Where to now for the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles?

By Mary Konstantopoulos / Expert

Hands up if you hate the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles?

If I know rugby league fans, there are plenty of hands in the air right now. But that shouldn’t bother us too much, because apparently ‘Manly hates [us] too’.

My hand isn’t in the air. I know it’s blasphemy, but I have never hated Manly the way other footy fans have. Perhaps I’m too young to appreciate the feuds of the past or perhaps I find it hard to hate a team that includes the likes of Akuila Uate and Marty Taupau.

But it’s clear that in 2018 the Sea Eagles are in a lot of trouble both on and off the field.

And it just keeps going from bad to worse, with it confirmed over the weekend that Lachlan Croker did his ACL for the third time in the loss to the Knights on Friday night and will not return this season. He joins a growing injury ward that already includes Brad Parker, Jorge Taufua, Jake Gosiewski, Curtis Sironen and Kelepi Tanginoa.

Truth be told, I am unsurprised about Manly’s misfortunes on the field, particularly given the off-field circumstances surrounding the club right now.

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A fish rots from its head, and given the salary cap scandal that has come to the fore this year, it’s fair to say Manly’s head has a lot of work to do to clean up the festering rot which has engulfed the club over the last few years.

In this sense they are fortunate to have Lyall Gorman at the helm, a CEO who is known for his ability to clean up messes.

The Manly salary cap saga has been treated differently in the media to the scandals which involved the Canterbury Bulldogs, Melbourne Storm and Parramatta Eels. But don’t let the fact that Manly didn’t lose any competition points fool you; the charges were just as serious.

The Sea Eagles were fined $750,000, had two past and present officials were banned and were also handed a $330,000 penalty to their 2018 and 2019 cup because the club was discovered to have promised players $1.5 million in additional undisclosed payments over the past five years.

Potentially that penalty on this year and next year’s cap is more damaging than any penalty handed out in the past for other salary cap breaches because it means that after the sanctions were announced, the Sea Eagles were not able to start fresh. The club will be impacted by these sanctions this year as they look to sign new talent, and then potentially next year too.

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The reason the Sea Eagles did not lose competition points is that they are apparently under the cap this year. But the penalties imposed on this year and next year’s caps have left the Sea Eagles in a lot of trouble, particularly after the number of injuries they have had this season – and the season is still young.

The cold, hard reality for Trent Barrett is that on Tuesday he needs to select 21 players. He has only 21 players left to pick from.

And the big question is: will Barrett select Jackson Hastings, who was recently been banished to play for the Blacktown Workers in the InTrust Super Premiership, in part for his involvement in an incident with Daly Cherry-Evans in Gladstone a couple of weeks ago?

This situation intrigues me. There are, by all accounts, plenty of challenging characters in rugby league. I understand that. The reality is that not everyone in a team is going to get along with everyone else.

But how can it be that Hastings is the most challenging of all the challenging characters? I don’t know Hastings, but I’m struggling to understand how he can be deemed such a problem, particularly after several Manly players have come out and said that they would be happy to play with him.

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Something doesn’t add up here, particularly when Hastings was banished while Cherry-Evans continues to play first grade after copping a fine for the role he played at Gladstone.

Hastings, of course, was said on Sunday to now be available for selection again, Gorman saying publicly that he would be included in the club’s squad to play the Roosters this week.

This would potentially be an embarrassing backflip for Barrett after telling the media that he had no intention of including Hastings in his first-grade squad for the rest of the year.

The loss to the Knights was the Sea Eagles’ sixth in eight rounds, and it doesn’t get much easier from here, with their next game against the desperate Roosters next Sunday.

We can describe their performances as brave, but that won’t be enough to get their season back on track. What worries me the most is that there is a financial penalty also imposed on next year’s cap, so I query whether 2019 will also be just as difficult for the club, particularly when they look to sign new talent.

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One final comment: there’s this idea in rugby league that for the game and clubs to be successful you need ‘rugby league’ people in positions of power. Apparently ‘rugby league’ people are mostly thought of as people who have played the game.

We need to be very careful with this line of thinking.

The reality is that there is a place in footy for everyone, but you need to find your place, whether it be as a player, a board member, an administrator, a fan, a cheerleader or a member.

Ex-footy players will not always be the most appropriate people to have involved in positions of power at our clubs, and I would argue that this has in part contributed to the strife Manly find themselves in now and indeed the strife that Parramatta also found themselves in a few years ago.

Our clubs are multimillion-dollar businesses and this needs to be remembered when we are making decisions about them.

As for the poor Sea Eagles, I know it’s trendy as a footy fan to dislike the Silvertails, but spare a thought for their fans, who are looking down the barrel of a very difficult 2018 – and it’s only the end of Round 8.

The Crowd Says:

2018-05-02T02:05:05+00:00

Adam

Guest


Wasn't he assistant coach in the Panthers lower grades? NSW Cup, or Holden Cup? He has experience coaching, Manly are just duds. Dragons happy to let Joel Thompson go, who was ok, but nothing special and look how Saints are firing

2018-05-01T21:43:20+00:00

bear54


To be fair, peninsular folk have always been hesitant to travel beyond the great wall that is the Pacific Highway or in to the city for anything less than life threatening. I have mates here who will dream up excuses to avoid going to Ryde for work. The resentment of Kingsford-Smith for being so far away for an international flight is palpable.

2018-05-01T09:15:56+00:00

Stifman

Guest


Funnily enuf even since Penn took over it’s gone from bad to worse. Coincidence? Sorry, There are no such things in life. Eagles will get the spoon, Barrett will go, time to reset ownership and management. The beginning of the end it seems for the Penns.

2018-04-30T21:24:00+00:00

Noel

Guest


He broke Greg's jaw. He did it on purpose. He's dead to me.

2018-04-30T13:03:00+00:00

madrid john

Guest


I'm with you Mary, I try to hate Manly from here in Brisbane. But with the Beaver, Ian Roberts, the little bleeder and now the Troy brothers, Green and Marty Taupau, I'm only faking it. Deep down, they,re in my top 3 Sydney teams. (Full disclosure, Tiger fan since the 80s.)

2018-04-30T11:58:04+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


They both lost their mojo at the Dogs despite having everything in their favor.

2018-04-30T11:55:10+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


The Sharks put 70 on us under Hasler and 5 or 6 of that team hung around to put 40 on the Storm in a record GF win in 08. We have plenty of good young talent and the future looks bright if we can right the ship.

2018-04-30T11:33:33+00:00

Tom

Guest


And remember - Crusher Cleal was doing the recruitment at Manly, not Des.

2018-04-30T11:07:53+00:00

Malo

Guest


Manly are my second team but they are gone , I thought they would make top 6 but their season is gone due to off the field stuff. Too late to tighten your defence as their attitude is not like the Tigers. Try a bit of team work

2018-04-30T10:58:56+00:00

Peter Phelps

Guest


Manly currently have the second lowest number of members in the entire NRL. Only the Titans are lower.

2018-04-30T10:54:54+00:00

Peter Phelps

Guest


As long as they are replaced by a new club in somewhere like Perth then it would be worth it. You have to doubt the viability of any club who's fans "won't cross the bridge" while others are flying in from Townsville, Melbourne and NZ. If that describes the passion of Manly fans then those fans might be better off watching soccor or union.

2018-04-30T10:24:09+00:00

Chris Love

Guest


where is it written that DCE started the fight? Where is this coming from?

2018-04-30T09:21:09+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Agree Nambawan, I think Manly have the core of a great young team that could potentially be together for many years to come. Their Top 17 only has 5 players over the age of 25 (DCE, Taupau, Taufua, Thompson, Uate) - Uate the eldest at 30. Most of the young brigade are already locked up, with some talent still developing in the u20s and NSW Cup. Whilst they may need to bolster their ranks a little, I don’t think things are as dire as some are saying. Certainly 2018 will be tough with the injuries at present and only 21 players available. But as a fan I’m hoping this adversity galvanises them for the years ahead. For me it still feels very similar to 2005/6. A great crop coming through that could be anything. But consistency killing them. The players are there, they just need to tough it out.

2018-04-30T09:02:40+00:00

Nambawan

Guest


Re the alleged salary cap rorting - Manly dispute the preliminary findings and are appealing. Therefore that issue remains undecided. Re the current situation - Manly only needs to win a couple of games and all the hysterics will suddenly disappear - remember the hysterics about Parramattajust a couple of weeks ago?? The current injury situation will recover, also the team list, its just the normal highs and lows of an NRL club exacerbated by a ravenous Sydney media (which btw is regarded with contempt by most football people). Again btw Manly is is in the Harold Mathews grand final.The club also won the under 20s comp last year. There is plenty of up and coming talent on the books.

2018-04-30T08:47:43+00:00

eagleJack

Roar Guru


Since when has playing ability had any impact or relevance to coaching ability? If anything I’d argue that average players (Bellamy, Robinson, Maguire as recent premiership winners) make better coaches. Yet you are trying to imply that because Barrett was “average” then that is why he isn’t killing it as a coach. Perhaps he more accurately falls into the Fittler/Daley/Meninga mould. Top shelf players who struggle with the rigours of weekly coaching in the NRL.

2018-04-30T08:46:55+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


11 Origins, 13 Test matches and a Dally M POTY. Geez, if that's average then about 90% of players during his career were below average.

2018-04-30T08:22:01+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


Strong opinions on the ability of coaches are nothing new but they rarely have any great insight. Paul Green was rated as one of the best coaches around with a stellar roster which many had as favorites for this years title. Is he now a dud and two of last years 'duds' Macgregor and Hook on the list of those 'who can coach' ? The romance about Haslers ability to wave the magic wand at Manly ignores any sort of reality. Hasler was shown the door at the Dogs because he put together a roster of his choice and led them into a dark cave. At Manly he led Manly to some heavy defeats in his early years and then to a golden era with a fantastic roster. He may come back and do well but it is fiction to imagine it is a sure thing. If Hasler started coaching when Peter Sharp did he would have been shown the door as well , his timing was perfect.

2018-04-30T08:06:06+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


The Pennies are decimated with injuries and have lost their SOO standard half back as well as other key players yet are playing well. Manly still have a top eight roster as we speak and our position on the table isn't about injuries but they won't help us get out of the swamp.

2018-04-30T07:10:49+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Trouble is wealthy men don't remain wealthy when they invest in rugby league teams. Why would you.

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2018-04-30T06:23:35+00:00

Mary Konstantopoulos

Expert


The Sea Eagles smashed the Eels in Round 2.... they were looking good at that point. Please don't make me say anything further about this game.

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