My best ever team of premiership-less players

By Tim Holt / Roar Guru

The cliche that you need to be in the ‘right place at the right time’ is so apt when it comes to winning premierships.

Some great players have retired having never been part of a premiership-winning side.

The following 22 is a tribute to those premiership-less players since I started watching the game in 1971.

B: Ian Nankervis (Geelong) Matthew Pavlich (Fremantle) Trevor Barker (St Kilda)

HB: Rohan Smith (Footscray) Gary Hardeman (Melbourne) Neale Daniher (Essendon)

C: Doug Hawkins (Footscray) Robert Harvey (St Kilda), Robert Flower (Melbourne)

HF: Gary Ablett Snr (Geelong) Bernie Quinlan (Footscray/Fitzroy), Phil Krakouer (North Melbourne/Footscray)

F: Brad Johnson (Footscray) Tony Lockett (St Kilda/Sydney) Jim Krakouer (North Melbourne/St Kilda)

FOL: Gary Dempsey (Footscray/North Melbourne) Nathan Buckley (Brisbane/Collingwood) Garry Wilson (Fitzroy)

I/C: Peter Motley (Carlton) Michael Turner (Geelong) Matthew Larkin (North Melbourne) Len Thompson (Collingwood/South Melbourne/Fitzroy)

Back line
Good luck scoring against this back six.

It starts with the masterful Matthew Pavlich at full back, and Ian Nankervis, a human blanket of small and medium forwards, next to him. The versatile Trevor Barker, who endeared himself to fans with his kamikaze courage and his big marking, could play on any type of forward as well.

At centre half-back is the stylish Gary Hardeman, one of the true underrated greats in the game’s history. The flankers include the run of Rohan Smith and arguably football’s greatest example of ‘what if’ in Neale Daniher, who if not for cruel injuries could have been a legend with the talent he had.

Centre line
With its skill and style, this line would carve teams up.

Each of these midfielders could break a game wide open in their own way.

The blue collar grit of Hawkins, dancing feet of Harvey and timeless nature of Flower would leave all in captivated awe.

Forward line
I salivate looking at this forward line on paper, with an AFL Hall of Fame legend in Tony Lockett its centre point at full forward.

And the other five forwards are hard to match up on too.

Gary Ablett had the cat-like reflexes of a small forward, combined with the strength and marking ability of a tall. The ‘Superboot’ Quinlan also offered versatility, having begun his career as a damaging ruck rover capable of bombing goals from 70 metres out, before finishing as a key forward.

The Krakouer brothers were lethal with their outrageous synergy and creativity, setting up goals with their skill and vision.

And Brad Johnson was a great player who could blitz the opposition, especially in this team.

Followers
The great Gary Dempsey was an old style ruckman, adept at his tap work, and damaging with his marking around the ground. When he was positioned a kick behind the play, he wrecked all the chances of leading forwards by out marking any and all. Off the bench as the second ruck, Len Thompson was similar but also capable of posing a real threat when resting forward.

Rounding out the trio is Nathan Buckley with his lethal foot skills and ball-winning ability, and Garry Wilson with his all-round game and strong goal sense while up forward.

Interchange
Keeping Thompson company is the trio of Michael Turner, Peter Motley and Matthew Larkin, all three being vindicated champions, capable of playing in many roles. Motley’s story, like the aforementioned Neale Daniher, was a footy tragedy. He had been destined to become a legend before a tragic car accident cut his career short.

The Crowd Says:

2016-09-29T13:30:06+00:00

Sambo

Guest


Zac Dawson stiff

2016-09-29T12:21:31+00:00

Floyd Calhoun

Guest


I'd have Kelvin Templeton before a couple of those on the interchange.

2016-09-29T10:43:02+00:00

michael steel

Guest


Fabulous Phil Carmen Peter McKenna many of the great Collingwood players from that era (I'm not Collingwood) Carl Ditterich Sam Newman and other Geelong greats Peter Bedford, Bernie Quinlan Barry Round and many other Brownlow winners from lesser sides. There are plenty to pick from

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T09:19:02+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


I left him out for rarely saw the great Swan play, having only started watching from mid 71 onwards

2016-09-29T07:59:48+00:00

Mike Huber

Roar Pro


Tim Tuddy was before my time however , my father rants and raves about how great Des was . From all accounts , excluding my dad's one eyed version, he sounds like he could play a bit and run thorough the proverbial brick wall !

2016-09-29T06:25:03+00:00

kick to kick

Guest


Great idea for an article and easy to overlook players. The biggest omission is Skilton, in the AFL'a team of the century but never won a flag. though to be fair falls just out of your time frame. Jim Stynes in the ruck is another option

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:44:32+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Roos is a huge gaff by i and I cannot believe I left out my all time fav player in Maurice Rioli

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:43:21+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Moore is a great call as is Picken. As a Pies fan, i thought you would throw up the real standout- Des Tuddenham The others you mention are very worthy

2016-09-29T04:43:02+00:00

DingoGray

Roar Guru


Well done Tim. But for me Paul Roos, Chris Grant and Matthew Richardson the hardest done by in missing out.

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:40:03+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Riedwoldt is still playing so still has a chance to get one. The others you mention are very worthy

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:39:18+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Roos is very worthy but i was in awe of Hardeman

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:38:21+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Rioli is a huge gaff by I, I kept thinking he was in the Tigers 1980 Flag, mistaking it for his S/Fremantle flag

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:36:32+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Riedwoldt isnt retired yet, hence he still has a chance

AUTHOR

2016-09-29T04:35:57+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


Skilton I rarely saw, Neitz was in the running and Kelly, maybe down the list

2016-09-29T04:29:12+00:00

Mike Huber

Roar Pro


Obt I forgot about Paul Roos, he was blindingly good . One of the few players who could commandingly play a range of positions all over the ground.

2016-09-29T03:39:32+00:00

Pumping Dougie

Guest


Great side and great article Tim. Good to see these champions get some more recognition. I think Paul Roos, Chris Grant, Nick Riewoldt, Nicky Winmar, Richo and Scotty West all deserve inclusion. I'd remove Hardiman and all of your bench to fit them in. Lenny Hayes probably gets a spot too.

2016-09-29T02:45:04+00:00

richo

Guest


surely Gary Lyon needs a gig here

2016-09-29T02:11:27+00:00

Brian

Guest


did you have to retire to make the side. Fyfe and Dangerfield didn't make it either.

2016-09-29T02:03:34+00:00

Obtuseone

Guest


No Paul Roos? I never saw Hardeman play but think it unlikely that he was superior to Roos who also played with distinction at CHF. I agree with Mike Huber that Peter Moore was more deserving due his athleticism which allowed him to play as an extra Ruck Rover. I don't consider Motley to be eligible because his career was too short and lacked the career awards that the others garnered. Neil Daniher also due to abbreviated playing career.

2016-09-29T01:34:57+00:00

Shaunock

Guest


Reiwoldt has played all of those positions but Pav was been named all Australian fullback in 2002. He has that over Nick in this case who has only ever received that honour in the front half of the ground.

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