What should Australia expect from England and Eddie Jones?

By wre01 / Roar Guru

One thing is for certain, Eddie has not come to Australia to lose and he has a side capable of winning.

As an Aussie living in London for the past ten years, there is no greater time of anticipation for me than an England vs Australia Rugby Test. To have three to look forward to this month is sensational.

I am by no means an English Rugby expert, but over the past ten years I have closely followed the Premiership and Championship (England’s second tier). I hope I can offer fellow Aussies some insight into what to expect from England.

Firstly, it must be said that Eddie Jones has turned England around in a quite extraordinary fashion. To say that the recriminations after the World Cup were vicious would be an understatement. The English team was kicked from pillar to post not just by the press but by almost every ‘fan’. There is no equivalent of that degree of vitriol or venom in Australia in my opinion.

To turn England into Six Nation Champions some six months after the World Cup experience was a either a miracle or an incredible act of coaching. So how is Eddie doing it?

Obviously, the word on the street is that Eddie is doing what Eddie does. Taking training, fitness, preparation and commitment to new levels. Certainly fitness and conditioning in England has not seen anything like it. It’s obsessive.

Eddie is almost the Jose Mourinho of Rugby. His approach seems to have a similar intensity and players respond, at least initially. Eddie hasn’t won as much as the Special One but Eddie intends to change that in 2019.

Jones has also taken two key coaching personnel from Saracens. ‘Sarries’ are the most successful English club in recent times, having won the European and English double this season and interestingly are a club with a strong South African influence.

Steve Borthwick the former Sarries and England captain has been signed to sure up England’s traditional set piece strengths. Paul Gustard, the former Saracens defence coach has been brought in to coach a ‘wolf pack’ defence. One that swarms and reduces space but can be breached with creativity and intelligence.

Perhaps most significantly, Gustard has also provided a link to England’s most promising ‘next generation players’ who alarmingly have now won a grand slam as relative babies. It is here where Eddie has been very astute.

The youth coming through England Rugby at the moment, particularly through Saracens, is incredible.

Billy Vunipola, a Kefu-like No.8 is a sensational ball carrier but wasn’t fit enough in the past. Owen Farrell, a tenacious and aggressive 10 or 12 is mastering his game and learning what options to take and when. England’s group of locks are now athletic and powerful but do the basics right also. George Kruis, another Saracens player is joined by Joe Launchbury and Courtney Lawes as three very capable locks both in the set piece and open play.

Yet the biggest story player wise is Maro Itoje, yet another Saracen. Physically, you won’t find a player more suited to the international game and he is only 22. He is big bodied, tall and aerobically can play as a lock or in the back row. Not just that, but he has leadership skills, intelligence and game nous to excel. In the past three years he has won a junior World Cup, English Premiership, European Championship and Six Nations grand slam.

Barring a disastrous injury, Itoje will be talked about in the same breath as John Eales, Victor Matfield and Martin Johnson in time. He may even be better than all three He is that good.

Eddie has built his pack around this nucleus of young Saracens. Kruis, Itoje and the Vunipola brothers. He has realised that to compete with the Southern Hemisphere, he needed athletes.

England needed not just weight but athleticism across the board. Oddly, this concept has been lost in England for far too long. Watching the English forwards run ragged in October (or was it even September) last year was the straw that broke the camel’s back for English Rugby, at least at international level.

Eddie’s selections reflect this new push to athleticism, power and dare I say it, mongrel. Dylan Hartley, Lawes, Itoje and James Haskell will not submit like England did in 2015.

There are some contentious areas and surprises. And still some weaknesses.

George Ford has been dropped. Surprising as he started most Six Nations games at 10 and also the warm up against Wales last weekend. Not altogether unexpected as he’s low on confidence and struggling for form. Eddie may feel the risk of Samu Kerevi and Michale Hooper running at the 10/12 channel all game is one he doesn’t want to expose Ford to.

Oddly, both Australia and England seem to have selection problems in the midfield. Both have gone for safe bets in Kerevi and Luther Burrell respectively who are full of line breaking potential and solid defensively.

Also selected are two out and out fliers on the wings. Yarde and Watson can both finish and have pace to burn, far greater pace than either Dane Haylett-Petty or Rob Horne.

Some thought Itoje may start at 6 but Eddie has gone for two ‘6 and a halves’ in Haskell and Chris Robshaw. England still struggle to find a 7 and this is a big problem in Australia for Eddie.

In my opinion this is because the value of open-side flankers has not been realised until recently in England, a bit like tight-head props and scrum coaches in Australia. Not having a Liam Gill, Hooper or David Pocock in your team on a wet, muddy February day in Leicester is all well and good until you host a World Cup in September.

It is the back row where the game will be won or lost. Not in the tight five or midfield.

Also worth mentioning is the comparative strengths of the benches. I don’t want to go into the Wallaby selections too much, but I must admit the bench was the one area that disappointed me, particularly the selection of Dean Mumm and to a lesser extent James Horwill.

Although Horwill has been great at Harlequins in London, I’m not sure he has the pace in his hamstrings to make an impact off the bench these days.

England’s bench has aggression and punch in abundance. Having Luke Cowan-Dickie, Lawes and Launchbury all to call on is significant. The Wallaby bench and especially Horwill and Sean McMahon will really need to stand up and be counted.

It will be a special occasion in Brisbane, and a cracking game.

England team to play Australia
15. Mike Brown, 14. Anthony Watson, 13. Jonathan Joseph, 12. Luther Burrell, 11. Marland Yarde, 10. Owen Farrell, 9. Ben Youngs, 1. Mako Vunipola, 2. Dylan Hartley, 3. Dan Cole, 4. Maro Itoje, 5. George Kruis, 6. Chris Robshaw, 7. James Haskell, 8. Billy Vunipola.

Replacements: 16. Luke Cowan-Dickie, 17. Matt Mullan, 18. Paul Hill, 19. Joe Launchbury, 20. Courtney Lawes, 21. Danny Care, 22. George Ford, 23. Jack Nowell.

The Crowd Says:

2016-06-10T11:26:47+00:00

Chaz

Guest


Too true- I saw his headline "Skelton unlucky to miss out on selection" (as an England fan I was devastated) after I saw your description and smiled. Aristocratic offsider- love it!

2016-06-10T09:49:25+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


Spiro has some diamonds in the rough but I refuse to even read the dribble his aristocratic offsider churns out; clickbait pure and very simple.

2016-06-10T09:47:29+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


Chaz Thanks for that; I don't get to see any of the european domestic rugby so the boot is on the other foot for me and I can learn a lot from you blokes; adds to the enjoyment when watching the game. My main focus will be on the Wales game but I will be tuning in for this match later in leiu of dessert.I'm expecting a hard-fought tussle and nothing less will do.

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2016-06-10T09:24:54+00:00

wre01

Roar Guru


Chaz I think you are right about Jamie George. I do know he was injured for a period and Jones may feel he's not quite right. Cowan-Dickie is still a very good hooker and was great for Exeter this season. There is allot of surprise about Yarde in London. My boss this morning said he wasn't sure what Jones had seen but he wished he had seen t while Yarde was paying for Quins! I think by going for raw pace with Watson and Yarde, Jones may see Australia's lack of pace out wide as a vulnerability off phase ball (i.e. defence gets sucked in by Burrell/ Joseph and then ball thrown wide). As I have said above, I think 7 is a huge vulnerability for England. I don't think Clifford or Harrison are at the standard of an international 7 yet and are some way off. I think Clifford is ultimately a 6 or 8. Harrison is very raw.

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2016-06-10T09:14:53+00:00

wre01

Roar Guru


Please you enjoyed the read moaman. I think Jones realises that playing too laterally against the Wallabies would be a disaster as he simply does not have the back row (7s) to get to the ball first. As I said in the article, I think the open side position in England (and the NH in general) is a real problem and they face a dilemma similar to the one we had with our props. If you don't value the position properly it doesn't get developed. I have had so many debates at Harlequins about Robshaw not being a 7. Even after the World Cup there is a large element of English Rugby who still won't accept that argument. Even Warburton is nowhere near a McCaw/ Pocock/ Hooper/ Gill standard. So I think Eddie always intended to play a big ball runner at 12. Burrell and Te'o are similar to Tuilagi who would have played there if he wasn't injured.

2016-06-10T08:21:20+00:00

Squirrel

Guest


Oz should expect A defeat in the first test

2016-06-10T07:47:21+00:00

Chaz

Guest


Have a look at his article today- one of his best.

2016-06-10T07:39:54+00:00

Christopher Clarke

Guest


I had to chuckle at Chaz's remark about the vitriol in the UK press as opposed to The Roar. If vitriol had wings then Mr Zavos, complete with his interminable anti-English ramblings, would assuredly be an international airport.

2016-06-10T06:42:43+00:00

Chaz

Guest


Good article. One of the reasons I like coming here is the lack of vitriol you highlight (much of it ill informed) that is ever present in the UK media, both from journalists and posters. The other reason is with limited access to Super Rugby I get to learn what's going on and who to look out for in the games against the SH. If I can reciprocate in a small way and add to the above, looking at the two teams I confess a a certain nervousness from England's perspective, especially on the bench. Burrell is big and strong but not the most subtle or aware- he's fine against Jamie Roberts but Giteau or Beale would have him on toast. Given the WB selection he may be okay, but he's certainly not a long term solution. Yarde is fast and strong, but he doesn't have Nowell's intelligence and footballing ability- he won more turnovers than any other English player in the 6N. On the bench, I think the props will do fine for 20 minutes despite their inexperience, given the quality of opposition they meet every week in the Premiership (Vunipola and Cole are more likely to concede penalties) but I think Jamie George at hooker is a big miss, especially given TPN's scrummaging power. I also worry about the back five- there are some great locks but when your 23 has 4 of them and Haskell is the fastest in the back five, given what the WB back row did in October there's cause for concern. Expect at least one of Harrison and Clifford (both inexperienced and occasionally naive, but quick, strong and skillful) to feature before the end of the series. I think England can win one of the three, but I doubt it will be the first.

2016-06-10T03:29:49+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


Enjoyable and informative; I took the selection of Farrell as back-tracking by Jones and a sign that England are going to revert to a more traditional game-plan (which by the way I think is playing to their strengths) ; I didn't think about it from a defensive/defence point of view. Do you think Jones would have continued with Ford had Oz being playing a Giteau type 2nd 5? I have not been a fan of Horwill (the player) and like you I think he will really need to step up if he is to make an y impact off the bench. England will need to keep in touch on the scoreboard at the least if their bench is going to win it for them.

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