Rebels should look for diversity with signings

By rugbyfuture / Roar Guru

Many have stirred over the potential signings of the Victorian Rebels rugby team. This is not a danger, nor is it to the detriment of youth within Australia. This could be, with careful balance, a great marketing opportunity.

An opening to international players could mean that the Rebels become the diversity team. Rather than simply look at saffas, kiwis and islanders, look beyond the Tri-Nation’s borders to Japan, greater Africa and the rest of the developing rugby world.

Surely, some of those who play international for a mid-ranked team will be at some sort of level close to Super 15. Ensuring that some of these players make it into the team could mean a knock on effect to attract those of different cultural and racial backgrounds into the game in Australia.

After all, Australia is the nation of nations.

Look at a school rugby game in Australia and you are only likely to see whites, islanders and maybe the occasional Aboriginal. I’m part Chinese myself, but didn’t see any other Asians playing rugby in my schooling career.

This may spell that rugby may have itself a part in racial stereotyping it needs to defeat. The Rebels can spell an end to this.

Some here will argue that the incentives offered in some Asian countries and African nations and developing European nations may have already been tagged by the more professional and higher earning rugby places.

Some, though, pass through the filter and others may be attracted to the lifestyle opportunities within Australia, the great and lucky country.

The Crowd Says:

2010-01-14T13:06:15+00:00

Working Class Rugger

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I've played Rugby with a couple of Indians and against several Asians. They are out there but not in great number's.

2010-01-13T13:17:45+00:00

Rockin Rod

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Mark Gerrard ???

2010-01-13T13:13:15+00:00

Rockin Rod

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Sam Harris already signed with Western Force(only 1 year i think)

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2010-01-13T12:40:30+00:00

rugbyfuture

Roar Guru


i think he's quite good at adapting, and he did draft the eventually rejected elv's we'll have to see aye, theres still some good players from aus overseas who might wanna come home.

2010-01-13T12:37:35+00:00

allblackfan

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doubtful RF. At least not with the WC so close. He may attract some players no longer in their prime but that's risky. In any case, MacQueen has been out of the game for awhile. And the game has changed. The style of rugby he coached would no longer be good enough to win the big games

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2010-01-13T12:31:29+00:00

rugbyfuture

Roar Guru


macqueen might attract a few good players though.

2010-01-13T12:29:20+00:00

allblackfan

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good luck trying to sign up top notch overseas players then!!

2010-01-13T04:27:26+00:00

Brett McKay

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Cop that, player managers....

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2010-01-13T04:07:26+00:00

rugbyfuture

Roar Guru


http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/rebels-urge-moneygrabbers-to-stay-away-20100113-m65c.html Rebels urge money-grabbers to stay away GUY HAND January 13, 2010 - 3:09PM AAP Melbourne Rebels new coach Rod Macqueen says mercenaries aren't welcome at the Super 15 rugby union club he will build from the ground up. Former Wallabies coach Macqueen has been lured out of a near-decade long retirement into a three-year deal to be head coach and director of coaching at the Rebels, who will join the competition in 2011. But those expecting the Rebels to shower current Wallabies, overseas internationals and would-be rugby league converts with cash have been warned by the World Cup-winning coach - we won't be showing you the money unless you show us the right culture. "We don't want players coming here for the money," Macqueen said in Melbourne on Wednesday after taking over at the Rebels. "We don't want money to be the motivation, we want it to be a consequence of what they do. "That comes into the sort of culture we want to build here - there's been a bit of speculation in the paper that has been thrown out recently by some of the (player) managers. "We won't be going after players to be the highest bidders. We'll be going after players who want to come here, who want to be part of it, want to embrace the community, want to embrace Melbourne." The Rebels have been linked to several big names, including Brisbane league star Israel Folau, Wallabies vice-captain Berrick Barnes and England captain Phil Vickery. Macqueen's appointment is a huge coup for the new franchise, after turning down any number of offers to return to coaching following his retirement from the Wallabies' job in 2001. As well as his impeccable coaching pedigree in building the Wallabies into the world's best during his five-year tenure, Macqueen also has valuable experience in starting up a Super rugby franchise. He was the foundation coach of the ACT Brumbies, and since stepping away from rugby coaching has built up a raft of successful business interests. Macqueen said doing some initial consultancy work with those involved in the Rebels' Super 15 bid re-ignited his passion to coach, saying it was a great opportunity. "It made me think I'd like to have a bigger involvement, because there's something special that can happen in this area (Melbourne)," said Macqueen, who will base himself in Melbourne as soon as possible. "To win you've got to have very high standards, you've got to put in a lot of hard work, you've got to have a good culture, you have to have an intelligent team. "If we can pay attention to those things, chances are we'll do well." His assistant will be current Sydney University coach Damien Hill. Macqueen's appointment follows the Rebels' signing of Melbourne Storm NRL boss Brian Waldron as chief executive earlier this week.

2010-01-12T23:14:23+00:00

Yikes

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Sure, Bay, it won't be 7, but I'm just saying they used to have a highlights show and that's what we might get.

2010-01-12T22:31:07+00:00

Justin

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And considering Ten now have One, a 24hr sports channel you would think its a fit, whether its a highlights show or if One pay for some local matches (live or on delay). I suspect that Fox wont allow live matches though so perhaps a delay is the best you could hope for.

2010-01-12T22:24:38+00:00

Bay35Pablo

Roar Guru


Supposedly there was talk of another Aussie side signing Tuqiri after being sacked as a mrquee, but the ARU allegedly said they would refuse to register his contract. I suspect the marquee rule is intended to get out of the salary cap the teams have for special players, which are expected to be foreign players and paid for by the club not the ARU. As such, it seems technically possible that they could sign him as long as they are funding it.

2010-01-12T22:21:13+00:00

Bay35Pablo

Roar Guru


Stuff seven. Hopefully ten. At least they seem to respect the sports they get.

2010-01-12T22:14:57+00:00

Justin

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Dont forget they could well look at the underused Sunday arvo slot.

2010-01-12T22:09:35+00:00

Roger

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I see that News Ltd papers are suggesting Foloau could be signed as a Marguee player for $600K? Firslty, I though Marquee players had to be from overseas. Am i mistaken? Secondly, in the absence of ARU funds, could/would Melb really be able to pay this much?

2010-01-12T21:53:49+00:00

Roger

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To date, secheduling has meant Brumbies and Tahs have not played at home on the same night, but now with Melbourne there is sure to be a conflictand an opportunity for Fox to on sell rights to a digital channel. I am also sure Fox would on sell some SA home games as well. NZ games start at 3.30 and 5.30 Aust time, and Qld games start at 8.

2010-01-12T21:52:24+00:00

Bay35Pablo

Roar Guru


Rebels looking at Phil Vickery as a marquee player. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/england-star-phil-vickery-on-melbourne-rebels-hit-list/story-e6frg7mf-1225818591338

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2010-01-12T13:39:36+00:00

rugbyfuture

Roar Guru


Successful Students coach on Rebels' radar RUPERT GUINNESS January 13, 2010 http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union-news/successful-students-coach-on-rebels-radar-20100112-m4sh.html Sydney University's Damien Hill is poised to be named today on a three-man coaching panel at the new Melbourne Rebels Super 15 side led by former Wallabies coach Rod Macqueen. Hill, a former Brumbies Academy coach before he took over the Shute Shield premiers, has long been seen as a coach of the future. His appointment will be popular, especially at Sydney University. While he would have to stand down from coaching the Students, the club has long supported the bid for a Melbourne Super team in the hope it could open a pathway for its immense talent pool players to progress to Super rugby level. The Rebels' coaching line-up will be named today at Melbourne Rectangular Stadium, which will be the home ground for the new team in the new-look Super 15 competition, which starts next year. The announcements of a director of coaching, head coach and assistant coach follow yesterday's meeting in the South Melbourne office of Rebels chairman Harold Mitchell. Also in attendance were current Melbourne Storm chief executive Brian Waldron, named on Monday as the new Rebels CEO, and Macqueen, who coached Australia to their 1999 World Cup victory. It is also believed John Connolly, a former Queensland Reds coach who led the Wallabies to the 2007 World Cup in France, where they lost their quarter-final to England, was also at the meeting. There has already been widespread speculation that Macqueen will today be named the director of coaching. There has been suggestion that Connolly will have a role, although it is not clear whether that will be as head coach or as an assistant to work in development and recruitment. But Hill's name has so far been kept heavily under wraps. Hill did not return calls yesterday and Macqueen last night said he was unable to comment on the outcome of yesterday's meetings. While Hill's name has come out of the blue, his appointment as a coach would make a good fit. It would send a message to developing Australian coaches that there is still an avenue at home for a professional career to progress and that working overseas was not the only option. And even if Hill is named as an assistant coach with Connolly as head coach, that would allow for a succession plan so the Sydney Uni man could one day take the top job. Hill's credentials have been quietly recognised by those in the know who have been working behind the scenes to get the Rebels up and running for next year. The Rebels' leadership would have noted Hill's role in four of the Students' five Sydney premiership wins, first as a director of coaching at University before becoming head coach. When Wallabies coach Robbie Deans first saw the Students play in the 2008 Shute Shield final against Randwick at Concord Oval, he remarked that they were a side of the standard of New Zealand's NPC competition. Hill's reputation would only have been enhanced when the Students repeated their title win against the Galloping Greens at the Sydney Football Stadium last year. With Macqueen being a founding member of the Brumbies in 1996-97, Hill's rise from the ranks of their academy coaching ranks would have counted in his favour. Added to that was his experience in a short coaching stint with the Suntory club in Japan after leaving the Brumbies. Today's coaching appointments, however, won't necessarily be the last. The Herald understands that the Rebels might still be on the lookout for a specialist forwards coach. One strong option is John McKee, who has long expressed interest in making a step up in coaching. His career began in Victoria coaching Harlequins and the state side. McKee is head coach of Warringah and also held the same role with the Central Coast Rays, who won the inaugural title in the now-defunct Australian Rugby Championship. Meanwhile, Waratahs back-rower Wycliff Palu is bracing himself for the Melbourne-Sydney rugby rivalry to explode next year. The Wallabies star has returned to the Waratahs this week after his break following the end-of-season tour in Japan and the UK. Asked about the impending rivalry before Waratahs training yesterday, Palu told AAP: ''I think it will be awesome, I can't wait to go up against them [Melbourne]. ''I think it's only going to be better for Aussie rugby. Down there, they always get great support, so that will be good.''

2010-01-12T10:22:12+00:00

Justin

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There is virtually never a conflict in the scheduling. Every match is shown live. I cant recall a clash ever. Might be wrong but none come to mind...

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2010-01-12T10:18:04+00:00

rugbyfuture

Roar Guru


rebels to announce coach at 1130 tommorrow morning officially.

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