Dear selectors, please free us from the Marsh brothers

By Stephen Vagg / Roar Guru

I know your job is hard. Harder than we realise.

I can’t be easy having thousands (if not millions) of people thinking they could do your job better than you.

The headaches must be overwhelming. Competing agendas, team politics, pitch conditions, the wishes of the captain and coach, personal conflicts, what you see with your own eyes vs what the stats tell you, what stats to listen to and what to ignore.

You get mocked for your prejudices, but like all of us you’re creatures of your environment and upbringing – it’s not your fault.

You have a job where it is impossible to make everyone happy.

I understand.

But I do have to ask you one thing.

Beg, rather.

Desperately, from the heart…

Please, please, please give up on the Marsh brothers.

Mitchell Marsh and Shaun Marsh (Photo by Lee Warren/Gallo Images/Getty Images)

Look I get the attraction, I do.

Who doesn’t like the idea of a pair of brothers in the side? It conjures up such good memories: Ian, Greg, and Trevor Chappell. Steve and Mark Waugh. Michael and David Hussey.

And who doesn’t love the idea of multi-generational dynasty? Vic Richardson and his grandsons. John Inverarity and his dad. Rod and Dan Marsh. Ian and Alyssa Healy. The Darlings, the Gregorys, the Bannermans, etc.

They seem like nice men. Polite, enthusiastic, good team men. You hear nothing but good things.

They’re handsome too. Square jaws, good physiques, nice hair. Astronaut good looks.

And talented. Everyone can see the wonderful things both can do with the bat, and Mitchell can do with the ball.

But can we please stop picking them in the Test team?

It’s gone beyond a joke, truly.

Shaun’s a glorious strokemaker who has played some wonderful innings for Australia. He’s also extremely erratic and unreliable. If he gets over ten, he’s set. The trouble is he often doesn’t get to ten. He’s been remarkably consistent in his inconsistency.

He’s gotten chance after chance. Brad Hodge was omitted for the 2008 India tour in favour of Shaun Marsh. That’s how long he’s been around.

He’s 35 now and people are still describing him as promising. He’s come through for Australia a number of times but he’s also failed an awful lot too.

In fairness Shaun’s form has, at times, legitimately demanded his inclusion.

Mitchell is different. Mitchell has mostly been selected the basis of promise and the fact he can bowl.

Even when he’s been in good form, there’s usually someone in better form they could pick (eg last Ashes it was Glenn Maxwell), but Mitchell always seems to promise more.

He made his Test debut in 2014 replacing Shane Watson, despite the fact his first class batting average was only 28. Michael Clarke talked him up as a potential Test captain even before that Test.

In the next 21 tests Mitchell Marsh played a useful role in one Australian victory – the Adelaide Test match against New Zealand, where he scored a few runs and took a few wickets.

But he managed to hang on to his spot (or regain his spot) due to a combination of things: He had an incredible knack of scoring centuries in tour games before a first Test.

If he took just one or two wickets in an innings it would be a crucial partnership breaker. His bowling was thought invaluable if Australia played two spinners because apparently the thought of only two pace options was terrifying.

If he failed with the bat, Australia often scored so many that it didn’t matter, or collapsed in a heap, so he seemed the same quality as everyone else. He was a nice guy so journalists went easy on him.

He was replaced by players who couldn’t bowl well enough even if they were meant to be batsmen (Hilton Cartwright) or had a weird technique that Channel Nine commentators didn’t like (Pete Handscomb) or just weren’t up to it (Nic Maddinson).

Mitch Marsh: Vice-captain courageous. (AP Photo/Themba Hadebe)

In 2017 Marsh was recalled to the side during the Ashes and enjoyed a hot streak of four tests in a row where he contributed immensely with the bat, scoring two centuries and a 94, helping win three games and save the other one. His time had come!

He then failed for three Tests in a row in South Africa, but that was ignored in the aftermath of sandpapergate. Indeed, such was the leadership vacuum of this time that people were talking he might become Australian captain – and he was made vice captain.

Now he’s failed two more times. In four years his first class average with the bat has risen to 31. 31. His bowling is far less effective.

How much more time do we have to devote to these two? It’s been years.

Can we stop it?

I don’t mean to be cruel, but isn’t it cruel to other players that these two have received such blatant favouritism for so little reward?

The Marshes aren’t essential. Their underperformance played key roles in our defeats in 2015 in England, 2016 in Sri Lanka, 2016-17 vs South Africa at home, 2017 in India, 2018 in South Africa and now 2018 in the UAE.

And there are other options, all of whom would love a quarter of the chances given to the Marshes.

You want old time-y experience? We’ve still got Cameron White, George Bailey, Cameron Ferguson.

You want recent experience we’ve got Matt Renshaw, Pete Handscomb and Joe Burns.

You want someone who can bowl a bit we have Marcus Stoinis, Travis Head Glenn Maxwell, and Marnus Labuschagne.

We don’t need their lineage.

We need to start giving other people a go.

If Justin Langer loves them so much then by all means keep them in the one day team.

But please, please, kick them out of the test team.

It’s just too painful otherwise.

The Crowd Says:

2018-12-08T22:07:03+00:00

Trent

Guest


"And this may come as a surprise to the public but while performance is number one, not far behind it is your personality,'' Johnson wrote on Fox Sports. ''And both the Marsh boys are decent, funny fellas." WHO CARES!!!!!!!! Start selecting based on talent, and forget about their stand up routine.

2018-10-29T01:32:06+00:00

Charlie

Roar Rookie


His average since October 2016 is 28.6 (600 runs, 22 innings, one not out). I don't think that's a "lot more" than 26. This is a period of time in which he scored his two (and only) test centuries. So on "recent form", he should not be picked in the test team.

2018-10-27T13:17:11+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


That how D'Arcy Short gets a game for Australia when he is not in WA's best 11. 256 on a postage stamp ground and a batsman's paradise and the computer picks you. Will you programme dropped catches as a credit for a bowler or do you drop Starc because Ussie turfed a sitter?

2018-10-27T13:12:49+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Do you want to try his average over the past 2 years? That's recent form. It's a lot more than 26.

2018-10-27T13:11:05+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Rogers was never going to displace Langer and Hayden (that's how long ago he started) and had equally no chance of displacing Watson and Katich. When they went, he played.

2018-10-27T13:09:16+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


They have just dropped him from the ODI squad and given the role to Carey...who is getting no runs.

2018-10-27T13:07:54+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


It's not hard to know.

2018-10-27T13:07:09+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


That was a nitwit nitpick. It made no sense.

2018-10-27T13:05:41+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Questioning JL's intellect? You might do well to read some of his published writing.

2018-10-27T13:03:53+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Maxy, Burns and Renshaw have failed an awful lot this season. A few centuries are what they need. No reason to disbelieve the selectors. Shaun got match practice in this Shield game. 80 and 98 (in 91 balls coming in at 2 for 5). Maxy and Mitch were the only 2 batsmen in the top 6 to get over 20 last night. There is no reason to challenge selectorial policy for batsmen yet. The selction of bowlers is strange.

2018-10-27T12:57:17+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


James is right and there is no contradiction. It is possible to score runs and be a good bloke. They are not exclusive of each other. It's good to see that SOK is out of the NSW side now.

2018-10-27T12:53:50+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


JL was tweeting the commentators at the WACA throughout this last Shield game. Of course they would follow it on line.

2018-10-27T12:51:38+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Those other innings, however are astounding and their enormity is emphasised by your figures. Those other innings have won games for Oz. That's why they keep picking him. You see, if you pick out 42% of his scores to grumble about, there remains 58% that are very, very impressive. How come you forgot to detail them?

2018-10-27T12:46:50+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Why does anyone need to 'be on good terms' with their father? He is an occasional assistant coach to Adam Voges. That's his only involvement. Do you know what nepotism is? Surely you don't mean that? You are dumb...always...but, really, anon?

2018-10-25T20:57:59+00:00

Bob

Guest


And they’re not even from NSW ...

2018-10-23T02:59:05+00:00

Tanmoy Kar

Guest


Well said, but who are going to replace them? You are not going to bring back Smith, Warner and Bancroft before the India Series.

2018-10-22T12:32:03+00:00

Neil

Guest


A lot of the Aussie bats "reverted to type" in SA. Mitch Marsh averaged 22 in South Africa. Just behind Hashim Amla (24.5) and Faf Du Plessis (25) and ahead of Khawaja on 20. Burns Handscombe and Renshaw played in the last test only but like everyone else struggled averaging 23, 12 and 6.5 respectively. The days of Australia dominating overseas when we had batsman of the caliber of Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Steve Waugh, Mark Waugh, Damien Martyn with batsman such as Lehmann and Brad Hodge nipping at their heels are long gone. Many of those guys are considered greats who performed in Australia and overseas. It's been 10 or 11 years since we fielded such a team. We've rarely won overseas since (eg. our last Ashes win in England was 2003 - 15 years ago!), particularly in Asia. We don't have that team right now. We're a team who is very competitive at home and who struggles away. And our batsman, on the whole, are the same - no matter who gets a guernsey. For all of you who are critical of Langer's emphasis on having good blokes wear the "baggy green", think about how he got the job in the first place. The Australian public as a whole - not just us "tragics" on the Roar - spoke up and demanded that the Australian team focus less on winning and more on representing the country in the right spirit. The Australian team ticked the second box in the UAE. And performed about as well as we have been performing overseas for some time now.

2018-10-22T04:45:38+00:00

JohnB

Roar Rookie


Without wanting to nitpick, either runs are the only currency or you need runs and to be a good bloke. Or it's the Monty Python Spanish Inquisition sketch!

2018-10-22T02:24:52+00:00

George

Guest


1. That constitutes the only consistent run of form Mitch has had in Test cricket. 2. It came when the side were leading 2-0 in a series against a mismatched and deflated side in Australian conditions. 3. He reverted to type in SA and now the UAE. 4. He averages 26 in Tests.

2018-10-22T02:22:12+00:00

George

Guest


Like Boof before him, JL's lack of intellect is partly why Gillespie should be the coach IMO.

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