Agree. Even in the opening match under Pim Verbeek against Germany, Australia didn't go out with a strategy of 10 men outside the box defence. In fact, from memory, in the opening minutes of that match, Richard Garcia had a shot blocked on the line by Philip Lahm.
How good would it have been to go 1 nil up against Germany after 5 minutes.
Certainly against Chile & Netherlands at WC2014, Australia created enough goal chances to win both matches.
The last time i saw an approach like that was Holger's last two games in charge. Under Ange we have been an attacking side not only against Asian sides but we have attacked Ecuador, Costa Rica,Holland,Chile,Germany and even Spain though we were just outplayed on that occasion. I'd say the Spain game is the only time in 2 years a world class side has done us over and i'd say a young and inexperienced side being mentally exhausted played a big part in that.
@Fox Saker
"as we have seen in the [past from Australia by virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area "
I've watched nearly every match featuring the National Team over the past 40 years. I wonder which matches you've watched where Australia played with "virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area".
Certainly under Ange Postecoglou I don't recall seeing any Australian team adopting the formation you've described. But, I could be wrong - could you please provide some examples.
Hi Fox, thanks for the comment!
Unfortunately, I have to agree. England simply have more skill, talent and experience and I believe they will defeat the Roos. However, an upset is always on the cards.
Thanks again.
England will be too good, or damn well should be, but we might get a damage control game as we have seen in the [past from Australia by virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area then it will be tedious to watch and let's be honest Australian football will want to avoid a blowout as it will vividly highlight the gap in class in some areas of the game at least.
I suspect and unfortunately, we will see an element of this type of tactic in the game and if Australia score first wait for them to go on the defensive to protect the lead.
Australia will still consider a draw a victory whereas for England that would be a loss almost, and that is how the game will be played with that in mind.
Despite predictable public pontificating to the contrary from coaches and players- Hope I'm wrong though and get surprised
Fussball IUL
Roar Rookie
Agree. Even in the opening match under Pim Verbeek against Germany, Australia didn't go out with a strategy of 10 men outside the box defence. In fact, from memory, in the opening minutes of that match, Richard Garcia had a shot blocked on the line by Philip Lahm. How good would it have been to go 1 nil up against Germany after 5 minutes. Certainly against Chile & Netherlands at WC2014, Australia created enough goal chances to win both matches.
The Phantom Commissioner
Roar Rookie
The last time i saw an approach like that was Holger's last two games in charge. Under Ange we have been an attacking side not only against Asian sides but we have attacked Ecuador, Costa Rica,Holland,Chile,Germany and even Spain though we were just outplayed on that occasion. I'd say the Spain game is the only time in 2 years a world class side has done us over and i'd say a young and inexperienced side being mentally exhausted played a big part in that.
Fussball IUL
Roar Rookie
@Fox Saker "as we have seen in the [past from Australia by virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area " I've watched nearly every match featuring the National Team over the past 40 years. I wonder which matches you've watched where Australia played with "virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area". Certainly under Ange Postecoglou I don't recall seeing any Australian team adopting the formation you've described. But, I could be wrong - could you please provide some examples.
Sam McCosker
Roar Pro
Hi Fox, thanks for the comment! Unfortunately, I have to agree. England simply have more skill, talent and experience and I believe they will defeat the Roos. However, an upset is always on the cards. Thanks again.
Fox Saker
Guest
England will be too good, or damn well should be, but we might get a damage control game as we have seen in the [past from Australia by virtually having 10 guys in the 1st third or penalty area then it will be tedious to watch and let's be honest Australian football will want to avoid a blowout as it will vividly highlight the gap in class in some areas of the game at least. I suspect and unfortunately, we will see an element of this type of tactic in the game and if Australia score first wait for them to go on the defensive to protect the lead. Australia will still consider a draw a victory whereas for England that would be a loss almost, and that is how the game will be played with that in mind. Despite predictable public pontificating to the contrary from coaches and players- Hope I'm wrong though and get surprised