Rugby News: Foster treatment borders on 'reckless', why Cheik 'started crying,' Brumbies go back to 2004

By The Roar / Editor

Ian Foster says he expects to be All Blacks coach when the team faces Argentina in their next Rugby Championship match despite being given no clear direction onf his future.

Foster was still in South Africa on Sunday when New Zealand Rugby boss Mark Robinson gave a media conference that annouced very little about the coaching situation – except that a review of Foster’s position would happen before the Pumas clashes.

Robinson declined the chance to back Foster for the rest of TRC at that news conference, and his wording sounded ominous at times – with suggestions nothing could be determined while the players and coaches were away from NZ.

The team has a week off before it will assemble in Christchurch on Sunday to prepare for their next Test against Argentina.

“I’m about to hop on a plane and go home and mow the lawns around the pool,” Foster told New Zealand media.

“I’ll be given feedback, no doubt, but my expectations are I’m the All Blacks head coach and later in the week I’ll be going to Christchurch and assembling with the team until I’m told anything different.”

New Zealand media had speculated Foster would be sacked and replaced by Crusaders coach Scott Robertson if the All Blacks had slumped to another defeat in Johannesburg.

Foster’s former assistant coaches John Plumtree and Brad Mooar were removed after the Ireland series defeat last month despite having re-signed through to the 2023 World Cup.

Robinson said NZR would review the South Africa tour and confirmed the governing body’s board would meet this week.

“We believe we know where we stand and just have to work through it,” Robinson said.

“There will be a board meeting at some stage … The board is ultimately responsible for the appointment of the coach. That’s to be determined in terms of timing.

“We’ll be making no further comment until that time which is likely to be the middle to latter part of this week.”

Foster appears to have the backing of his players, with reports that some of them had to be talked out of standing behind Foster at his post-match press conference.

After all the scrutiny on Foster in the NZ media, Robinson has now joined the coach in the glare, with many believing NZR is mishandling the situation.

“There is potentially a far more serious consequence to this continued failure to provide clarity to Foster about his future and to publicly endorse him as the man to take the All Blacks through to the World Cup or relieve him of his duties,” wrote Gregor Paul in the New Zealand Herald. “And that’s the impact to his mental health. To leave him in limbo is bordering on reckless now.

“He said after the game that the stress he’s under has led to weight loss and that through his eyes, the media’s commentary and analysis on his plight has been vicious.

“He’s under the sort of mental duress that is almost impossible to imagine and at least if he knew he had the backing of his employer, the certainty that he’s going to be in his job through to the World Cup, he could try to reach a truce – a working alliance at least – with the media core from whom he clearly feels estranged.

“That Foster deserves better from his employer is in danger of becoming white noise – and that can’t be a tenable proposition for a sport with such grand ambition.”

Coach Ian Foster looks on during a New Zealand All Blacks Training Session at Sky Stadium on July 26, 2022 in Wellington, New Zealand. (Photo by Hagen Hopkins/Getty Images)

Former All Black and prominent commentator Mils Muliaina was among those upset with the NZR approach.

“It’s the pressure of uncertainty once again,” he told NZ Radio network Newshub.

“Really, they should have been coming out and celebrating what was a tremendous performance from the All Blacks after what’s been a hard couple of weeks.”

Muliaina said Foster would be upbeat after beating the Boks at Ellis park.

“The performance they put out was tremendous and they thoroughly deserved the win, but again the unknown is there. He was asked again last night whether he thought, or knew, whether he was going to be the coach.

“It seems like he’s walking across egg shells. He had a review after the end of year tour, another review after the Irish Tests and here we are again two weeks later with another review.

“I guess that’s why he’s found some resolve around his players. He’s definitely got the backing there. But it would be nice if the NZR came out and were really strong about their position.”

Emotional win for Cheika

Michael Cheika says he felt mixed emotions watching Argentina dismantle the Wallabies in San Juan.

“I love these guys, they’re my crew now,” Cheika said.

“I was up on the last try, cheering. But then I started crying because I know I probably shouldn’t be doing this. It was a bit confusing for me, personally.

“But they’re my boys now. That’s my team. I will do everything I can to help them get success and enjoy rugby. They are paying me a lot of respect here and people are believing in the things that we are doing. I have to do everything I can to help them.”

Cheika’s next task should be easier for him to enjoy, two matches against the All Blacks in New Zealand.

“I love going to New Zealand to play. There is a thing about rugby over there that is special and there is nothing like being a part of it,” Cheika said.

“It is going to be good going to Australia and having a few days off, and seeing my mum and my brothers and sisters and take the boys for a Leb feed at my mum’s place. But I am looking forward to going to New Zealand because it is a great place to go and play rugby.”

Boks’ split decision

South Africa head coach Jacques Nienaber says going with a 6-2 split on the bench may have backfired for the Springboks in the loss to the All Blacks.

The Boks failed to overcome the early loss to concussion of wing Jesse Kriel in the opening minutes.

“We were over the try-line three times but we got zero points for that and rightly so,” said coach Jacques Nienaber.

“But we created the opportunities – just sometimes it goes for you and you score those tries. There were nice opportunities but sometimes it goes against you. The 6-2 bench split sometimes works for you and sometimes against you.

“I think since we have been back, we have coached 45 games and we’ve probably gone with a 6-2 split more than 30 times and it did bring us some positive results with a World Cup win and series victory over the British & Irish Lions, but saying that we know it is a risk if you get a backline injury and it’s just unfortunate.

“We weren’t as accurate as we were last week and they kept offloading, taking high risks which we didn’t contain that well,” said Nienaber.

“I thought we did well to come back; 15-0 down against the All Blacks is a tough ask to get back into the game, which we managed to do in the back end of the first half and up to 73 minutes. And then we slipped at the back end.”

The Springboks’ next match is against the Wallabies in Adelaide on August 27

ACT two for Brumbies

The ACT Brumbies will play in Super Rugby next season, carrying their foundation name for the first time since 2004.

The club has been struggling to fill GIO Stadium for games in recent seasons and is hoping a return to their original mission can help reconnect them with supporters.

ACT Brumbies Chairman, Matt Nobbs said ins statement: “It’s an exciting and proud day for the organisation and the club to officially re-introduce ourselves as the ACT Brumbies.

“Our commitment to our region will continue to grow, and we hope to confirm trial games outside of Canberra for 2023 shortly, but the Australian Capital Territory is and has always been our home and with this decision, we want to formally re-connect ourselves to our local community, so that they feel a sense of ownership and belonging to our club once again. “

Head coach Stephen Larkham added: “Speaking on behalf of the current group, and for past players who have proudly worn the ACT Brumbies jersey, this is a fantastic step by the organisation.”“The team under Dan have been playing some great rugby, and our job is to continue that on in 2023, but it’s also to genuinely engage with our community, so that they get that sense of pride in the team and the club.

“Generating support in the stands is obviously part of that, but it’s also about growing the game, giving kids a moment with a player which might inspire them to take up the game, or keep playing; that’s part of our purpose as a club and as head coach I’m excited to help drive that.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-17T03:06:11+00:00

Jacko

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Agree. I dont think he is either but it looks like the board has backed him so I will support the ABs and their coach too.

2022-08-17T03:05:10+00:00

Jacko

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Looks like Razor should have shut up eh Tim. Where is he going with McDonald and Holland?

2022-08-16T11:30:38+00:00

Nick

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Personally I don't think he's the right coach for the ABs & I want him sacked. That's my opinion. However I think we can all agree that you do it to his face & treat him with dignity. There's a right way to do things.

2022-08-16T05:20:25+00:00

Jacko

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Yet Im an Aussie and proud of it Tim. Im a duel citizen and proudly so and also happy to admit it.

2022-08-16T04:52:23+00:00

Tim J

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Razor has stated Ryan to stay on if he gets the gig along with bringing in McDonald and Holland.

2022-08-16T04:40:24+00:00

James in NZ

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It's weird in that this feels more about power politics than actually rugby. Well they already admitted they got it wrong re his assistants, so now they're gonna let him lift the assistant(s?) of the guy they rejected. Jason Ryan being credited with turning this Foster mess around, burns me a bit, it must burn others in Canterbury too. Then we were being cruel judging Foster a week ago, but its all Foster now. Sigh. I feels like any success the ABs get is in spite of Foster(forced selections), not because of him. One way or another this drama will be over soon hopefully.

2022-08-16T04:17:31+00:00

Tim J

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Totally correct James.. It feels like that NZRU will use Foster as the escape goat, if they sack him that would mean that in effect they admitted they got it wrong by appointing him. They will be banking on him to win both the Bledisloe and RC. If they lose both then it is easier for them to warrant his sacking…

2022-08-16T04:07:55+00:00

James in NZ

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I note Foster is getting a lot of online support from the lightweight “be nice” guys sympathizing for Foster because of this drawn out process. Never mind his past selection habits, clear biases and results. “This has been uncomfortable”+ “he’s a nice guy, so we should give him another chance to degrade the brand further”(also he’s discovered all of these magic resources in the SI all of a sudden). The media is now building a case that Ellis park+the senior players+this drawn out process+the Ted/Shag consortium=Foster should stay (never mind the 75% of fans). I caught a video byte where Foster is taking credit for developing the young AB props(who saved his rear) by not selecting them in June as some sort of masterstroke that’s now come to fruition (never mind those selections were forced). Foster always seems to put himself first in keeping this job. He’s actually demanding that we accept his ‘learnings’ and lacklustre results as our new standard so he can keep this coveted job that was promised to him. The fact he’s now going after the assistant coaches the NZRU rejected .ie. Razor’s (while again his selections apparently weren’t up to snuff…bit of a pattern). Reeks of the NZRU wearing Razor’s set up like a skin suit, keeping Foster out front as a face saving exercise that will lead to us losing our brightest up incoming IP, is beyond frustrating. I lot of old ego’s preferring to drive an organisation they inherited into the ground to prove a dumb point. Wiser heads than mine are saying the fact Robinson didn’t confirm Foster’s role ongoing means he’s probably gone already? Either way dragging this out is actually making the divide worst between the “be nice” loser camp and us ruthlessly efficient wanna-be’s.

2022-08-16T03:33:46+00:00

Tim J

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I agree Nick, if you base it on all results then it does not stack up well for Foster.

2022-08-16T03:21:00+00:00

Tim J

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Too true James.. :thumbup:

2022-08-16T03:16:05+00:00

Tim J

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Jacko certainly knows how to milk it Nick…

2022-08-16T03:14:47+00:00

Tim J

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Your arrogance is just amazing, you live in Queensland… Aussie jacko

2022-08-16T02:41:38+00:00

Jacko

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I think he will go Nick but maybe they want to do it to his face as the bagging they would get if they did it by phone or email etc would be horrendous

2022-08-16T02:28:55+00:00

Nick

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They've made a meal of this but he still needs to go

2022-08-16T02:27:52+00:00

Nick

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Are you BB's mum??

2022-08-16T01:44:39+00:00

ethan

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He got great results with both WBs and Tahs for a short period of time before fizzling out. He could be the right man at the right time for Argentina ahead of the world cup.

2022-08-16T00:37:57+00:00

James in NZ

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Pull the band aid off quickly, as they say.

2022-08-16T00:29:46+00:00

Puff

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Who would be a coach, the cat’s whiskers one minute and the dogs breakfast the next. Although the Wallaby performance was less than encouraging, regardless of the fact DR’s team was hampered by injury. Their commitment and execution was just above pitiful which make the SA match like climbing Mount Everest. Sadly the hypocrisy displayed by Mark Robinson in NZ and his disrespect towards Foster, when such conversation should be highlighted behind closed doors. Is a reflection that answers many questions about the NZ, CEO;s ability? Coupled with their crippling sarcastic media, rubbishing the AB’s including the coaching staff before & after the SA tour, offers and insight into the limited journalistic skill available at the NZ Herald.

2022-08-15T23:45:54+00:00

Markus

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Yeah really, 1kg weight loss? I could manage that within an hour of my first coffee in the morning.

2022-08-15T23:42:57+00:00

Markus

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I did, but that makes me part of a very small group. Even smaller again would be the group that knew and actually cared, likely a significant overlap with the "Brumbies are secretly being relocated to Melbourne!" group.

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