England’s rugby league failures are killing the international game

By EastsFootyFan / Roar Guru

If international rugby league were to issue US Presidential style ‘State of the Union’ addresses, one can only imagine that new Chairman Scott Carter would only be able to describe the state of things as parlous.

Its problems are well documented; an inconsistent international calendar, limited exposure for the game’s biggest brand – the Kangaroos – and a lack of resources, investment and long term planning in the IRFL.

Prior to State of Origin 1, The Roar featured an article by editor Mike Meehall Wood bemoaning this dreary state the international game finds itself in and arguing that Australia’s State of Origin series sat at the heart of its many troubles.

Mike’s core claim was that the prioritisation of Origin over Test footy is “a choice” and that the only reason people think “internationals aren’t worth it” is because they’ve been told that by media, sponsors etc.

As someone that has followed rugby league since I was a child in the 1980s, I am here to disabuse Mike and any others toting this line of this notion. The problems of international rugby league do have a common source, but that source is the decline of English rugby league.

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Indeed, England’s terminal decline happened in tandem with the emergence of State of Origin as the dominant representative level rivalry in psyche of Australian rugby league fans.

This has been no more of a “choice” than it has been a “choice” for so many fans to stop paying attention to the Bledisloe Cup – a series that once rivalled Origin for both ratings and attendances.

For those that are younger than 30, it is probably hard to imagine, but there was a time we did care more about International rugby league and the simple version is that it was when Australia wanted to beat the Great Britain Lions.

As a kid, I can tell you unequivocally what mattered more between Origin and test matches, and it was test matches by a fair margin. Back then, Australians could still remember the recent GB RLWC win in 1972 and also series wins on Australian soil by traveling Lions teams.

Indeed, although the tide had begun to turn in the Kangaroos favour, the history between the two sides up to that point remained a story of British dominance.

Long story short, we weren’t taking the Lions for granted, and that is reflected in just how often we were playing them in the 1980s.

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Indeed, despite Origin starting in 1980 and all the mythology around that now, the Kangaroos played seven Ashes Test series home and away between 1982 and 1994. The 1994 series would mark 11 straight victories for Australia over 21 years and it was really around that point that the care factor started to wane.

We went from rejoicing every time the Green and Gold’s taught the old enemy a lesson, to feeling like it was such a foregone conclusion that we almost felt bad for the poms.

The absolute nadir was when the Lions followed up a loss in 2001 to an underdone Kangaroos side (having cut their UK tour short following the 9/11 attacks) with a trip in 2002 to Australia in which they had 64 points piled on them by the hosts in front of an indifferent and only partially full crowd in Sydney.

This is why claims that “it is a choice” that Australian league fans care more about international league ring so hollow to many like myself. The truth of the matter is that Australians want to hate England in sport. England are our friends and family and as such make for the perfect sporting rival.

This is also why Origin works, but arguably it works more with England. We’re talking about a country with whom our sporting rivalry has at times been so bitter that it almost led to trade boycotts during the bodyline series in the Ashes.

The problem we have is that playing England/GB in Rugby League now resembles interstate Rugby League matches before Origin in that it remains familial, but more feels like you’re just watching the big brother belt the snot out of the little brother.

The only reason we continued to care into the late 80s was that Aussie were still telling ourselves that we were the little brother – and watching little brother belt big brother is interesting. But by the 90s we were coming to terms with the fact that we were big brother at that point.

This is also why Origin continued to work during Queensland’s dominant era; Origin is defined by Queensland’s sense of grievance and so their dominance isn’t a problem for the product. But whenever we’ve had runs of NSW dominance (hard to remember, I know), the claims came thick and fast that “Origin will die if Queensland stop being able to compete”.

I remember this well following the 2000 series in which NSW humiliated Queensland and then again in 2005 after NSW won threee series straight and it looked like Queensland would struggle to compete for years (until Bret Kimmorley changed history by throwing an intercept in 2006).

So now that we’ve debunked the idea that Origin is the cause of International Rugby League’s problems and that it is in fact the lack of any powerhouse international rival for the Kangaroos, the question becomes why has England been such a failure?

To my mind, the answer can be summed up in one word: London. Specifically, the failure of English rugby league to make any inroads in London of any substance.

This failure occurred in tandem with the growing preeminence of London as England’s core economic engine, the massive growth of the English Premier League and finally the professionalisation of English rugby union.

During this era, there have been many false starts for English league in London. To say the London Broncos have have had a troubled history is being extremely kind. The club have been in and out of the Super League, which included stints in which they adopted the ‘Harlequins’ moniker used in rugby union for a period and recently have dropped out of the Super League altogether.

Jarome Luai. (Photo by Mark Kolbe/Getty Images)

The fact that the RFL have been such failures in London speaks to a lack of long term planning, vision and investment.

It has let the world pass it by, never responding to change and far from growing and expanding, the game in England appears constantly on a knife edge, with it facing failing clubs and a contracting competition. Yet, whilst all this has happened, in Australia the NRL has spent the past 20 years consolidating and slow, yet succession expansion.

For all it’s faults, it’s hard not to look at the incredible success of the Melbourne Storm in the NRL and wonder what English league might look like if it it had the sort of foresight and commitment that enabled something similar in the South of England.

I’ve seen people argue that the south of England is a harder place for league to compete than a place like Melbourne because the sporting landscape is so competitive, but I call BS on that.

In Melbourne the NRL competes with 10 AFL sides to London’s 7 EPL teams, but also competes with soccer and rugby union there as well. Indeed, Melbourne was actually actively hostile to league when the Storm were first set up, which is not a dynamic I’ve witnessed in the South of England among soccer fans.

To me, this is the core problem international rugby league needs to solve. It must have a competitive England, and for that to happen, league in England needs to get out of England’s rust belt and into it’s economic heart. But to do that it needs a long term strategy that is coherent, well resourced and committed.

George Burgess. (Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

The London Broncos aren’t the answer. They are the very definition of incoherence – even their logo is bad and looks like it was designed on MS Paint. In truth, London shouldn’t really be a single entity anyway.

The city is such a massively populated area that it probably should be split into four-five regions that have clearer identities for a team to latch onto. That’s one thing that strikes me as definitely being different about London compared to how you would approach a place like Melbourne, which is almost defined by how readily people identify as “Melbournian” before anything.

The sad truth is that English Rugby League is probably too far gone at this point, finding itself at the end of a road full of disastrous decisions and missed opportunities.

However, without it there just frankly isn’t any other obvious counterweight to the Kangaroos that would make Australians care enough to hate them, and as Origin shows, it’s the hate that makes people “choose” to watch.

The problem is that hate is earned, not chosen.

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The Crowd Says:

2023-06-14T21:42:49+00:00

dj26

Roar Rookie


It is a massive shame, mate. As you hint, I reckon you can come to the point of your article from the other end. It's almost a cruel irony that a more competitive, more storied recent history of the England/Australia rivalry would almost certainly aid league in gaining a foothold in non-heartland areas.

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2023-06-14T00:49:13+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


I think that’s right - which as you say gets us back to where we started and the reason for this article: that if we want to look at why international rugby league has lost its luster, then really it has a lot more to do with England (and to a certain extent the collapse of the game in France) than it does with Origin. To my mind, Origin actually demonstrates how few competitive teams you need for an engaging representative product. I am very confident that if RL had a more widespread and national presence in the UK and a history of being consistently competitive with Australia, then the RL internationals between us would easily be bigger than Origin. It’s a bit of a shame that it isn’t really… the competition between our two countries is closer in Union, but dominated heavily by England at present given the state of Union in Australia is probably even more precarious than the state of League in the UK - with one other code (the AFL) having intentionally and methodically spent the better part of the last fifteen years targeting Union’s traditional nurseries and hollowing them out whilst Union focused on a losing war with the NRL.

2023-06-13T16:30:42+00:00

dj26

Roar Rookie


Enjoying this conversation, so thank you! Hypothetically, I agree with you that there could be a decently sized market for league to gain ground in the south. In fact, I think we sort of land in the same place - "The sad truth is that English Rugby League is probably too far gone at this point, finding itself at the end of a road full of disastrous decisions and missed opportunities." As much as I hope that I'm wrong, I just don't see any serious league foothold in any of the metropolitan areas (and especially London) as being achievable, especially with the shambles of the RFL in charge.

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2023-06-12T12:07:40+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


Thanks for the response – and yes, I know that Union remains very much a private school kid’s game over in the UK, even more so than it is in Australia. Indeed, I have often marvelled on the comments pages here at how few people are aware of just how vile an institution the RFU have been over its history in regards to its attempts to suppress the RFL through direct threats to players, administrators and even local councils wanting to lend out facilities. It does kinda go to my thesis that there is potential in the south for Rugby League though. If everything is just football, then I would bet that – if done right – there would be a not insignificant market opportunity to generate interest from people looking for something a little different, or frankly just to diversify the teams they support (especially given the Super League is played in the summer in the UK). I mean, you could have said the exact same thing you’ve said about England and Football for Melbourne and the AFL or Sydney and the NRL, but both cities have been able to accommodate solid niches for eachothers codes, as well as for Union and the A-League.

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2023-06-12T06:08:49+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


I’ve never been much of a fan of the Murdochs, but the investment of News Ltd in Melbourne early on really was critical. It’s a shame they couldn’t have used their considerable presence in the UK to do something similar in London back in the day.

2023-06-12T05:13:44+00:00

dj26

Roar Rookie


Ah, yes, I see your point now about Melbourne competing against a larger market, as it were. However, that is not just a London thing - its an entire UK thing. Look at any of our major cities: Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds, Newcastle, Glasgow, Edinburgh, Cardiff etc, all of them are absolutely dominated by football, just look at the local newspapers. Yes the Liverpool Echo may give an article to St Helens' most recent result, and yes the Manchester Evening News might give a page or two of updates on Lancashire Cricket, Sale Sharks and Salford Red Devils, but the sports pages may as well otherwise be football pages. Over here in the UK, sports that aren't football are, on the whole, only popular in smaller towns and cities. Leeds might be an exception to that but even so, United draw in higher attendances and have more members than the Rhinos. However, fans of the other sports are usually also football fans. I don't have the data for it but I'd wager that if you were to look across the Super League towns of the M62 corridor, football would have at least as many fans as rugby league fans, probably more. Ditto for the southern towns that have Union teams like Bath and Northampton. My point is that in our major metropolitan areas, there simply isn't much demand for sport other than football, unfortunately. One other thing - there's no kinda about it, union is still a very 'posh' game over here! Thanks for your reply!

2023-06-12T04:09:09+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


That is because the first residents of Canberra were public servants from Melbourne, the original capital of Australia. They were still moving departments and staff well into the seventies.

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2023-06-12T01:46:43+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


Correct - and what I probably should have clarified more is that up until the 1960s the north of England was still a major economic centre of the country. I’ve spelled it out more in a separate comment, but post Thatcher the regions began to hollow out both from an economic and a population standpoint.

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2023-06-12T01:20:32+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


The Melbourne Storm are far from a failure financially – your information is about 15 years out of date I think. Indeed, there was an article in The Code recently making the case that the Storm’s financial performance, crowd averages, TV ratings and memberships make them a candidate for one of the most successful expansions we’ve seen. As for England, I honestly don’t see England playing as England as remotely being the problem. Rather, it was the shift of economic fortunes following the Thatcher era that changed the north from its own genuine economic power centre to being akin to the Rust Belt in the US. The rot took about 20 years to really play out, but as the south got stronger and more centred on London’s almost city-state like economy the more the RFL’s failure in having established in sort of coherent long term southern expansion strategy have hurt it. Long term, I think the idea of splitting England up into the constituent home nations also just makes sense from a development standpoint. Union’s model works because the home nations all have such a genuine dislike of each other – if the RFL could build a foundation in each country with a long term plan of creating something similar, you’d have something quite incredible. But just trying to consolidate a part of the country that was in decline even before BREXIT doesn’t make sense.

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2023-06-12T01:05:29+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


Yeah, the success of the Raiders - and then the Brumbies not long after - really changed the dynamic of Canberra it appears. I actually had no idea that the city ever had any real AFL dynamic in it until was traveling there regularly a few years ago and learned the the GWS Giants are primarily a Canberra side with most of their juniors coming from the old Canberra AFL nursuries.

2023-06-11T15:35:27+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


When I arrived at ANU in Canberra, an Australian Football city, there were students from all the Aussie Rules states eager to explain why Australian Football is the best game in the world. Most didn't know there were two distinct forms of rugby. The VFL match of the day was shown live on the one commercial TV channel. The Sydney Rugby League was shown on Sunday night after the 8:30 movie finished. The arrival of the Raiders in 1982 gave them a Rugby League team to follow and an appreciation of Rugby League.

2023-06-11T14:43:48+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


There was no TV in Australia before 1956. Sydney had to wait for the next day's newspaper (SMH & The Telegraph) to read about the match of the day at the SCG.

2023-06-11T14:31:50+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Australia didn't dominate before 1963. Britain/England won the series in 1908-09, 1910, 1914, 1921-22, 1924, 1928, 1929-30, 1932, 1933, 1936, 1937, 1946, 1948, 1952, 1956, 1958, 1959 & 1962. Australasia won in 1911-12 with 2 wins and a draw. Australia won in 1920, 1950 & 1954. In 1908-09, 1910, 1933, 1946, 1948 GB/England were unbeaten whereas Australia didn't win 3-0 before 1979.

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2023-06-11T11:51:34+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


That’s fascinating history - and to think how worked up we get at referees today! It actually reminds me a lot of stories I’ve read about All Blacks tours to South Africa back in the mid 20th century - apparently the joke was that the referee could literally be considered an extra player for the Springboks.

2023-06-11T10:53:59+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


I have made a short post in reply to EastsFootyFan above that you might find interesting. Souths were given the biggest territory when you had to play for the team of the area in which you lived. Balmain, Glebe, Easts, Norths, Newtown, Annandale and Wests were at a disadvantage as they were suburbs that had smaller areas. As a result, Souths had the most fans who attached themselves to the usual winners. Early this century Alan Clarkson a SMH rugby league journalist admitted in an interview that he and Col Pearce were Souths fans who regularly watched their team. Col Pearce was the referee, during the 1955 semi finals, who helped Souths in their fairytale run to the premiership. Saints’ captain coach, Ken Kearney complained about referee Pearce during the 1955 finals. He was stood down as coach in 1956 by the NSWRL who didn’t like his complaints about the biased refereeing of Col Pearce and Darcy Lawler. In the 1955 preliminary final 2nd half the penalties were 15-2 in Souths favour. Ken Kearney was penalised for nothing. When he asked Pearce what was that penalty for, Pearce replied “to show you who is boss”. Dick Huddart, Saints’ English international wondered why Pearce let Souths get away with so many head high tackles. In the 1968 gf when Ron Coote knocked out Bill Bradstreet with a punch to the face all Pearce did was penalise Souths. In 1962 Billy Wislon was sent off for doing the same to Bill Cody.

2023-06-11T09:45:13+00:00

Tim Buck 3

Roar Rookie


Yes, there was some real skullduggery from the pride of the league from day one. S.G.Ball was the Souths man running League in the early days when you had to play for the district in which you lived. They gave themselves the huge territory southeast of the city and Easts were given a small area with hardly enough teams to run junior competitions. Wests were sold a lemon with the promise of future expansion to the west but they lost territory when St.George and Canterbury were admitted to the League. Wests, who won many spoons in the early days, finally got some good teams in the early 30's and they won premierships in 1930 and 1934. In 1938 they had to give many of their premiership winning players to Canterbury who won a premiership with them that year. Easts performed really well despite this handicap,

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2023-06-11T07:01:08+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


I was thinking about the depth of the lower leagues in English soccer and whether to bring that up, but my central thesis was that from a whole of market standpoint it’s still more limited than what is on offer in Melbourne - especially when you boil it down to a per capita basis. Even accounting for the lower leagues etc, it’s still basically one product you’re competing with. The NRL competes with the AFL’s 10 teams in Victoria AND A-League teams and Super Rugby. The cross over isn’t perfect with each of them, but the underlying point is that there’s a larger menu of sporting flavours you can access with the broader base of codes on offer. That’s what I find harder to understand about London. If you’re not into soccer and want something more gladatorial, then you’ve got two Rugby Union teams and that’s it… and if you find Union too much of a posh game (which it still kinda is over there), then you’ve got nothing.

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2023-06-11T06:42:25+00:00

EastsFootyFan

Roar Guru


Thanks Rosie :happy: . I haven’t written on the Souths v Easts rivalry, but I’ve read a lot about the early history of the clubs and the old borders etc. There absolutely was some real sculduggery from the Bunnies and you have to wonder how the history of the teams would have developed if our territories and boundaries hadn’t been shifted… it’s always struck me how the second of Souths’ two periods of dominance occurred following the change.

2023-06-10T21:48:04+00:00

Rosie

Roar Rookie


This article was a great read thanks for writing it. Have you ever written a piece on the Easts v South Sydney rivalry? I would love to read a well researched piece showcasing all of the cheap and nasty thing the Rabbitohs have done over the years. Things like the 1909 GF, having weight on the NSWRL board to have the junior boundaries redefined, stripping Easts of their territory. Also I believe they were heavily involved in voting Newtown out, also to gain their junior territory. I would love someone to write a book debunking the “book of feuds” I believe the “Glory Glory South Sydney” campaign has been one of the most successful promotional campaigns in Aussie sport, this came about when Rusty took over the club.

2023-06-10T07:19:33+00:00

Brainstrust

Roar Rookie


Bringing England into it is what has stuffed up rugby league further in Great Britain. The North of England likes to think of itself as being different and identify more with being British. Great Britain won a lot of matches but never a series up until when they switched to England sometime in the 2000’s. England hasn;t beaten Australia for ages and the last time they beat Australia was years before Great Britain last did in the 2000’s. Rugby Union and league in England are different worlds, even more divided than it was in Australia. Trying to expand in London is a bad idea . They should have also kept the French playing in their own league with their strongest teams not bring teams into England. Storm have been a failure financially, the Broncos make money if they come last.

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