Highlights: All Blacks crush Pumas in Buenos Aires

What struck me about Moody's yellow card was that the tackle on him was way behind the play - he was not in the ruck and he did not have the ball. This happens too often and I wonder if I have been missing on a rule change where a player can be tackled without the ball? Perhaps the AR should be looking at this form of foul and the neck role tackle - there were 2 in the first 10 mins of the game. One last thing the great sir John Kirwin - recently known for his resounding success at coaching the Blues and Italy - has stated that the ABs current domination is not good for world rugby! Remember the WIs cricket in the 80s u der Clive Lloyd and Australia under Steve Waugh. The rest of the world had to catch up - those sides were not hampered by officials trying to even the game up. Would be better to give teams a 20 point handicap against the ABs instead of screwing around great rugby with the whistle.

I am sure Dixon and Squire will improve with game time. They are putting alot of work into improving the raw skills of Damien Mac. He will come on and improve as well. The biggest loser? Well I am afraid Fekitoa could be on his way out....ALB has already surpassed him, especially regarding running lines, distribution and off-loading. Will ALB start in Durban?

ck I think you'll find Read, started his provincial career, playing at lock before he turned, to No8. Consequently, he was a line-out jumper long before, he pulled a No8 jersey on. He was nudged to No8 because both Canterbury and the Saders, had some decent locks in their ranks, who were all taller and heavier, than Read. Just glad that someone had the foresight, to shift and retain, his skills.

True Gazza, he was certainly inspirational for the Blues the last few matches and its clear hes listened to the selectors, picking his work rate up and making some storming runs as he did when he first came on. Havent watched him a lot in the Mitre 10 but he could get the nod over Ioane in the NH tour if they decide to take one or other. Ioane could play all three of the back row, Luatua lock and 6 so good options should Squire and / or Elliot fall out of favour.

Really Dan? Lets wait until Tuipulotu has two dominant test matches before we argue he is more physical to the 2014 World Player of the Year.

Luatua is a lazy player. Excellent ball carrier but does not like to clean out rucks or tackle. Poor work rate.

Akira Ioane (1.94cm, 113kg) is taller and heavier than Kieran Read (1.93cm, 111kg) so Ioane is certainly big enough to play 8. Also, line-out jumping is a skill that can be coached. Read was not a primary jumper when he began his career at the Crusaders playing 6. He became a primary jumper with the All Blacks afterwards.

Ioane, Luatua. They may be good but who do they take the place of? Not Read or Kaino so fighting for a bench spot or waiting for an injury.

When Patrick has proven himself in the fiersest of battles over a few years then lets look at putting him in the same catagory as Brodie. Until then he isnt. Simple

I thought the ref called a yellow because of 2 penalties in one sequence. Thats what he said at the time. So not a yellow for foul play but a yellow for 2 penalties 1 offside and 1 foul tackle) in 1 sequence. ?????

I'm not promoting some Grothe vs Savea schoolboy quarrel, Taylorman. It was a coincidental sighting of a winger doing what a winger does with the ball to protect it while he nullifies tacklers, worth using as an example in response to Dubaikiwi's:

"One other point can someone teach Julian how to carry the ball and how to fend!"

"It’s well known Savea. Is having a form issue this year"

"string of ‘very good coaches’ not teaching him properly"

Argentina had the benefit of the referee when Ardie Savea was neck rolled and they didn't receive a yellow card. The linesman didn't pick up a forward pass and then a knock on within five seconds of each other by Argentina in the first ten minutes. They are allowed to dive and do cheap shots on other players like Sanchez on Moody, which is what he retaliated to. No sanction for Sanchez even though it was clearly off the ball foul play. Every team pushes the boundaries. But when you're getting shellacked regularly then people turn a blind eye.

"I realise that this might sound like a “conspiracy theory” but it’s just how I see it: the ABs get the rub of the green with the referees because they are in awe and don’t feel that they can give out penalty tries/cards" This is at the heart of your post. I understand this is a bug bear of yours. But I dare say you look at the stats and New Zealand would be high on the list of most penalised and most carded. But as you have stated yourself this is merely how you 'see it'. Based on a feeling rather than evidence. It wasn't an illegal tackle for me and certainly didn't warrant a yellow card. You have avoided answering any of my questions regarding the neck roll. Most definitely a yellow card and the fact it didn't get one in the context of this game is to coin a term you love to throw around - 'ridiculous'. But I also realise that you would be shouting for teams to be playing a 14 man All Black side because then you've got a chance of getting within 10 points of losing rather than the usual 20.

Good to know. They should play to that then I say.

At dispute is whether it was, in fact, an illegal tackle. All are welcome to their opinions of course, but opinions are just that and not facts per se. Was it really an illegal tackle? There are two schools of thought here. Either we say it was factually illegal because: 1. The ref called it as such; job done. The weakness in this idea is at least twofold; it assumes a ref cannot make a mistake and it risks the reverse application of the logic, that is to say, if the ref did not call something then it is by implication legal. 2. The rules state so; then reference the rule and examine video evidence for application. This assumes video evidence exists and works best when rules are clear. For mine (just opinion); (a) I don't think it was an illegal tackle. (b) I don't think 3 penalties in a row equals an automatic penalty try in the rules. (c) I don't think the AB's scrum was retreating heavily each time. (d) I don't think the rules were applied differently because of the teams playing. (e) I am less than convinced at this point any team particularly got the rub of the green in that game.

The all blacks are scrutinised by officials more so than most teams redsback. The amount of illegal off the ball stuff the wallabies gave been getting away with is laughable at times. I guess the fact that they're usually getting pumped by 15 - 20 points a game takes the magnifying glass off them to a certain degree.

Really? Patrick not the physical force of Brodie? Sorry mate, you're mistaken. Have a look at players running into Patrick and look at players running into Brodie. Then look at when both players charge upfield. I'd say Patrick is the more physical force of the two. He just hasn't had enough game time. Play Patrick when the AB's are up against Argentina, South Africa and England. Patrick and Brodie with SW to come in at the 60th min mark. Did you notice how Isa struggled to get past Patrick? In fact I don't think he ever did throughout the whole game. Running into Patrick is akin to running into a steel wall, forget the bricks!

It was an illegal tackle which stopped him short of the line. To suggest that Cruden was in the act of scoring last year from 5m out is just ridiculous. And I'm sorry, but your semantics between head and neck are ridiculous: it was either an illegal/dangerous tackle or it wasn't. No one questioned Cooper's being a yellow card and a penalty try last year, so you have to ask why you draw such a distinction here. You also haven't addressed how 3 penalties in a row in 5m scrums is not a penalty try either. Unlike the situation of the Wallabies in Rosario a few years ago, the big difference here is that the ABs were heavily retreating each time they went down. For mine, if you are retreating and you collapse it, it should be a penalty try the first time: if it was a mall and it was collapsed 2m out from the line it would be a penalty try 9 times out of 10. Why are referees so afraid to call this - particularly against the ABs. As for the linesman: he was doing a good job. Admittedly, he didn't run in until he saw the replay in the Sanchez, but at least he did it. It's, unfortunately, one of two clear examples of the role that directors have on games: South Africa clearly had their SuperSports director instructed not to show things which would negatively impact the Springboks until it was too late to change it (i.e. Kerevi getting tackled without the ball as Cooper was looking for the offload 5m out from the line). I realise that this might sound like a "conspiracy theory" but it's just how I see it: the ABs get the rub of the green with the referees because they are in awe and don't feel that they can give out penalty tries/cards, and South Africa manipulates the results of games through directors.

To tell the true I have been to many games and the respect the ABs had last night was amazing. No lasers, Barret was able to kick in silence, and we also had fireworks at the end of the game for the men in black and the so many kiwis that were at the stadium .So I do not know what you are talking about.

Nibrain: what was with the respect for the kicker nonsense? Never has there been a Pumas game in Argentina, in the rugby championship where there has been less atmosphere. You could hear a pin drop every time Barrett kicked. The same couldn't be said for when Sanchez was kicking with the 1,000 or so kiwis making their voices heard.