I'm done trying to understand VAR, says Aloisi

Waz - "In his press conference he talked about being wasteful in front of goal and shoddy at the back" That is a pretty all round,condemnation on the team performance ,and poses the question,"who put that team out there?" This is a question that has puzzled me since JA took over this team. His on camera performances both pre,and post game are top class,if somewhat mostly missing the point posed by the questioner. JA has yet to find the answers to the questions being posed by fans,after nearly 3 seasons,why is the team still "wasteful in front of goal and shoddy at the back?" After all, in this latest game , 8 of the players used were signings made by JA and his staff, Popadopolous, Pepper, Holman,Kristensen, Maccarone,Bautheac, Khalfalla and Franjic. with at least 2 of them well paid "marquee" players. So I return to the "new" question. When a team is "wasteful in front of goal and shoddy at the back" who is to blame,are the players just not good enough or does the answer lie much deeper.??? jb.

Again, it is not excusable that with video replay, the VARs (video assisted referees) keep making mistakes. It is actually not acceptable. It is worse than without VAR. When there was no VAR, referees make mistake randomly, just human errors. However, with VAR, it is worse. VAR is not meant to make refereeing worse. It means to make better. How can someone seeing the replay but still cannot make good judgement. Last time was Corey Gameiro. This time is a suspicious penalty in the match against Melbourne City. After more than half a season, the ruling seems to be biased against Brisbane Roar. A natural thinking is that the referees hate the coach keeping on to say that the VAR and linesmen are bad. It is not the "video replay" has problem. It is the poor quality of the referees in Australia. When there was no VAR, some people had started to stop criticizing the referees (last season), knowing just errors and no biases. However, since this season, VAR exposes more the poor quality of referees in Australia.

"I’m trying to understand why players and coaches are not held accountable for game-changing errors that happen with far higher regularity than any error made by match-officials." Brisbane Roar fans have been criticizing the coaches this season. Why when the referees make mistakes people should change the focus to some people else. Bad referees, bad players and bad coaches are all different things.

Waz - Exactly,and doesn't it show from the top to the bottom. Cheers jb.

JA was at Heart and we showed him the door. At the time of his appointment at Roar I wished you guys well. Good luck.

Any replay link for that controversial penalty?

I am actually in that boat - hoping Brisbane lose now every week, because to have Aloisi next year will be nothing short of an utter calamity.

And to add to that jb, which is damning for the coaching team, is faced with this situation and a midfield lost, Roar didn’t attempt to rectify the situation and seemed content with the situation. It’s a long standing critisism of young Australian coaches nowadays that they coach to a game plan but can’t adapt it in real time to events unfolding in the game.

“Don’t change coaches ever year” lol, that doesn’t apply - he’s been here three years now ?

Vince - John's problem with the VAR is only a minor setback in his everyday job,which is to put a winning team on the field. Yesterday ,Melbourne were without their season leading goal scorer and didn't that show when their line up was announced as a 3-4-3 setting, a usual give-away to a team's intention to play a defensive structure, and depend on breakaways for goals. And so it proved with Roar totally outnumbered in midfield where we had an out of form Mackay,backed by a seriously underdone Kristensen and supposedly aided and abetted by Holman, who in his normal game tends to chase the ball wherever it takes him. And all the time we had 2 international class players sitting on the bench that could have been at the very least introduced into the game much earlier ,if not thought to be needed at the start. Add to that fact of life with Maccarone forced to make at least 2 goal line clearances and one starts to wonder ,just who is playing where in this team,or better still what is expected of them. Roar's best "attacking" player on show last night was centre back Papadopolous and doesn't that say something about this team's make- up.?Cheers jb.

Hold on a second. You’re in agreement with what Aloisi has said. In his press conference he talked about being wasteful in front of goal and shoddy at the back. Its just that this article relates to the first question he was asked in the press conference. How the ref didn’t award the penalty is a mystery but they can be unsighted and unsure. How the VAR didn’t award this penalty is quite frankly an embarrassment to football - it’s no wonder people are questioning the VAR

yep, I think Roar supporters agree your first point. No excuses has been their typical reaction, on here and everywhere. But I'm surprised with your second point Nemesis. Not meaning to be nasty in any way, but I do read it as a little bit of nonsense.

Hold on a second. Brisbane did get a penalty & they stuffed it up. I'm trying to understand why players and coaches are not held accountable for game-changing errors that happen with far higher regularity than any error made by match-officials.

Read yesterday that he sought mentoring from Wayne Bennett, highly successful rugby league, Broncos coach. An outcome in the report I read was the importance of stability in your coaching staff - don't change coaches every year. And then our local Fox sideline reporter tweets that one of the players (who has extensive experience in an overseas league) said that he's the best coach he's ever played under, then that's good enough for him. It seems the best result for us may be to lose, every game, otherwise we might be up against it and stuck with our current coach for a few years yet.

yes, obviously. and the related rules and procedures of course

Agree, Waz, keeping him on would be a huge gamble, and a very unwise one too. We're seen him at Heart, we've seen him at Brisbane with "his" squad. Only a fool would put money on him succeeding next season, given his track record. Honestly, I don't think the club can afford that bet. Another season like this, and I'm not sure what would be left of the club by the end of it. We would certainly be looking at an all time low attendance average. It would take years to recover. And to think that, according to reports, the Bakries twice turned down 10 million for the club. If they hold with JA for next season, they would most likely be left with a stranded asset worth almost nothing.

The VAR is actually a living, breathing ref. It was he who couldn't see a blatant penalty in slow motion. I suspect the VAR is only as good as the person using it...

“Deserve” is a funny word in football. If that Penslty was given its most likely 2-1, if Holman shows more composure one on one with the keeper it’s 2-1, if the ball pinging around in the box goes in its 2-1. Second half Roar faded but if either TK or Young had been decisive it’s 1-1, and Maccarone’s worst pen should have made it 2-2. But they weren’t good enough so agree, they didn’t deserve it but that was the best game they’ve played for awhile. Nothing can save the season now, JA had hoped for a run of games to get him mid table and push the finals but it’s increasingly unlikely they’ll make it and less likely they’ll win even one game. Should he stay? If he doesn’t make finals his position is untenable - and even if he does, what a gamble on next season it will be if he stays in post.

I'm done trying to understand how Aloisi is still an A League coach. VAR is the least of my worries as a Brisbane supporter. Brisbane should have had a point from the game, but they sure as hell didn't deserve one.

It was an obvious penalty in real time, let alone on replay. That ref is a dud, and so too the VAR. But that said, Roar had ample opportunity to win or at least draw. No excuses.