The ‘clunk’ of another All Black piece falling into place under coach Foster

By Highlander / Roar Guru

Every Test match this year, Ian Foster and his panel have answered another question with regard to personnel or systems – and this week it was all about depth.

Last year when they made ten changes for the Brisbane game, we saw a side looking lost for combinations and direction. For this very second XV against Argentina we saw a side that knew exactly how they needed to play, even if a little patchy and impatient in their execution on occasion.

At the very start of this season I wrote a piece on my concerns that Coach Foster was taking his continuity appointment a little too far with a rehash of the Steve Hansen era. However, week by week we have seen him nail down starters, pick more platform players, show confidence in the back-ups, but most importantly, play a game that is both pragmatic and exciting in equal measure.

He does however have perhaps one leftover Hansen strategy that didn’t work before, and isn’t working now, still in the plans – this I will address at the end of this piece.

Those who have read my contributions this year will recall a focus on platform players, those that provide the base for others (and themselves) to play off. Coach Hansen’s biggest error in that semi-final was sidelining the platform players in Sam Cane, Ryan Crotty and Ben Smith, leaving them dependent on individual brilliance to break down an England side which was far too disciplined to be exposed by that.

Foster and Co are demonstrably rebuilding this side from the ground up.

Ian Foster and Steve Hansen. (Photo by Hannah Peters/Getty Images)

Perhaps the only selection combination not in doubt at the start of the year was the Aaron Smith/Richie Mo’unga axis which has been at the very heart of New Zealand’s attacking game, with Beauden Barrett since proving that he still has it at this level when asked. Barrett and Mo’unga are likely to get one game each against the World Champs and comparisons will then have a little more validity.

Unlike many at seasons start, I had few concerns on the front row, the return of Joe Moody was critical, add in Codie Taylor and Nepo Laulala and that’s an excellent starting front row. Bench of Karl Tu’inukuafe, Samisoni Taukei’aho with either Ofa Tu’ungafasi or Angus Ta’avao won’t get bettered by many either.

Tu’ungafasi quietly gave Argentina all sorts at scrum time when he came last Saturday.

The big difference this year is the production and impact of the front row. Visibly better impact at tackle, carry and in particular, offensive ruck time. Good outcomes from Greg Feek, John Plumtree and Scott MacLeod.

The quality of the locks was always going to be about whether the senior players could get back to the required performance levels, Brodie Retallick has returned to his rampaging best after being cleverly eased back into the big time, Sam Whitelock continues to defy Father Time but most importantly Scott Barrett has been playing out of his skin on the ground and has become a serious presence at ruck time. Big tick.

Loose forwards balance issue remains an issue and is the one remaining Hansen hangover, but this now looks to be a straight coaching style choice so I will return to this.

The midfield looked a real issue at seasons start; then enter David Havili.

Above all else Havili is a clever footballer, he is not going to push things that aren’t on, happy to take the tackle and reset when required, and for a guy new to the side, he has looked to the manor born. Confident spending time in the first receiver spot, he needs only one more try to equal the record of seven in a season for a centre currently held by Ma’a Nonu.

Outside him Anton Leinart-Brown fits well in combination, defending solidly, a great midfield turnover and clean out option and it is really starting to look like that shirt is his for the long run. Add in the outrageous promise of Quinn Tupaea with Reiko Ioane as a potential fill in and this year looks well covered for the centres.

Havili is one of those players who can both provide platform but still strongly contribute to the attacking framework in equal measure, one hell of a find so far.

The seemingly endless rotation in the back three has, at last, thrown up a number of lock ins for mine. Reiko Ioane is back to his lightening best and if Foster has convinced him that his primary role will be at left wing – that is a great outcome.

Jordie Barrett looks the business in the custodian shirt, safe under the high ball, empirically fewer turnovers than Damian McKenzie and he joins the backline in direct fashion. The fight for the right-wing position seems to be ongoing but Will Jordan must have his nose in front.

From having no real idea of the best back three, we now have three guys, all of size, two whom are lightening quick, two with booming boots and all three pretty safe under the high ball which is going to be important versus South Africa – this looks a great outcome to me.

And now to address the Royal Succession Issue – who will they select in the back three forwards.

The one remaining hangover from the latter Hansen era is the insistence of wedging a wide-ranging ball runner into the loose forward trio at the expense of the tighter traditional high volume and narrow channel impact player. The trade-off didn’t work with Liam Squire, didn’t work with Vaea Fafita, despite some seriously good highlights.

Remember these?

It’s not working now trying to include Ardie Savea and Akira Ioane in the same side.

Both Squire and Fafita struggled not only for consistency but also in establishing strong combinations with those around them, more individual contributors than team players for those that do the human resources exercise at the end of each business year, and so it seems the issue is repeating with the currently favoured loose trio selections.

But first the good news.

One of the major issues that the All Blacks needed to address on the retirement of Kieran Read was, how do you replace his workload?

(Photo by Chris Hyde/Getty Images)

It wasn’t only Read’s quality that needed replacing, it’s a simple mathematics game. We had a guy leaving who would make 15 tackles a game, have ten carries, hit rucks for fun, contribute to turnovers, all the while being our number one lineout target and stealer.

To maintain team performance at the same level someone needs to pick these up, or as we have done to date, that workload has been spread among others diluting overall impact.

Luke Jacobson looks like the purpose-built Number 8 this New Zealand side has been crying out for, great ball skills, work-load both sides of the ball, a good lineout options, tough as teak and a genuine breakdown presence.

His numbers for the first Argentina Test should be pinned to the dressing room wall as an example of what is required when playing in the back three.

12 tackles without a miss, nine passes, 14 runs for 64 metres with a couple of tries for good measure while bossing the breakdown and being a go to lineout option. He has also proven to be comfortably the best ball support runner of our loose forward options.

But here’s the rub, I believe the All Blacks will still look to select both Akira Ioane and Ardie Savea in the same side for the coming South Africa game despite the fact that this combination correlates directly to the ruck defence issues which have plagued the side, both been non-entities in the on the ground turnover stats and largely ineffective at the breakdown.

That’s a whole lot to trade off in the search for a wide running forward and dumps a load onto Dalton Papalii. The negative impact on the All Black ruck defence is inarguable.

For direct comparison, in the first Argentina match, when they had the ball Los Pumas went straight to the narrow channels looking for the same pay back as Australia had been getting but found the door slammed shut by Jacobson in conjunction with tackling machine Dalton Papalii.

The contrast in outcomes with a change in balance in the loose forwards is abundantly clear and is now a direct coaching choice.

(Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

If there was only one spot to fill who would you go with? Akira, who has that uncoachable ability to drift off a pass and get outside his man to devastating effect?

Ardie, who is all leg drive and power close to the line, but who for mine seems stuck between two game styles right now?

Or Ethan Blackadder who is good both sides of the ball, has a huge workload, massive breakdown effort but in among the noise can be inaccurate but has that ability, as we saw for one try on Saturday, to have five involvements in seven phases in the lead up with real positive outcomes.

It’s a nice problem to have, but only if you were selecting one of them.

Credit to Coach Foster and his coaching team for the way they have systematically stepped their way through the season to date, answered almost all the questions we as fans were asking at the outset while managing the workload of four back-to-back Tests with two more to come.

They have copped a whole lot of noise between them this year, and I for one am happy to get my hand up and say they have progressed this group of players and the gameplan, faster, and in a better direction than expected.

I would never want to face South Africa without Sam Cane, Sam Whitelock, Dane Coles, Aaron Smith and Richie Mo’unga, and I would still rather we didn’t have to, but I feel a whole lot better about it than I did a month ago.

The Crowd Says:

2021-10-04T10:39:07+00:00

Uriah Heep

Roar Rookie


Well I'm rather catholic in my music tastes but I do love that basic delta blues with acoustic guitar, voice and harmonica - Blues is truth ! On the other hand I like classical and folk as well - Jethro Tull is a big favourite of mine. I love the different musical traditions I came across when traveling (you know that mythical activity that used to happen). It seems harsh to discriminate but a small female voice-only group did a collection of sacred and secular songs in a monastery (carved out of living rock) in Armenia that was both beautiful and pristine - I never heard anything so extraordinary. In part it's the slight variation in resolving harmonies and the leaving of a slightly eastern thread in the sound. The music teacher was a very accomplished organist (he's still alive and no slouch even now) and ended up teaching my son at another school.

2021-10-01T22:53:28+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

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I think with UH it was actually the guitar sound of Mick Box and the admittedly slightly odd backing vocals. If I had to guess further I suspect that my father generally preferred music that stayed closer to blues (Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Hendrix, Cream), whereas I seemed to lean towards music with a nod more towards classical (Deep Purple, Uriah Heep), although I love blues. Neither of us really got much from the Beatles and his interests had a whole lot more influence on me than vice versa. Gypsy is a brilliant song, BTW. Sunrise is another of their longer songs that I always come back to, but I also like albums from the late 70's like Firefly and Fallen Angel. Since the 1980's they sound a bit like Foreigner with crunch, but you do what you do to make a living. Quite a 'leap of faith' for your music teacher to play that record!

2021-10-01T21:33:55+00:00

Uriah Heep

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A friend brought "Very 'Eavy, Very 'Umble" along to our music teacher and asked him to play it (this was a very conservative religious school btw). The teacher played Gypsy and that was the start. What was it that your dad didn't like about UH ? Was it the vocals? Now back to the rugby. I've wondered for a while if we're not seeing a genericisation of the loose forward positions (i.e. a regression from true specialisation) - at least agin certain sides. In which case Blackadder, Jacobson, and Papali'i are going to be important cogs. Cane and Savea as well (although they aren't quite as versatile). I'm not certain where that leaves the like of Ioane (A) and Sotutu - who've both been good domestically but variable at international level.

2021-10-01T03:45:53+00:00

Sinclair Whitbourne

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I seem to recall he was described as being 'positively galvanic', as well. I think the best BR combo depends on a different structural approach in the way the forwards play, but I would love to see Cane/Papali'i (depending on fitness of Cane), Blackadder and Jacobson. What an Abominog that would be! I love the Uriah Heep live double album from 1973 and far prefer it to Purple's Made In Japan. A band that was probably only a fraction off greatness, but still one of the great next rank down bands and like being 'only' a great provincial/Super player, I would love to be that 'only' at anything at all. My Dad was a Led Zeppelin man. He tolerated my love of Deep Purple and Blue Oyster Cult but really drew a line at Uriah Heep. Twas ever thus between generations. How did you get into Uriah Heep ?

2021-10-01T01:43:49+00:00

Uriah Heep

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My esteemed Mr Whitbourne, Greetings, felicitations, and thank you for your kind comments vis-a-vis the Uriah Heep tag. It is a quid each way choice – I too am (since youth) a liker of the band; my admiration of Dickens had to wait for several years. And your comment regarding the riches at loose forward are spot on – but what is the best combination? The jury seems to be still out. I remain your ‘umble servant – Uriah Heep. p.s. I’m nowhere near as humble as the literary UH effaces himself. p.p.s nor (I hope) as unctuous !

2021-09-22T23:57:10+00:00

Emery Ambrose

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Great article Highlander. I feel like this is what we would have seen last year with a regular test season, able to test things over the mid year tests and get the guys to learn and follow his plan (wether that is the same as Hansen’s or tweaked). It’s worked against regular opponents and new ones. He’s bringing it along nicely and as much as people say when there were losses last year, “he’s terrible” and now we are winning “it’s just players winning the game” I’m sorry, it doesn’t cut it for me. Seeing the team change so much and winning with different combos but keeping the overall plan for that game is awesome to see, the leaders back it, which flows to the players backing it, the composure from the 2nd XV was fantastic. I think JB needs to be at Fullback as he brings the direct option if they keep Havili and ALB in the centres. I’m for Akira, Papalii/Cane, Jacobson, I thought they fit best together, I can see Savea instead of Jacobson though. You can see now that Foster was confirmed before leaving and why, imagine been told “we need to see how you go over next 3 months, but you can’t have 4 of your top players.” Makes it all settled with that out of the way. He can keep up the same plan. The amount of anticipation for this game is overwhelming, even with the WBs losses the Boks will be challenging.

2021-09-22T23:04:17+00:00

Jacko

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I will disagree. No 10 test no 10 can possibably be as ready for a WC semi final than a 2 times POTY with 70 tests to his name. Its not like Mounga was coming in over a average player. Yes there were other selection mistakes but that was a big one.

2021-09-22T22:58:21+00:00

wigeye

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thats cool m8,the best I did was watch the tasman beat Auckland on a trip back for funeral I watched it live Trafalgar Park. I play few games on main ground when still school but sat rugby. My grandparents lived at 59 Trafalgar Rd the pawsons straight over the road from tomatoes glasshouses. Tom my grandfather and my 3 uncles all played for nelson seniors and pop was president or maybe secretary had all the team photos over the years throughout the house pop was a butcher and best home brewer. I used to pick tomatoes across the road b4 and after pratice at the delirenzos or sounds like. Hahaha yes memories m8

2021-09-22T22:47:45+00:00

wigeye

Guest


The old Moutere pub

2021-09-22T21:03:09+00:00

wigeye

Guest


Green meadows at the lights at stoke we played cricket out there alot . Catch ya madkiwi overnout

2021-09-22T12:17:55+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


8 I agree except Blackadder, I think that he deserves a start. He did not have a perfect game but he so much off the ball. He is a real talent and had performed well IMO, you are right also as I think that Ardie is falling behind the other hungrier players. Is switching to League still on his mind?

2021-09-22T12:07:50+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


I was brought up in Lower Moutere

2021-09-22T12:04:03+00:00

Tim J

Roar Rookie


Broad green! I played plenty of Cricket there , oh the memories :thumbup:

2021-09-22T11:55:29+00:00

Tim J

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Victory Square, Awesome mate! I played for the Stoke Rugby club, some great memories. I was invited into the Crusaders dressing room in Nelson after they beat Golden Cats from SA to make the finals. I saw Wayne Smith with his after talk, Andrew Mehrtens was the one to invite me there. Everyone poured beer over me, only one player was arrogant. Justin Marshal, he stood back and asked me why are you here? I responded why not you are in my town. I was asked to go with them to the after match drinks at Trafalgar Park, Marshal would not talk with me.

2021-09-22T09:50:06+00:00

Bill Shut

Roar Rookie


Its the nature of the injuries that Cane has had that is of concern. Spinal, concussion and pectoral tear. Every time he stays down after a collision, I am genuinely concerned for the man and his family. They are not niggly calf strains or hamstring tears that usually come right after some good rehab.

2021-09-22T09:34:30+00:00

Old Bugger

Roar Rookie


Certainly makes for a pretty good leadership group dunnit...??

2021-09-22T09:27:48+00:00

Old Bugger

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Jacko Hansen's error, which he admitted to in a recent interview, was benching his own tackle machine for lineout height. When he decided to insert his tackler, it was too late - his forward pack was back-pedalling at an extraordinary rate of knots that having a tackler, was a waste of time. RM's lack of test experience was secondary, to what was happening to the AB pack. I don't think BB would have made any difference either cos all the ball the ABs managed to secure, was done so, going backwards.

2021-09-22T09:16:04+00:00

Old Bugger

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DD It's not now that's the concern - it is 2 years time in 2023. If he was such a highly regarded candidate, why do you think, Fozzie went with Cane, last year?? My guess is Fozzie has a concern, if Sam W 2023 will be just as potent, as Sam W 2021. And don't forget, we're talking about engine room stuff. Oh and btw, it's not concussion that has injured Cane this year. In fact, his most serious injuries, have been neck and pectorals but in between those injuries, if I recall, he got a reduced test season, last year.

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2021-09-22T08:24:07+00:00

Highlander

Roar Guru


Wish I had an answer for you but no insights Maybe having 5 different captains in a single season is a good thing?

2021-09-22T08:21:41+00:00

Renzeau

Roar Rookie


Frizell can't forget him huge Super campaign. Hard choices with Loane and Blackadder in the mix.

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