WATCH: Nick Farr-Jones sees the need for a messiah

The bankruptcy argument is nonsense. If money was the overriding factor the most expensive franchise would be cut. It was not.

Why is he roar asking Farr-jones an opinion about anything? This is a man who has been given everything by the game, and given nothing in return. This is a man who has stolen money (yes stolen) from the NSWRU and given it to a mate. This is a man who has pulled strings to get family members jobs at investment banks. So why is the roar asking him anything? Oh that's right, he's spiros mate.

Or that I prefer 4 teams to bankruptcy...

TWAS, based on everything you have written on these pages, you yourself don't like what he is saying. There is no differentiation between the petty factionalism of Sydney club rugby and the ARU's decision to scrap the Force. They were both driven by the same agenda - take money from WA to give more money to NSW club rugby (grassroots). Wedge politics at its worst. And as you argued many times the loss of the Force equals loss of potential player depth and player development. It seems to me the only argument you have for supporting the appalling decision to cut the Force is your staunch support of the ARU. However, I believe the decision was in fact driven by outside influences and went against the ARU's own strategic plans. So if you support the ARU you should not support cutting the Force as it wasn't really an ARU decision - it was a decision the ARU was pressured into making.

Go and check the reports if you want to back up your mate. They're publicly available on ASIC.

Anything said that you disagree with you just claim as a lie.

TWAS get your head out of it. He couldn't even tell a straight story about the ARU's financial reports and he is the Chairman and former NAB CEO.

Yeah extraordinary. Another Rugby governing body that has been neglecting its duties. On the topic of dodgy financial activity and poor governance it's good to see the Saffies are finally issuing out criminal charges. Watson got away with it for so long at the Kings and it drove fans away. http://www.sarugbymag.co.za/blog/details/cheeky-to-stand-trial-for-fraud Former EPRFU President Cheeky Watson (Luke's father). The 'people' running WP Rugby are in the cross-hairs too. Rugby folk have had pops at Soccer and Olympic corruption over the years. The boot is on the other foot now.

Schools in Australia don't care enough about helping the wallabies get strong unlike in NZ where the schools are committed to AB's dominance. So the ARU need to invest in junior clubs as the schools aren't motivated to, and most don't have the facilities or resources to help the wallabies and create a rugby factory culture. Elite junior club rugby is the future to wallaby gold, not the outdated closed shop GPS who don't see it as there role to create a rugby factory full of wallabies who can beat the all blacks..They don't care the GPS.. There competition structures are outdated, but they don't care about that either they don't see it as there problem to develop wallabies..

In defence of the poorly managed Sydney NRC teams, they did miss out on a lot of Waratahs Super Rugby players this season through a combination of injuries, departures and unlikely (some would say undeserved) test selection. The Eagles showed on the weekend it's a bit closer, when they narrowly beat the Spirit. It's no surprise that this was the best/strongest team they'd had all year for this game.

After watching the Sydney Stars, you could easily say that they are not up to NRC standard. Their scrummaging, offensive and defensive mauling was very poor. Sydney is headed for 2 NRC teams and the blame must lie in Sydney and the Waratahs, not the ARU, who are meant to be governing rugby for the whole of Australia, rather than just Sydney. Any potential borderline rugby player would be well advised to come to Canberra, where the Brumbies will give them professional coaching and all the opportunity. This appeared to be also true of the Force, but they have been blown up because Sydney rugby is failing. Melbourne Spirit maybe have been affected by the mess caused by the Super Rugby ado this year, but hopefully they will get their supporting players organised.

Yes TWOS, absolutely it all starts with winning consistency. That pretty much is never going happen with the current culture. The Wallabies greatest hurdle is crushing there loosing culture against quality opposition consistently. We have all seen this before and just in rugby. There comes a point where a winning mindset is no wear to found in a team (not individually) when they need to go to those dark places time after time to come out on top when acid is really on. It is no the ability of the available players its the winning at all costs. We all have selection issues with Cheika and Co, that in its self says there is talent here, so it can only be mindset.

Yes. If you don't like what he's saying he must be lying.

We seemed to be building a consistent team that performed to the level it should have though. Surely the first step to beating the All Blacks is being consistent enough to not drop games to France, Scotland, etc. every year. And the only bad loss (i.e. to an inferior opponent) during his tenure was Argentina, in Argentina.

Yep, no doubt Cheika's record is propped up by some soft games. Just tired of people pining for the good ole' days, when they weren't even that good, and claiming that getting McKenzie back will be like the second coming of Macqueen!

And from the west! thanks for your support Sydney, you have been controlling Australian rugby for around a 130 years and I think it would be an exaggeration for you to say you may have 1% population involvement, all I can see is a sad little shute shield comp and empty coffers. We will always remember how you supported our rugby here. May I suggest you rollover with dignity and hand the little you have left to league, AFL and soccer.

Less so against teams outside the Top 3 though. Remember that of McKenzie's 22 tests, 6 were against the All Blacks and only none against a non-6N or RC team. And then only 1 each against the (traditionally) weaker Scotland and Italy. Cheika for example has coached 39 tests now I think, with 9 against the All Blacks, but 1 each against Uruguary and USA, 2 against Fiji, 3 against Scotland and another 1 against Italy.

I did, Bakkies. Quite incredible, but entirely unsurprising. This part nearly made me spray coffee over my keyboard: "With the exclusion of the powers specifically conferred upon the ARU, State Members should otherwise have the autonomy and independence to determine the allocation of funds to districts, clubs, community endeavours and grass roots development within their respective jurisdictions. State Members are also best placed to determine their own governance models to suit their individual needs (however could be required to submit standardised strategic plans and key performance indicators to the ARU to continuously measure efficiency)." I didn't realise NSW had lost this ability! Link: http://www.aph.gov.au/Parliamentary_Business/Committees/Senate/Community_Affairs/Futureofrugbyunion/Submissions

We had McKenzie, and were still losing. Sooooooooo....

I don't want to see the ARU doling out cash to clubs that aren't even affiliates of theirs, that should be the NSWRU's job, but all the Shute Shield teams do run their own junior feeder comps, so they do play an important role in their community.