Five talking points for Super Rugby Round 8

By Brett McKay / Expert

It’s another really interesting round of Super Rugby ahead of us this weekend, with a number of games of vital importance for both teams in the contest.

The Chiefs will remain on top of the table despite having the bye, which is certainly a fair reflection of their scintillating form over the first couple of months.

But below them, a number of key contenders go head to head, which is sure to deliver us a weekend of intriguing rugby. Here’s the talking points for Round 8:

The next real test for the Rebels?
The Waratahs in Sydney were a test for the Rebels, and the Hurricanes in Melbourne tonight is yet another one. And in truth, season 2016 is going to be full of tests for the Rebels.

I mentioned this yesterday in the tipping panel, that if the Rebels are going to genuinely take the next step toward a maiden finals berth, then this is exactly the sort of game they have to win consistently. All those teams around the Rebels on the table – currently the ‘Canes, Bulls, Sharks, Blues and Waratahs – are the teams the Rebels need to be consistently beating.

They lost to the Bulls in Round 2, so that chance is gone. The win over the Waratahs was important, not just for it being in Sydney, but that it also allowed the Rebels to open a gap and move up the table. A win over the Hurricanes won’t open a gap, but it will allow more table movement, quite possibly even displacing the ‘Canes in that final trans-Tasman wildcard spot.

Being able to name an unchanged side from that which beat the ‘Tahs is a nice bonus for Tony McGahan, and the bye will have allowed any niggles to be tended to. Nic Stirzaker didn’t see halftime in Sydney, but will be better for the run, and you get the feeling that if he and Jack Debreczini can win the battle of the halves with TJ Perenara and Beauden Barrett, that will go a long way toward deciding this game.

Equally, whoever of Debreczini and Barrett has the best night off the kicking tee will be crucial – both head into this match kicking at 68% success rates.

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‘Canes season on the line?
This seems like a funny thing to be asking of a team with a 4 and 2 record currently, but there is a bit of method to my madness. Diggercane, you’ll probably need to wipe off whatever you just spat all over your screen!

The ‘Canes are ‘seemingly’ back on track, with four straight wins under their belt, though the last three have involved putting 40+ points past the Jaguares, Kings, and Force.

But according to SANZAAR’s official stats, the Hurricanes are tackling with an 83% success rate, ranking them tenth overall. And the useful Vodacom Rugby app out of South Africa has them missing more than 18 tackles and making a similar number of handling errors per game, too.

Starting with the Rebels in Melbourne tonight, the Hurricanes then host the Chiefs next weekend, head to South Africa to play the Lions and Sharks, before returning home to host the Reds before the bye. They’ll then face the Highlanders before the June International window.

Now, you could make a decent case for the ‘Canes winning at least three of those six games to come, but you could just as easily make a case for them losing as many as four. And while 4 and 2 looks fine at the moment, how confident would Hurricanes’ types be feeling with a 6 and 6 record at the break?

The Beale/Folau show is on
It was mooted throughout the off-season, and the idea of Israel Folau playing at outside centre has been around for longer than that. At Super Rugby level at least, he’s done a lot of defending in the front line over the last 18 months or so. Now that he’s been named at 13, it’s going to be really interesting to see how it plays out – and indeed, whether it’s a one-off thing or an ongoing experiment.

There’s plenty of upside. It certainly gets Folau more ball, and that was generally a good thing when he played in the centres in his league days. Putting him straight off Beale only magnifies their combination, too, meaning the communication in defence between the Brumbies midfielders is going to be crucial.

But it’s not without risk. There won’t be anywhere near as much space for Folau to operate in, and even when playing fullback, teams have had success against the Waratahs when closing down Folau’s attacking space. It arguably puts more pressure on whoever will be defending inside Folau – Matt Carraro, probably – when Beale drops back. And as talented as Andrew Kellaway obviously is, there’s going to be a fair bit of pressure on him at the back in his starting debut, too.

Brumbies’ test of depth
Though they’re reasonably well equipped to cater for David Pocock’s suspension, the upsetting and shock retirement of Ita Vaea this week really changes the dynamic of the Brumbies’ forwards pack.

Jordan Smiler is a really handy backrower who I’ve got a lot of time for. He’s an excellent defender, and a strong ball-carrier, and he’s almost perfect off the bench in Super Rugby in that his flexibility allows him to cover all the loose forwards positions, and lock too, at a pinch.

But is he the Brumbies’ long-term solution at no.8? It’s something that probably won’t be answered on Saturday night, but will have to be answered before too long.

Jarrad Butler will become an option once Pocock returns; indeed, Pocock himself could become an option once he returns. But neither of them – and nor Smiler, really – offer anything like the wrecking ball carnage that Vaea often delivered with ball in hand. Vaea’s acceleration into contact often bought the Brumbies an extra metre or two over the gain line and with it, the ability to recycle quickly and move defensive lines backwards.

The sooner the Brumbies can replace that element of Vaea’s game, the healthier their forwards game and general attack will be.

Could a Lions win seal Africa 2?
Maybe not on its own, but a Lions win over the Stormers following a Sharks loss to the Blues in Auckland would create a gap within the conference of at least six points, and will certainly strengthen the Lions’ claims.

The next fortnight following sees the Lions play the Kings and then host the Hurricanes, while the Sharks’ New Zealand tour only gets tougher, heading to the Chiefs and then the Highlanders.

On current form, I can’t see how I’ll be tipping the Sharks for either of those games just as I haven’t this weekend (my own tipping form notwithstanding).

And when you consider that, it’s then not at all inconceivable that the Lions could win all three of the aforementioned games, too. So over the next three weeks, they could break out as far as 14 points – even more, with bonus points – ahead of the Sharks within the conference.

And that would take some catching.

The Crowd Says:

2016-04-15T20:52:43+00:00

wolfman

Guest


except Mumm was one of our best in 2015...

2016-04-15T12:15:27+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Oh, that makes sense as it wasn't very funny. Unfortunately, it appears you blokes got ripped off again by those bludgers. ;)

2016-04-15T12:01:37+00:00

Bludger

Guest


Not supposed to be funny, Kiwis are long re-known for their fondness for rocking up over here to get their snouts into the welfare trough. We call the All Blacks, the 'All-Bludgers'.

2016-04-15T07:01:44+00:00

Akari

Roar Rookie


I am looking forward to Folau at 13 and I hope it works as I'd been expecting since the start of the season.

2016-04-15T06:55:49+00:00

Akari

Roar Rookie


I didn't know that Simmons was out and thanks for that. With S out, I am guessing that the Reds will revert to early season form.

2016-04-15T06:48:34+00:00

Akari

Roar Rookie


Similarly, the Rebels very experienced Mitch Inman and Tamati Ellison could exploit an inexperienced Canes 12 and 13 newbies. I am looking forward to this match-up tonight.

2016-04-15T06:43:44+00:00

Akari

Roar Rookie


I am a Timani fan but I agree that his work rate could be better. I suspect that he is not a very strong trainer. Imagine if he was fitter as he could do damage with ball in hand.

2016-04-15T06:36:39+00:00

Squirrel

Guest


Yeah I'm interested in seeing Kellaway cement his place as the 15

2016-04-15T06:24:10+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Die hard... 'that he might prosper there is unreasonable.' I don't know if it just a poor choice of words but I disagree... it's not unreasonable at all. He may surprise us all by showing some maturity to his game. He also may fail... convincingly so. But at the end of the day let's put this to bed... give him the chance, just as the coach has, and see what happens. I remember early on that Nonu was somewhat little skilled except for his running ability... and over time his passing developed, and further his kicking game became at times sublime. And I know he's a 12 and not a 13, but in Aussie he'd be a 13 :)

2016-04-15T06:04:40+00:00

Die hard

Roar Rookie


I disagree with the move. Centre is a more demanding role to play by far and the thought that he might prosper there is unreasonable. A centres role is more of positioning and covering than line breaking. Folau can off load but passes poorly left or right. A centres role is to straighten the attack and set up a winger which Folau would need to learn. A crash through role like Kuridrani would be wasteful. Any back three role is preferable for him. He uses spaces better when he has the ball at the back moving forward rather than taking it in contact. And then of course are the defensive roles of the centre to consider. I agree about the Canes. They have the ability sometimes to play at the level of their opposition. Feet of clay and hands of lead playing away. But this year they have been finding a way of winning the close ones.

2016-04-15T05:39:39+00:00

Old Bugger

Guest


...'ang on a minit lads. Wat's gorn on 'ere then?? Are you lads 'avin a bit of bromance 'appenin, then??? Talk about it. This is a rugger blog.....init??

2016-04-15T05:15:30+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Yes, those cold temperatures really are our Achilles heel.

2016-04-15T05:12:22+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Ya see Chook, it's all about the journey ;)

2016-04-15T05:11:34+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


I know right? It's not even original. Whatever happened to the famed Ozzie wit? ;)

AUTHOR

2016-04-15T05:01:46+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


If you mean Canberra, LFRSIP, it was still 29C at kickoff that night!!

2016-04-15T04:29:01+00:00

Dean

Guest


Against the highlanders the Rebels towelled themselves up. The Rebels defence (apart from high balls) was actually quite good with the Highlanders tries coming directly from Rebels mistakes (a dropped ball by Placid and an intercept from Debreczini who was trying to do too much after a stinking night). Replacing Placid with Hodge is a big improvement and the backline will settle a bit more with Stirzaker. The first 40 against the tahs with Stirzaker compared to the last 40 without were like chalk and cheese. I don't know if I'm missing something or everyone else agrees, but Meehan is bloody hopeless. The Rebels have consistently made good ground through Thompson, Reid and McMahon. Get the Canes on the back good and then give the backs a run at it and they're always a chance to score. Of course with Barrett and Savea, the Hurricanes are pretty bloody likely to score too. It's a beautiful day (it was a wet NZ of a day against the highlanders). I'm tipping a 28-30 type of match which could go either way.

2016-04-15T04:23:01+00:00

Long Retired Flanker, Still In Pain

Guest


I think the Melbourne - Wellington match is the most interesting of the weekend. Remember what happened the last time the Hurricanes played a match in a less-than-warm part of Australia...

2016-04-15T04:14:18+00:00

John

Guest


Unfortunatley we have the one dimensional FOLEY at 10..

2016-04-15T04:12:49+00:00

John

Guest


Well Dean Mumm never plays well for the Wallabies but is contuinually selected, so i think Special K has every right to be picked, and he will...

AUTHOR

2016-04-15T04:12:04+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Sounds remarkably similar to what he's been doing for 18 months...

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