Uate's choice will hurt the international game

By M1tch / Roar Guru

This is not blaming Newcastle flyer Akuila Uate, who played junior rugby league on the central coast and like any rugby league player who has played junior footy in NSW, wants to wear the sky blue jersey for NSW.

Playing for NSW will forfeit his right to play for his native Fiji.

It seems the powers that be once again do everything to allow Australia, New Zealand and even England the chance to stay stronger with players from other countries, while these developing nations continually lose their best players with a rare chance to have them come World Cup time.

Once again, I am not blaming Uate. In fact, as a New South Wales fan, I would have loved to see him run around for NSW this year, and I hope to see him in the 2011 and beyond. But as a rugby league fan, I also want him to be able to play for his native country.

Such simple rules can be implemented.

If you are a player born outside of Australia or New Zealand, and you have played junior rugby league in Australia or New Zealand, you are eligible for representative rugby league in Australia or New Zealand, but any national representation will be for your country of birth.

The same rule can apply to players born in Australia or New Zealand, but with heritage of a developing nation.

Similar rules also need to be implemented for England and France to stop players from either the Pacific Islands or other European nations becoming eligible through the current rules.

The bar is heavily slanted towards the bigger rugby league nations. The strong get stronger and the weaker get weaker. This simply cannot carry on.

The 2008 World Cup should have been the point where administrators realised the potential the game has throughout the Pacific Islands and even United Kingdom, but we are stuck with keeping the big three as strong as possible.

The Crowd Says:

2010-08-11T10:39:02+00:00

allblackfan

Guest


What would be the point, mtngry? These emerging sides will produce a rare player of outstanding quality only for Aust/NZ (more likely Aust) to pinch them. If Uate is allowed to switch sides, this could have all sorts of ramifications for international RL in this neck of the woods

2010-08-11T07:45:46+00:00

mtngry

Guest


As long as their is only the money and prestige in internationals at the 4 nations level, why wouldn't you want to play where the money and competition is? I think the best solution is more international rugby, with well payed and respected competition, representing emerging nations will be more palatable.

2010-08-10T02:26:02+00:00

soapit

Guest


so which team would burgess play for?

2010-08-09T03:28:16+00:00

Mushi

Guest


Why is he only eligible to play for NSW?

2010-08-08T03:04:07+00:00

allblackfan

Guest


It sounds like you're saying that Jarrod Hayne should not have been allowed to play for NSW after he played for Fiji in the RLWC? Or Michael Jennings (Tonga)?

2010-08-07T03:34:52+00:00

Vhavnal

Roar Rookie


Shame really, It was bad enough that all our good players got poached by NZ and Australia in rugby union, now they are doing the same in league....how are the pacific island teams like fiji, Samoa, tonga, cook islands, PNG supposed to grow if all our players are forced to play for NZ/OZ . League players do get paid more than union players but forcing a players to forego his allegiance to his country of birth so that he could play in an origin series is downright stupid....Uate is a good example of a player that was brought up in australia and thus should be eligible for origins without getting rid of his allegiance to a country that gave him a chance to show his worth in the biggest competition of all..I'm strongly against this decision by ARL cause if this goes through, this will open a whole new door which will slowly engulf the poor pacific league playing countries who will no longer be able to compete against the big 3 because they no longer have all their best players who have left because they chose money over country. This will pretty much kill league in the pacific cause this will allow other top players in the pacific region to drop their allegiance to their island for a chance to play in the origin series.....

2010-08-06T12:42:17+00:00

Sylvester

Guest


NZ are at just as a great a risk as the likes of Fiji and Samoa, probably moreso. More and more there is pressure on talented young Kiwis to chose between Origin and Test footy for NZ. Benji and Sonny Bill could easily have been lost to the Kangaroos. It was personally galling to see Karmichael Hunt turn out in tests against NZ, and I see also that Ben Te'o may do likewise by pledging allegiance to QLD. Equally, the cappings of Fien and Webb didn't sit well with me, but it's easy to get sucked in when the talent pool is limited.

2010-08-06T10:01:40+00:00

Karlos

Guest


Yes Hutch, it must come down to a players choice. If Australia, NZ and England pumped a bit of $ into the smaller nations so they could pay them a decent wage for an International game, then I am sure more would choost to play where their heart lays. That would boost the numbers in those nations playing Rugby League and after a while those nations would be self supportive. International Rugby League as a whole is run like many clubs I see; concentrating only on the current season and never building a soilid base to grow and always be strong.

2010-08-06T09:52:02+00:00

Karlos

Guest


I agree. A real dumb idea. Sorry Oikee. We already have the All Stars v Indigenous game.

2010-08-06T07:04:54+00:00

oikee

Guest


Lots of good ideas come from the yanks. Look at commissions and all-star indigernous game which included the big pom Burgess and kiwis. You need to keep moving forward, keeping origin like it is will simply kill the game off.

2010-08-06T07:03:11+00:00

hutch

Roar Guru


so would you be happy mitch if for example, the 17 players who run out for nsw next year all represent other countries?

2010-08-06T07:00:47+00:00

hutch

Roar Guru


i strongly disagree. if a player plays for a national team then it is a committment, not something you do when you miss out on australia or nz. your idea will see us with 8 teams of australians pretending to be internatioanal test teams! lets get serious about international rugby league and actually develop these national teams, not throw them together at the last minute after australia has finalised its squad!

2010-08-06T06:57:52+00:00

hutch

Roar Guru


uate simply should not be eligible for nsw. he is a current fijian test player, origin is for australian test players. allowing a player to play for nsw and qld and for another country is not the answer. while it is probably better than the current rules, it is not the solution to improving our international game, it is a quick fix and ignores actual development of rugby league in other nations. we need to give players with dual nationalities a fairer choice in choosing their allegiance for test rugby league. australia has its origin series which is a huge drawcard for these players, not that all players choose origin over playing for a heritage nation (eg. nathan cayless). there should be tests and tournaments for other nations also during this period for other nations. for eg, nz origin, nz v pac islands, pac cup, samoa v tonga, png v fiji etc. if they choose origin and australia, so be it, it is their right. if they choose another nation, then it is great for the international gam,. but they must make a choice! the rules as they stand are an absolute joke and makes our sport look amateurish!

2010-08-06T06:55:25+00:00

hutch

Roar Guru


it is a joke, it is the biggest issue holding us back internationally. playing for a country is a commitment, not something you do when you miss out on another country. it should be one country for life, or you should have to stand down for 5 years before switching. this picking and choosing every couple of years is a farce.

2010-08-06T03:47:20+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I don't really want to see Benji, Burgess or SBW playing state of origin. It may add to the spectacle but dilutes the meaning, context and passion. Only Australia, NZ and England can be classed as tier 1 test playing nations. France and PNG aren't anywhere near the pace. I reckon they need to tighten up the qualifications for the NZ, Oz and Eng to avoid players electing who they will play for or switching between the two. Situations like Fien playing for NZ, Tonie Carroll switching between Oz and NZ and Heighington playing for England / GB. Who cares if he has English grandparents - he's clearly an Australian player ? I think these cases are a bad look for international league. Conversely they need to relax the rules for the 2nd tier teams so someone like Uate can qualify for Origin and to play for Oz if good enough but can still turn out for Fiji if he doesn't make the cut. A Nigel Vagana could play for NZ but then represent Samoa if he didn't make NZ. NRL players involvement with the tier 2 teams can only be of benefit for the teams and from all reports Hayne playing with Fiji in the 08 WC was a good experience for him. I suspect that player payments may become an issue though - would the 2010 version of Hayne turn out for Fiji for nix if he didn't make the Oz side and would Parra want to risk him ?

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2010-08-06T03:33:50+00:00

M1tch

Roar Guru


Born in Suva, came out here I believe when he was 14 or 15.....

2010-08-06T02:39:34+00:00

The all new King of the Gorganites

Guest


What do u expect from someone who was born and rasied in NSW. He is more Australian then fijian.

2010-08-06T02:30:38+00:00

Stan Morris

Guest


Terrible idea oikee, Then it's not SOO it's just a US-style "All-Star" game. No thanks.

2010-08-06T02:18:53+00:00

Jay

Guest


good call, worth considering.

2010-08-06T01:41:21+00:00

Justin

Roar Pro


That old chestnut, dear me...

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