How have Collingwood traded over the past decade?

By Chip / Roar Guru

In a Roar article a while back, I commented on the national drafting problems that Collingwood has had, notably in the period around 2013-2016.

In this piece, I look at the players that Collingwood has recruited from other AFL clubs and those that have left Collingwood to go to other clubs since 2012, the start of the Nathan Buckley era. This is regardless of whether they are still playing. It is principally trades and free agency that is the focus here.

I have constructed two teams, the in team and the out team, to give some perspective and sense as to how Collingwood has fared in player movement over the almost decade.

(Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

I have used the final destination for a player. For example, Dayne Beams left Collingwood, but ultimately returned so he is included as a Collingwood player. I have not included an interchange bench.

Further, the players who have left must have played at least one game for Collingwood. Hence, the likes of Nathan Freeman and Jon Ceglar have not been included as they were on the Collingwood list but did not play a game for the Pies before being traded.

In addition, the players must have played at least one game for their previous club to be considered for the in team. As such, Sam Murray has not been included.

Anyway, here are my teams.

In 
Backs: Jordan Russell, Lynden Dunn, Henry Schade
Half backs: Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughead, Jack Crisp
Centre: Chris Mayne, Dayne Beams, Travis Varcoe,
Half forwards: Patrick Karnezis, Jesse White, Clinton Young
Forwards: Will Hoskin-Elliott, Quinten Lynch, Daniel Wells
Rucks: Darcy Cameron, Taylor Adams, Levi Greenwood

Out
Backs: Marley Williams, Nathan Brown, Jonathon Marsh
Half backs: Heritier Lumumba, Lachlan Keefe, Heath Shaw
Centre: Tom Phillips, Dale Thomas, Paul Seedsman
Half forwards: Jaidyn Stephenson, Travis Cloke, Alex Fasolo
Forwards: Sharrod Wellingham, Chris Dawes, Ben Kennedy
Rucks: Jarrod Witts, Adam Treloar, James Aish

On paper at least, and on balance, I would suggest that other clubs have fared better in their dealings with Collingwood than the reverse.

Certainly the names to have left the Pies are bigger. Of course, there are caveats.

A number of the ones that left Collingwood were past their prime, notably Travis Cloke, Chris Dawes and Dale Thomas, all premiership players.

There are a few in the departures that had a falling out with the Pies, including Heath Shaw and Heritier Lumumba.

(Photo by Ryan Pierse/Getty Images)

Interestingly, in both teams, only eight remain today, indicating generally significant attrition.

For the in team, as mentioned, eight remain and these players have given good service. The strongest performers – apart from Taylor Adams – are the half back line of Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughhead and Jack Crisp, the latter having given service well above the ‘steak knife’ moniker.

What is glaringly obvious, though, is that the key position players in the out team are stronger than in the in team. The absence of strong recruiting by Collingwood in key position players, most notably forwards, is an indictment on the club.

A number of the ins only made fleeting impact for Collingwood, either because of injury, age, wrong fit, or simply not being consistently at the required level. The Moneyball deals have not really delivered the goods.

What is also instructive is that Collingwood has made little to no deals with the power clubs of Richmond, Geelong, West Coast, or Port Adelaide.

It seems that Collingwood is not a destination club for those who have left other teams.

Collingwood has rather tended to make deals with lesser clubs including North Melbourne and Melbourne (before this year).

A number of arrangements have been made with Greater Western Sydney. However, this is the case for a number of other teams as well, and is in measure related to the Giants’ player dump because of salary cap concerns.

In short, Collingwood’s performance this year reflects both drafting failures and lack of good trading of existing players.

The freeing up of salary cap to chase a big fish – assuming that big fish wish to come to Collingwood – and the hoped-for blossoming of the 2020 draftee crop would appear to be the way forward.

However, there are many ifs and buts.

The Crowd Says:

2021-05-21T01:48:55+00:00

Chanon

Roar Rookie


Matt Rendell would be the perfect person to ask!

2021-05-20T11:03:40+00:00

Footyguy

Guest


Lynden dunn was good SHORT TERM It was heartwarming to see a player drafted from so long ago that hadnt experienced success to be in a succesful team in 2018

2021-05-20T11:02:41+00:00

Footyguy

Guest


Another thing thats gone under the radar is collingwood's poor handling of sam murray He should have been handed a contract for 2020, only 23 and his form warranted it and was more of a loss than we thought he'd be , hopefully he can be picked up in the midseason by someone

2021-05-19T10:59:28+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


I think the pies trading habits border on arrogance. They assumed they were a lot closer to contending than they actually were and have failed to make the splash in the competition that they needed to. I’d say Witts is a better tap ruckman, and he would’ve been better culturally for the pies than Grundy who’s a better all around footballer. The Mayne and wells traded make absolutely no sense on top of the sheer debacle that was the beams trade, two first round picks for a player clearly over the hill, I wish Beams all the best but that’s the height of malpractice from the Collingwood management, while they may have had the occasional win with players like Jeremy Howe, Jordan Roughead and even Lynden Dunn it is largely a litany of failures from the Collingwood Magpies

2021-05-19T07:18:11+00:00

clear as mud

Guest


Richmond missing on Treloar but winning on Lynch signalled the evolution for both clubs, and it's easy to argue (you just type) that Collingwood might have won in 2019 not Richmond if they had snagged Johnny Appleseed instead.

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2021-05-18T22:37:05+00:00

Chip

Roar Guru


Thanks Peter- yes Witts is interesting as you say. Before his injury he was going very well at the Suns including the captaincy

2021-05-18T20:34:44+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Nice work Chip. Key position outs such as Lachie Keefe, Nathan Brown and Dawesy don’t really worry me and as you say Cloke was past his best. Witts is the interesting one as was a tad ahead of Grundy at the start and then Grundy went past him and became a top ten player in the competition for a short period before nabbing a big contract just pre-Covid. Would we prefer Witts now at say $650K and still have Adam Treloar or Grundy at $950k and not have him is an interesting question to ponder.

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