Unrealistic AFLW knockers need to keep quiet

By Les Zig / Roar Guru

Anybody who bashes the women’s AFL league on the basis of quality is ungracious.

Yes, the quality at this stage is mixed. Nobody expected (or should’ve expected) an elite league formed from a pool of part-time and makeshift players. I’m sure when Australian rules started originally, the quality wasn’t great.

It was – and remains to this day – a work in progress. Only in the last three decades has the game become professional, with full-time players, feeder leagues established to generate the best the country has to offer, drafts, etc.

And, you know what? Some of the players we see are still questionable – at least for the top level. We have players who are one-sided, players who can’t hit a target, players who fumble, players who double and triple grab marks (if they take them at all), players who can’t read the play, players without composure, etc.

Many players don’t last in the system – even gun prospects. It’s a constant cycle, always seeking better talent to sustain excellence.

Another criticism of the AFLW is the low scores. But – and this applies to the AFL, too – why does high-scoring equate with quality? What you want – what I want when I watch any sport involving scoring – is a tough, honest contest.

That’s it. Give me that, and I’ll be engaged, regardless how low the scores might be, or how scrappy the contest. Give me one team scoring twenty goals to an opponent’s fifteen, the ball slingshotting back and forth with the abandon of basketball (and that’s fine for basketball, but Australian Rules?) and I grow bored.

That’s not what our game is about. It’s not what our game has ever been about. Why do certain people keep using that as the standard? Why is there a constant drive to design the game so scoring increases?

I enjoy the women’s league for the competitiveness of it and for the tribalism, although I do wonder if it mightn’t have been worth abandoning established clubs and creating new ones from scratch. Understandably, you create – for example – a Collingwood team so Collingwood fans will have a natural allegiance, and thus the club has an immediate base. But what about Richmond fans? And St Kilda fans? Etc.?

Who do they support? Can they develop an affinity for clubs they’ve disliked (if not hated) for all their supporting lives? The existing talent pool is struggling to sustain eight clubs, so it’s unlikely in the foreseeable future we’ll have eighteen clubs to cater to every fan.

Arguably, there’s not enough talent to sustain eighteen AFL teams.

It might’ve been worthwhile creating the AFLW in the image of the Big Bash League, which abandoned the state teams (Victoria, NSW, etc.), and created new franchises that fans could gravitate to without prejudice. Many scoffed at the formation of the Big Bash, but it’s now a thriving entity in its own right.

Before the Big Bash League, the A League largely did the same thing – another thriving competition. Yes, teams were state-based, but without any sort of club lineage, exclusivity, or affiliation.

I also query the AFLW’s placement. They’re often playing in hot, oppressive conditions – I wouldn’t want my AFL team playing in such heat (hello, AFL, and your scheduling of mid-afternoon games in WA), and would worry about how it affects them not only during the game, but in the immediate short term (the next few weeks), and the long term (the season).

How do they recover? Also, once the JLT Community Challenge began, the AFLW seemed to become secondary. You have a three-week-old amateur competition up against the return of the established professional competition.

It could be a better option to have them work in partnership with one another, e.g. playing the AFLW concurrent to the men’s competition, starting it in August (using the current format), and playing the games before AFL senior games, just as the reserves used to play.

Imagine what a thrill it would be for the AFLW players to play in front of big crowds at the MCG. It would be a great experience, fantastic developmentally, and give them much greater exposure – all things that would help continue to grow the competition and help it evolve. You could even fixture double headers, e.g. an AFLW game as a twilight game, an AFL game in the evening.

As the AFLW competition developed its own identity and fan-base, the games could start being scheduled separately, but interspersed throughout the AFL fixture.

Good luck to the AFLW and those involved in it – I don’t know what I expected when I watched that first game. I recognise and acknowledge it’s rough (at the moment), and not always the most scintillating spectacle in regards to a showcase of skills and precision (although, still, there’s been some amazing highlights that would sit comfortably among their AFL peers), but it will get better and better over time as the game is grown across the country.

I also recognise, acknowledge and admire the endeavour of the footballers. They’re for real.

And that’s something you can’t fault.

If you do, you’re probably just a miserable old bastard.

The Crowd Says:

2017-03-03T11:50:58+00:00

Swanny

Guest


Sailosi. I agree it's terrible

2017-03-03T06:47:35+00:00

Tabitha Freeman

Guest


See here goyim (points to WAFL) this is the future of sport. You may not like it, but this is what peak athleticism looks like now. Suck it up.

2017-03-03T00:20:37+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


So, if you are not interesting in Aussie Rules, why take the time to point out you won't be watching, do you stop in at articles on the men's game and point out you don't watch? Is it perhaps because you feel you need to make sure everyone knows you won't watch women play?

2017-03-02T23:56:09+00:00

Reality Check

Guest


The level of hype and related sunk costs invested to-date in the launch of the AFLW has been humungous, and AFLW ‘boosters’ without doubt deserve a great deal of credit in this regard. It is however, the clear right and prerogative of every individual, to applaud, reject or simply ignore the AFLW completely, and it is not up to anyone else to restrict any expression of opinion, whether positive or negative; notwithstanding the perceived underlying motivation. Bleeding heart whining and gnashing of teeth, does not after all really count for much in the greater scheme of things.

2017-03-02T08:58:23+00:00

Forestgimp

Guest


There should be no place for "unrealistic knockers" in footy, it's not. Bay watch after all...

2017-03-02T08:24:00+00:00

northerner

Guest


Well, personally, I'd ask what do the guys playing AFL aspire to? They can't represent their country. So maybe, the girls aspire to something like the guys do - play footy, earn a bit of spending money, and if they're good enough, maybe a living salary and a job in sports as a coach or commentator afterwards. Ór just move on to a post-sports life, having enjoyed the journey. What exactly is the problem with people making choices about spending a few years playing a sport they love, even if they don't get to play it at an international level? Why does this point keep coming up? Shouldn't sports be about what you love to do?

2017-03-02T07:35:40+00:00

Bobby

Guest


Also not a fan of the Western Australian Football League. Not enough exposure in Melbourne for mine

2017-03-02T07:10:36+00:00

Vichy

Guest


Cat you just started 'Code war crap' with your last comment you goose? So what do these girls playing AWFL have to aspire to? They cant represent their country can they??

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:26:00+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


No, if you saw Tayla Harris's mark against Fremantle, or Kate McCarthy's five-bounce goal, you'd know there's some legitimate highlights.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:24:08+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


And that's absolutely fine, Mike. Nobody's saying you should like it for the sake of liking it. The article is aimed more at people who are disliking it for the sake of disliking it.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:23:28+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


You're entitled to your criticism. But (and this isn't aimed specifically at your comment) be justified in making it. I do know people who criticise the AFLW for the sake of criticising. I also know people who went into watching it expecting some elite showcase of skill and talent, and then disdained it because they didn't get it. It's a new competition. It's going to take time to find its feet.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:21:40+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


You can dislike it for whatever justifiable reasons you might have, but I do know a number of people who deride it for the sake of deriding it.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:20:35+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


It's going to get media attention. It's a new competition breaking ground. Eventually, it will be up to the competition to warrant the attention, but right now I think it deserves its exposure.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:19:05+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


They're started to play a few reserves games before the seniors, e.g. last year at Collingwood vs Carlton, the reserves played first. I think the AFLW would make a good curtain raiser.

AUTHOR

2017-03-02T05:18:18+00:00

Les Zig

Roar Guru


The thrust is simple. It's rough because it's starting out. People run around complaining about the standard. Give it time. As for the complaints re the AFL, there's been criticisms in recent seasons that not enough goals are kicked. Apparently, a high-scoring game is a good game. A low-scoring game with packs, etc., isn't I don't subscribe to that. A good game is a good contest, regardless of score, as opposed to this trend of playing football like basketball.

2017-03-02T04:51:20+00:00

Mike from tari

Guest


I am not interested in watching WAFL, simple as that, doesn't mean that I should be crucified, I only watch sports I'm interested in, pure & simple.

2017-03-02T04:17:18+00:00

Rossy

Guest


Fair enough if that's the case Cat, any criticism I level at AFLW is very small and certainly not from those areas. I like NRL, Rugby, Football, Cricket whatever, AFL is great too so more AFL is a good thing. Also fantastic to see a national womens comp, like with the WBBL in the summertime it's great to have pathways for female athletes. In saying that, there is some valid critcism (which is probably too long to go into in a comment) you can level without discouraging either of those points. I was referring to content like the well balanced article Geoff Parkes wrote which unfortunately some have taken exception with. Certainly agree with you that there are problematic contributions that don't help anyone on both sides of the debate.

2017-03-02T04:16:43+00:00

Joey

Guest


The world game is the most followed game in the world, but not in Australia's crowded marketplace. Of course the AFL had to work for their funds, but their funds are higher leaving them more money to invest in promotion. It really isn't that hard to understand...

2017-03-02T03:27:01+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Very little of the criticism is objective though. The vast majority can be summed up in two categories: 'code war crap' and 'sexist crap'. Objective opinions that are open for debate are always welcome.

2017-03-02T03:24:35+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


But its the 'world game' the most popular, the fastest growing, the biggest, the best etc etc etc. Yet it has no money? Why? AFL isn't handed their funds, they went out and worked at it and earned it.

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