The ins and outs of the All Black squad

By Elliot Lodge / Roar Pro

As the Super 14 heats up at the business end of the competition, the five kiwi teams are all still in contention for the title. The consistency of the New Zealand teams has to bode well for the All Black depth this year.

Sportphobia takes a look at how Graeme Henry and his brains trust’s first All Black squad for 2009 might be looking.

Props:
Tony Woodcock is the obvious selection at prop and, although he has had his injury worries this year, the Blues’ talisman looks to have sewn up one side of the scrum. The rest of the propping cupboard is looking a bit bare. Crusaders workhorse Wyatt Crocket looks a chance for a bolter.

Neemia Tialata will surely be in the thinking of Steve Hansen with his ability to prop both sides of the scrum and Jamie McIntosh and John Afoa look to be the others in the mix.

Hooker:
Andrew Hore enjoyed a fantastic 2008 before succumbing to injury and, in his brief appearances so far this season, his game still looks strong. Lineout throwing seems to be his biggest downfall but not much more can be said about his biggest rival, Kevin Mealamu’s throwing either.

Outside of the two veterans, chief’s hooker Aled de Malmanche may be a possibility, although his team mate Hika Elliott also looks an outside contender.

Locks:
Ali Williams is the obvious selection to take one of the locking positions but the other one is up for much debate. His Blues colleague Anthony Boric continues to grow in stature and is an option but, having signed with the NZRU through until 2011, former league star Brad Thorn continues to defy his age as he carries the Crusaders tight five.

Thorn has signalled his All Blacks intentions and looks a strong contender.

The Hurricanes’ pairing of Jason Eaton and Jeremy Thrush continue to improve and, along with Highlander Tom Donnelly who is coming along nicely, look the only other possibilities.

Blindside Flanker:
A position that was never settled upon last year, Jerome Kaino looks an option at blindside. The Auckland big man looks to be hitting his straps at the right time and is probably in pole position. Otago bogan Adam Thompson is another option there but is prone to getting penalised.

Perhaps this is the time for Keiran Read to be given his All Black turn as he continues to impress, captaining the Crusaders in McCaw’s absence.

Openside Flanker:
Only injury is going to deny All Black captain Richie McCaw the number seven spot. But who will back him up will continue to worry All Black selectors.

Chief Tanerau Latimer had a limited go on the end on year tour and has had a solid Super 14 and looks a candidate. In the way of a genuine fetcher, Scott Waldrom may fancy his chances should horror strike McCaw.

Number 8:
Rodney So’oialo is the incumbent back rower, and with his high work-rate and physical presence, is the obvious selection yet again. Liam Messam and Sione Lauaki have both shown promise for the Chiefs but the consistency is lacking for both.

Thomas Waldrom has grown immensely now he has a starting spot at the Crusaders and might be in line as So’oialo’s back-up.

Halfback:
Perhaps the position with the most depth in New Zealand, there are realistically five players who could do a good job there for the All Blacks. Chiefs livewire Brendon Leonard is perhaps a nose in front of the pack with his ability to give quick ball. Jimmy Cowan is another contender as he valiantly leads the Highlanders, although his discipline is a concern.

Andrew Ellis does a good job at the Crusaders and the Hurricanes pairing of Piri Weepu and Alby Mathewson wouldn’t disgrace a black jersey.

First Five-eighth:
After Dan Carter suffered an injury that should put him out of the June internationals and some of the Tri-Nations series, the pivotal number 10 spot has become a topic of discussion.

With Henry keen on the barnstorming Ma’a Nonu at 12 over another playmaker, the All Black first receiver needs to take control and direct the backline.

Stephen Donald was Carter’s back-up last year, but some believe he may have fallen off the pace a bit. Piri Weepu has done a good job for the Hurricanes, but perhaps not to Test standard.

Stephen Brett has had a good but unspectacular year at 10 for the Crusaders and looks the only other in the mix.

So consequently, the issue begs the question: will the rugby union allow an exemption to the eligibility rule for the returning Luke McAlister?

There is no doubt he is an immensely talented footballer and, being still at a fresh age, he has a lot to offer New Zealand rugby. He often plays in the centres but he has experience at five-eighth and looks a tempting option for the selectors.

Second Five-eighth:
Ma’a Nonu enjoyed perhaps his most consistent year in the black jersey in 2008 and appears the front runner to pin down the spot for another season.

His combination with fellow Wellingtonian Conrad Smith outside him is a decisive factor in his favour as he returned to his best with a double against the Stormers last week.

Isaia Toeava possesses the skill set to succeed at 12 if given an opportunity, otherwise Highlander Daniel Bowden keeps improving his football and is an outside chance.

Centre:
Strong but healthy competition occurred last year for the midfield jersey. Conrad Smith is a likeable option. Possessing a cool head, staunch defence and a stabilising attacking influence, he may just have the wood over young Waikato 13, Richard Kahui.

Kahui is more of an impact player, with the ability to shake up the opposition, so he mightn’t be a bad option for the bench with his ability to play on the wing.

Wing:
The flying Fijians look to be finding some form on the wing at the right time. Sitiveni Sivivatu has been a pivotal factor in the turnaround of the Chiefs’ season and looks to have booked up his favoured left wing.

Joe Rokocoko is improving as the season develops, but still has some way to go.

David Smith has ignited fans in the capital recently and if he continues he may come into Wayne Smith’s thinking. Anthony Tuituvake will be desperate for a decent All Black run this year and, along with Crusader Colin Slade and Chiefs flyer Lelia Masaga, should be the names tossed around.

Fullback:
Mils Muliaina looks a shoe-in for 15.

After overcoming injury problems he looks solid and unfazed at the back for the Chiefs. Leon McDonald is still playing consistent footy in Christchurch, but his age is against him.

Cory Jane is getting better for the Hurricanes but still lacks the solidarity wanted for the fullback position, especially at Test level. But he may come into the reckoning.

The team:
1. Tony Woodcock
2. Andrew Hore
3. Jamie McIntosh
4. Brad Thorn
5. Ali Williams
6. Kieran Read
7. Richie McCaw
8. Rodney So’oialo
9. Brendon Leonard
10. Luke McAlister
11. Sitiveni Sivivatu
12. Ma’a Nonu
13. Conrad Smith
14. David Smith
15. Mils Muliana

16. Neemia Tialata
17. Kevin Mealamu
18. Tom Donnelly
19. Jerome Kaino
20. Piri Weepu
21. Richard Kahui
22. Isaia Toeava

The Crowd Says:

2009-06-22T03:36:55+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


I agree that there is high public/media expectation, but I think the general tone of the reports out of NZ was satisfaction with that performance, although S Donald is coming in for some warranted criticism. Best test was the Lions on the weekend - agree with your comment about SA - although I think the Lions can take a fair bit out of second half performance.

2009-06-22T03:32:24+00:00

SouthernWaratah

Guest


Concerned? The comment was only made because public opinion always seams to be that the AB's must win by 50 in each test and that they are a shoe in for the RWC... My comments months ago were stating that without Carter the AB’s would be a lesser team and I think that’s proving to be fair. South Africa will be the bench mark this winter anyway…

2009-06-22T03:19:44+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


Well, I'd rather they played sparkling rugby every week, but I'm pleased that they improved on Dunedin (esp in the forwards), they picked a more sensible team and played a better gameplan in atrocious conditions. In two outings this year our lineout's been a standout (Isaac Ross is a major find in that regard). Scrum was solid, much more accuracy around the park. Unlike last week where I felt like there was no way we were going to win from about 5 min in (like watching Cardiff 2007), it never seemed like we were going to lose that one. So I think they're going OK, there's room to improve and they will. What should I be concerned about?

2009-06-22T03:12:25+00:00

SouthernWaratah

Guest


Nick aren't you at all concerned that an All Blacks side playing 'OK' is acceptable?

2009-06-22T03:10:09+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


No, I'm happy to say they played OK, and pleased you agree.

2009-06-22T03:03:27+00:00

SouthernWaratah

Guest


Actually as I look back I said they'd lost their 'MoJo" Which my translation is that they've lost their look of invincibility. Correct on the Wallabies, No comment until the opposition is genuine. BUT if you need to deflect attention away from an “OK” All Blacks then I’m happy to read your deflective comments

2009-06-22T02:59:17+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


You didn't say they were average, you said they'd lost it. I disagree - they did OK against tough opposition. We can leave the Wallers out of it if you prefer.

2009-06-22T02:43:58+00:00

SouthernWaratah

Guest


Don’t go taking this conversation to some place else! I never said a word about the wallabies beating a very average Italian side. This article is about the All Blacks and the squad they have for this season. I merely stated that they would be average without Carter and I think that’s a fair comment.

2009-06-22T02:00:14+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


Well you'd clearly like to think so. I thought they played ok in difficult circumstances against a committed and talented opposition. I'd wait until the Wallers have played someone other than the Italians before getting too excited about your prospects.

2009-06-22T01:55:34+00:00

SouthernWaratah

Guest


I said a while ago "No Carter No All Blacks" My haven't they lost their MoJo!

2009-05-18T01:01:10+00:00

nicko

Guest


Interesting squad, i reccon you wont be far off when the actual team is selected. except i cant see david smith making it yet, i recon they will go with 2 of gear/tuitavake/masanga/roks. and liam messam at 6 perhaps. who knows though! great article mate

2009-05-01T21:27:02+00:00

super tah

Roar Rookie


I like the Squad but i do not like some of the players.l think you should replace Jamie Mackintosh with N.Tialata, i think you should replace K.Read with Josh Blackie,i think you should replace Brendon Leonard with Jimmy Cowan, i think you should replace Luke McAlister with Jimmy Gopperth, i think you should replace David Smith with Joe Rokoocoko, i think you should replace Richard Kahui with J.Shoemark

2009-04-26T22:29:18+00:00

Nick (KIA)

Guest


Yeah I'm disappointed I missed that game. The two games from the Republic (involving NZ sides) were interesting. Cheifs looked very good in losing against probably the hardest team in the competition to beat at home, especially the backline, and 2 bonus points are invaluable. I thought Kahui was very strong, and Donald had a very good game, one of his best of the season. Crusaders just seemed to lack penetration, especially in midfield, and the kicking was disappointing. Suspect semis look like Bulls Sharks Hurricanes Cheifs. Hopefully at least one game in NZ.

2009-04-26T14:54:34+00:00

ohtani's jacket

Guest


It'll be interesting to see how he goes in the Tri-Nations, but that run where he beat Mortlock on the inside was sensational. As was the pass.

2009-04-25T17:57:44+00:00

Sam Taulelei

Roar Guru


OJ interesting isn't it how perceptions of Nonu in the media and public has changed. In previous seasons he's been criticised (and justifiably) for his lack of ball control, temperament and being too one dimensional and not passing the ball. Wayne Smith has always maintained his faith in the guy and often states that Nonu possesses many skills that we hadn't seen much of during games. Leading into this game Nonu was receiving criticism for passing the ball too much and not threatening defences enough with his running. He's laying down a marker to McAlister and anyone else who wants to take his All Black spot this year.

2009-04-25T17:49:14+00:00

Sam Taulelei

Roar Guru


Jack won't be named in the All Blacks squad ahead of the end of season tour unless we suffer drastic injuries, we have more depth at lock than we do at no.10. Missed half the first half of the Hurricanes game as Fox Sports didn't show it on delayed coverage following the delay in the Blues v Reds game. Nonu (and the rest of his teammates) are starting to hit form at the right time of the season. The Chiefs impressed me also despite losing to the Bulls. Their lineout was dysfunctional (but against Matfield who isn't) and in previous years this was a game they would have normally been thrashed in when they've toured the Republic.

2009-04-25T13:15:26+00:00

ohtani's jacket

Guest


Yeah, I dunno about Jack. I suppose if he's good enough he'll play his way back into the side, but I think the third lock ought to be a young guy. How badly does Nonu wanna keep the 12 jersey? That was the most awesome performance I've seen from a New Zealand second five eight in years. If Nonu and Smith can reproduce that form at Test level, we might start seeing some fireworks again.

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2009-04-25T11:28:46+00:00

Elliot Lodge

Roar Pro


Just saw the news about Chris Jack, fantastic stuff a huge coup for New Zealand rugby. His experience should be invaluable. By the way, I will be releasing a similar article about the Wallabies prospects in the coming days for you Aussies who want their glory.

2009-04-25T05:41:59+00:00

ohtani's jacket

Guest


Regarding the earlier point about the Wallabies, one thing I'll say for the Aussies is that no matter how out-matched they are, they always seem to lift when they play the All Blacks. They relish playing the All Blacks and that's something I've come to admire about them over the years. I also think we don't often play our best rugby against them. So forget about how it looks on paper, when it comes down to the actual Tests, the All Blacks are going to have to perform. IIRC, we've got the Eden Park Test straight out of the bat, but there's a tricky away leg after that, which makes it a harder Tri-Nations to win than usual. I believe this is the first year we've started with an away leg in the expanded format.

2009-04-25T03:57:25+00:00

Sam Taulelei

Roar Guru


With all the attention on McAlister's exemption of sorts, what has been overlooked is the news that Chris Jack has re-signed with the NZRU through to the end of 2011. That adds invaluable experience and ability to our locking stocks. I'm still waiting for the announcement that Hayman is returning and then all of a sudden we've added 100 caps or more to the All Blacks squad.

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