Looks a lot like Billy Slaters shoulder charge before the GF. Using that as a precedence, then no penalty try and good to go for next week.
All we ask for is consistence.
The contact was what was worth a penalty (apparently), not the fact that he made contact. I can't recall ever seeing a defender making contact with a player with the ball ever being considered a profesional foul regardless of the contact (aside from tripping, but that's in another class alltogether). Profesional fouls are generally restricted to incidents off the ball or while the ball isn't live (after the tackle is complete).
At any rate, the ball was still grounded well in from touch so it's not like it wasn't in his power to score if he keeps his hand up. Here's a more exaggerated example, say Corey Oates the other night is taken off the ball like he was, but recovers and gets to the ball with no one around him, crosses the line and just drops it cold, was he still denied an opportunity to score a try? Or is it just a penalty for getting taken off the ball? I'd say it's just a penalty.
But surely deliberately using an illegal tackle to prevent a try which would imo have been scored if the illegal tackle had not been used is the very definition of a penalty try . That has to be a professional foul.
Once they called it a shoulder charge( and I am not totally convinced) then they had to call penalty try. If he was tripped or stiff armed and that stopped him scoring then it’s a penalty try surely.
It amazes me how explayers with professional media careers have such a simplistic grasp of the game. You don’t award penalty trys just because there was a penalty in the lead up, you award them if there was a professional foul that directly prevented a try from being scored. Otherwise every single offside call or high shot in the attacking 20 would be a penalty try.
Even if you believe that was a shoulder charge that’s still classed as a penalty, not a professional foul, so no, it was not a penalty try.
Dogs Boddy
Roar Rookie
Looks a lot like Billy Slaters shoulder charge before the GF. Using that as a precedence, then no penalty try and good to go for next week. All we ask for is consistence.
Emcie
Roar Guru
The "shoulder charge" didn't stop the bal being grounded, the only thing stopping it being a try was his hand going out
Emcie
Roar Guru
The contact was what was worth a penalty (apparently), not the fact that he made contact. I can't recall ever seeing a defender making contact with a player with the ball ever being considered a profesional foul regardless of the contact (aside from tripping, but that's in another class alltogether). Profesional fouls are generally restricted to incidents off the ball or while the ball isn't live (after the tackle is complete). At any rate, the ball was still grounded well in from touch so it's not like it wasn't in his power to score if he keeps his hand up. Here's a more exaggerated example, say Corey Oates the other night is taken off the ball like he was, but recovers and gets to the ball with no one around him, crosses the line and just drops it cold, was he still denied an opportunity to score a try? Or is it just a penalty for getting taken off the ball? I'd say it's just a penalty.
Simoc
Guest
Maybe its you that doesn't understand Emcie. No shoulder charge its a try. Maybe you need an optometrist. The rest of what you write is nonsense.
jimmmy
Roar Rookie
But surely deliberately using an illegal tackle to prevent a try which would imo have been scored if the illegal tackle had not been used is the very definition of a penalty try . That has to be a professional foul. Once they called it a shoulder charge( and I am not totally convinced) then they had to call penalty try. If he was tripped or stiff armed and that stopped him scoring then it’s a penalty try surely.
Emcie
Roar Guru
It amazes me how explayers with professional media careers have such a simplistic grasp of the game. You don’t award penalty trys just because there was a penalty in the lead up, you award them if there was a professional foul that directly prevented a try from being scored. Otherwise every single offside call or high shot in the attacking 20 would be a penalty try. Even if you believe that was a shoulder charge that’s still classed as a penalty, not a professional foul, so no, it was not a penalty try.
Cugel
Roar Rookie
You get a penalty try! You get a penalty try! Penalty tries for everyone!