, then things don't stop at the edge of Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. Your short sighted comments about moving the Force expose your lack of understanding of the greater sum of the parts of the game and how it should be taken forward. But then.... a journalist based in Sydney...... 'nuff said.

2016-03-15T05:05:44+00:00

Fretch

Guest


So is kylie godwin. There is a large south African community in perth. Which is helping the growth of the game over there.

2016-03-15T04:31:01+00:00

markie362

Guest


Ur kidding of u think moving the wf to sydney will grow the game in perth.it would die and foxtel would b the only beneficiary

2016-03-15T03:46:49+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Prior to that he was involved in Sydney University Sport. Also played for Sydney University.

2016-03-15T03:34:21+00:00

Sam

Guest


Correct. Digby Ioane was also from Endeavour Hills. Not a bad back line here: 9. Faalaavu 10. Toomua 11. Ioane 12. Lealiifano 13. Tapuai 14. Naivalu 15. Tuipulotu Rocky Elsom was also Victorian. On terms of development in relative terms the Force are slightly ahead but there are bucket loads of talent coming through the JGC, the U20s and the Rising squad.

2016-03-15T03:21:39+00:00

Sam

Guest


Greg Harris also served as Manager of Football Operations for the Rebels in 2011

2016-03-15T01:50:49+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Ah yes. Endeavor Hills boy.

2016-03-15T01:16:19+00:00

Sam

Guest


You've done your homework! Only one I'll add is Allan Faalaavu who's running around with the Thunderbolts.

2016-03-15T00:46:55+00:00

wazza

Guest


He`s got you Brett, those at the ABS think anything further out than 20 kilometeres from the CBD is not " BRISBANE " .. These are Allegedly not part of "Brisbane city", even though you can catch a train ( on a suburban line) from Brisbane City Central to get there.. Moreton Bay Regional Council 401,661 Population Redland City Council 153,628 Ipswich City Council 202,147 Logan City Council 327,517 Plenty of rugby supporters come from here as well to support the Reds.. Sunshine Coast Regional Council 277,944 Gold Coast City Council 543,954

2016-03-15T00:26:19+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


And of course the huge market he points to has seen his team be bailed out twice, to a far greater extent than the Force were this year.

2016-03-15T00:25:14+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Sheikh as I noted there is a bit of Vic grown talent floating around, and still playing in Europe too.

2016-03-15T00:19:40+00:00

Marto

Guest


So those many 100 000`s of people in PINE RIVERS ( NORTH ) 15 K from CBD REDLAND SHIRE ( EAST ) 15 K from CBD LOGAN CITY ( SOUTH ) 20 K from CBD and IPSWICH ( WEST ) 25 K from CBD are not part of Brisbane or are REDS supporters?? Brett you`re excused, and the ABS are wrong..

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