State of Origin key questions: Queensland edition

By Lachlan Bickley / Roar Guru

Welcome back to The Roar’s State of Origin key questions series where we look at three questions for each team ahead of the Wednesday Night’s Game Two. Today we will look at Queensland while tomorrow we will cover NSW.

For Queensland we will consider whether the loss of Nate Myles is much of a loss at all, discuss the Maroons’ conservative game plan in Origin 1 and ask what’s up with all the health scares in Queensland camp.

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Question One: No Nate, no problem?
At the time of writing the only change for the Queensland side from the team that edged to victory in Game 1 is the inclusion of Jacob Lillyman in place of the injured Nate Myles.

Myles has been a tried and tested member of the Queensland team having played in all but one game over the last decade of dominance for Queensland. However, as we highlighted in the Key Questions column before Game 1 this year, he was already under considerable pressure to retain his spot in the team.

His raw statistics for Manly this season are lacklustre at best. He is averaging just 86.4m per game on slightly less than ten carries per game. Five other Sea Eagle forwards are performing better in that category and though in defence he is making his fair share of tackles with a robust average of 28.9, his attacking stats are quite simply not the statistics of an Origin prop.

In particular it his lack of carries that is most concerning as most elite props are well into the teens in carries per game and players like Andrew Fifita and Paul Gallen closer to 20 carries.

Meanwhile, Jacob Lillyman, who will replace Myles in the Queensland team, has enjoyed a strong season for the roller coaster Warriors. Lillyman is averaging 120m per game on a solid 14 carries and has been particularly strong in recent weeks (with the exception of the game against the Raiders in which pretty much all of the Warriors players failed to impress).

Lillyman was also fantastic in his last appearance for Queensland in the Game 3 shellacking in 2015 as he pounded the ball up the middle of the field again and again.

On that basis Lillyman was an easy call up for Myles with the only question being whether he would go straight into the starting line-up or alternatively would he come onto the bench with either Josh Papalii or Josh McGuire promoted to start.

While one could make a strong case for putting Lillyman’s considerable club and State experience into the starting line-up as of this moment Coach Kevin Walters has indicated that McGuire will start allowing Lillyman to come off the bench along with Papalii. This will allow Lillyman and Papalii to renew a bench middle unit partnership that wrought utter destruction in Game 3 last season.

Question Two: Will they get out of the grind?
While the narrative coming out of Origin 1 focused on the struggles of the NSW playmakers to generate points, it is worth noting that Queensland were hardly excitement machines either.

Indeed Queensland actually had slightly more possession, kicked for slightly more metres and ran for only a handful fewer metres than NSW. With that share of possession and territory it is worth asking the question why didn’t this juggernaut of a Queensland team post more points?

Certainly the sludgy surface didn’t help but a conservative game plan also contributed. The team had 161 play the balls yet only recorded a cumulative 429 touches.

This means that for every play the ball the team recorded only 2.6 touches and when you consider that dummy half to first receiver is two touches it suggests that the play was deliberately kept quite tight to the ruck, what is often referred to as one-out running.

NSW meanwhile had with 452 touches from their 155 play the balls for a rate of 2.9 touches per play the ball. While a 0.3 difference doesn’t sound like a lot, it does actually reflect a considerable increase with most club games falling somewhere in a 2.5 to 3 touch per team range. This places Queensland near the bottom and NSW near the top.

For example consider the recent free flowing Cowboys versus Sharks Monday night game in which the Cowboys at times seemed utterly cavalier with the ball and still only went at went at 3.1 touches per game while the Sharks were at 2.7 touches per play

Further evidence of the conservative approach for Queensland was the offload statistics which showed that NSW also offloaded the ball far more often with nine compared to the Maroons’ four.

Yet this is not meant as a criticism of Queensland in of itself. A conservative, grinding game plan in slippery conditions and in a high stakes game probably makes sense. Certainly it got the job for Queensland, But with a dry surface and a one game advantage surely we can expect the Maroons to break free of the shackles a little more this time round?

Question Three: What’s up with the constant health scares?
Finally we get to questions three and with a team as dominant as Queensland have been for the last decade, we sadly run out of key questions pretty quickly.

That’s because they’ve answered pretty much every conceivable questions already. Whatever NSW have tried over the last decade Queensland have been ready, willing and able to respond to.

However the one thing they don’t ever seem to be able to do is have an Origin camp without some sort of injury or illness drama. Before Game 1 it was Cooper Cronk’s ankle, this time it was a virus that was reported to be “ripping through” the camp. Last year before Game 2 it was Billy Slater’s shoulder and Greg Inglis’ chest infection.

Now I’m by no means putting on the tin foil hat and accusing the Queenslanders of inventing these injuries or illnesses.

One look at the close up of Cronk’s ankle from Game 1 is enough to dispel that sort of silliness. Also the fact that Slater went on to miss the rest of the season after his pre-Origin injury would suggest pretty hard core commitment to playing out the charade if indeed the injury was manufactured.

But for whatever reason the Queensland Origin camp is always beset by some sort of trial and tribulation. Perhaps after all these years of dominance the team has even sub-consciously taken to exaggerating things to give themselves a hurdle to overcome. To make things worse than they are ignite the competitive fire.

If only New South Wales could pose a similar challenge to them in the game itself.

The Crowd Says:

2016-06-22T09:06:03+00:00

Parsifal

Roar Rookie


Surely one of the biggest questions concerns why league folk seem unable to grasp the fact that there is a double "o" in the word maroon. Do these people all venture out at night and bark at the moan?

2016-06-21T04:51:41+00:00

Raugeee

Guest


yeah Squish - no rain forecast. Should be a firm track. Anything can happen, e.g first half Game 3 2007, where QLD had 3 serious injuries in the first half. Everything being equal - I can't see NSW getting within cooee. If Cronk does get injured early ala Game 1 2014, JT & Morgan will still be a hot pairing.

2016-06-21T03:16:56+00:00

V.O.R.

Guest


What else is against NSW. 1. The Cauldron 2. First time the Blues new back line and spine combinations will be playing in front of a hostile Origin crowd. Inglis to put all sorts of pressure on 21 year old Walker. 3. Seven of the Blues have never played an Origin in QLD. In the backs only Jennings and Maloney have. 4. Corey Parker's retirement at home as a winner. 5. Penalty givers - NSW have pedigree. Dangerous where a very parochial home crowd will be demanding penalties. Some interesting figures below for penalty givers from the 2015 & 2016 seasons. QLD 13+ with ease. 2016 (after 14 rounds) 1st - Maloney 17 4th - Fifita 14 (way up on average from last year) 8th - Frizell 13 15th - Jackson 11 17th - C.Smith 11 18th - Thurston 11 23rd - Tamou 10 41st - Aaron Woods 9 59th - Dylan Walker 8 60th - Greg Bird 8 61st - Jack Bird 8 64th - Klemmer 8 2015 2nd - Maloney 27 3rd - C.Smith 25 9th - Fifita 19 16th - Tamou 17 30th - Aaron Woods 15 31st - Jackson 15 32nd - Klemmer 15 44th - Thurston 13 51st - Papalii 13 52nd - Gallen 13 57th - Guerra 12 59th - Farah 12 Frizzel 11 Thaiday 10 Gillett 10 Jennings 10 Reynolds 9 G Bird 9 J Bird 9 D Walker 8

2016-06-21T02:25:41+00:00

spruce moose

Guest


Superb comment Les.

2016-06-21T00:28:19+00:00

MrJSquishy

Roar Pro


I think you're right on the mark there Raugeee. In the last five years (from the 2012 series up to game 1, 2016) games at Stadium Australia (6 of them) have yielded only 111 points with NSW having scored 60 to QLD's 51. While at Land Park (5 games), there has been 191 points scored with QLD scoring 139 of those points. More than the total at Stadium Australia with 1 less game being played at Land Park! Average scores: NSW at home: 10 points. QLD at Stadium Australia: 8.5 points QLD at home: 27.8 points NSW at Lang Park: 10.4 points I can't see anyhting other than a demolition by QLD in game 2...

2016-06-20T22:05:48+00:00

Raugeee

Guest


Re Q 2: It took QLD 12 attempts to crack a win at Stadium Australia. They learnt the hard way that a slow grinding approach is the only way do get over a determined NSW. I thought Game 1 this year was a classic. Origin is about incredible defence and NSW just never gave in. Blues a little lucky as several bad decisions were covered up behind the tryline. Hark back to Game 2, 2014. QLD were grinding out a hard fought 4 - 0 advantage. Dave Taylor, against coaches instructions, tried a flamboyant offload which affected a turnover. NSW went on to win from that. The look of sheer anger on Mal Meninga's face was palpable. Dave Taylor never selected for Origin again. Look at the experience in the Maroon side. Smith, Parker, Thurston, Cronk, Boyd, Scott, Inglis, Morgan, they've all played huge Finals Footy at Stadium Australia. They know what it takes to win there, and that is attrition. No Josh Morris in defence in Game 2, looking for a man of the match from GI. I am thinking of something similar to Game 2 2008, when QLD were coming back after taking a bath in Sydney 18 - 10 in Game 1. The score was 30 - 0 that night and I reckon something near that on Wednesday night. QLD by 19+

2016-06-20T21:49:33+00:00

Les Norton

Guest


They have had the same bus driver for 10 years, they are loyal you know.

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2016-06-20T21:09:16+00:00

Lachlan Bickley

Roar Guru


Haha yep it's not like that. For NSW (coming tomorrow) I could have come up with ten or twelve questions. For Qld I was struggling after the first one

2016-06-20T20:48:42+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


4. Does the bus driver know the way to the ground? Yes? They should be right...

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