Civoniceva was a victim of a lack of consistency

By Luke Doherty / Roar Guru

Penrith captain Petero Civoniceva deserved to be sent off against the Bulldogs, but he didn’t. Referee Steve Lyons made the correct decision under immense pressure, except he was completely wrong. Confused? So you should be. This is the problem.

In the 70th minute of the Panthers win over the Bulldogs on Monday night Civoniceva belted Gary Warburton into the middle of next week. Warburton knelt on the ANZ Stadium turf afterward trying to work out if he’d been hit by a swinging arm or a semi-trailer.

Civoniceva protested that he was 6 foot 4 inches tall and that had contributed to him hitting Warburton high.

But Petero, that is a problem for you, not those who run at you. I’m sure it was all part of a plea to avoid what he felt was inevitably coming his way. Who could blame him? Their was only 10-minutes to go in the match and the scores were locked at 18-all.

Still, despite all of this, I still believe he shouldn’t have been given his marching orders.

Consistency is something the NRL’s referees hope to deliver, but rarely do. In this case that has been made abundantly clear.

Civoniceva is the only man to have been sent off this season. Was his crime greater than any others we’ve seen this season? Definitely not.

If Civoniceva deserved to be ordered from the field, so did Manly forward Glenn Stewart for elbowing Roosters five-eighth Braith Anasta in the head, on Sunday afternoon.

Stewart was charged with a grade five strike on Anasta and will spend the next four weeks on the sidelines after entering an early guilty plea, yet stayed on the field.

Civoniceva is looking at a two week ban for a grade three reckless high tackle.

I’m not great at maths, but doesn’t it seem strange that a man who’ll miss the next four weeks stayed on the field, while someone who has been offered a two match ban didn’t?

It does to me.

I’ve heard the theory that the referees were under pressure to act tough after being criticised for letting Stewart stay on the field. I don’t subscribe to this theory. Civoniceva wasn’t a scapegoat. He was instead the victim of one of the most frustrating aspects of the NRL, a lack of consistency.

All a fan can ask for is consistency in the decision making process, but we rarely see it.

Civoniceva’s tackle was far from the most damaging we’ve seen this year, yet he’s the first person to be sent off this season.

In some strange way referee Lyons has done Civoniceva a favour.

When the charge sheet dropped into my inbox yesterday, you had to read the fine print.

Civoniceva had been given a 10-point discount for being sent off. It took his suspension, with an early guilty plea, down from a three match ban to two.

That will be vital as Penrith tries to navigate the finals series this year.

The big prop deserves to be suspended for the tackle, despite the strangely held belief that because he’s a good guy (and he genuinely is one of the nicest individuals you will ever meet) he should get off free of charge.

But sent off? Given what we’ve seen so far this season, I don’t think so.

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The Crowd Says:

2010-09-03T06:40:19+00:00

Dean - Surry Hills

Guest


Strucy summed up part of the problem - the team that Petro may have dissadvantaged through a reckless tackle receives little compensation for the offence, other than the immediate penalty awarded - whilst teams that are yet to play the Panthers over the next two games somehow receive full reward with Petro unable to compete for the entire match whilst he is suspended. Where is the justice in this case and most others? How about if Petro was also banned from playing against The Bulldogs in his next two games - regardless if he moved to another club? The State of Origin could possibly be looked at differently with players suspended from both future State of Origin and International fixtures when found guilty - though not from their local club fixtures - and vice-versa.

2010-09-01T15:39:13+00:00

Abdul

Guest


Even nice guys make mistakes and Petero's "coathanger" was executed almost to perfection - steady yourself, line the victim up, stiffen the arm and time the swing to land the blow to the head just as the player reaches you. I say it was executed almost to perfection because if Petero had really let fly he would have decapitated the unfortunate Bulldog player. I can only put it down to a brain snap, because as you say Luke, Petero plays the game hard but is not considered a "dirty" player. If you consider his one brain snap out of all the games he has played, to the error rate of the referees, touch judges and especially the video refs, there is no comparison. It has gotten to the stage where I believe the video ref has become a waste of time. He is only there so that the replay screen sponsor gets as much exposure as possible.The referees are not a protected species and if they make a truly terrible decision, then they should be criricised for it, just as a player is critciised if he has a shocker. But to be fair to the referees, a lot of criticism aimed at them is pure nit-picking and supporter bias. Unfortunately, the fastest growing group of critics comes from people betting on the game. But games being sponsored by legalised gambling is a topic for another day, and dafe I say it, a scandal waiting to happen.

2010-09-01T05:10:32+00:00

Sam H

Guest


We all want consitency, but let's not have it at the expense of getting the calls right. Petero's hit was a clear send off. Feet planted, fist clenched, swinging arm to the chin. If there were 9 other similar or worse tackles this year that didn't result in send offs, the refs got it wrong 9 times and right once. Not great, but better than getting it wrong every time.

2010-09-01T02:44:45+00:00

Gareth

Guest


The only issue with consistency above all else is that it paves the way to justify getting it wrong just because it's been gotten wrong a dozen times prior and then the question becomes, at what point do we start getting it right again? I'm all for major changes to the rules coming in at the beginning of a season, like the cornerpost ruling should have been , but I don't know if I'm comfortable with the idea of existing rules falling by the wayside for any length of time. Within the context of a single game I agree that consistency is probably the primary goal, but what if the response to Parramatta's match winning forward pass against Manly in Round Two set a precedent that forward passes were okay? As it stands, it made up for a couple of questionable tries from the Sea Eagles. Who knows? Petero's send-off maybe have been an attempt to even things up after a very ordinary decision to award a try to Waterhouse without consulting the video ref. Potentially, Glenn Stewart was allowed to stay on because the referees knew they'd made a blunder when missing obstruction on Matai in the scoring of a Roosters try.

2010-09-01T02:30:41+00:00

Willy

Guest


Unlike most people, I reckon the NRL referees do a reasonably good job. And they do it under the pressure of knowing 400 blowhard dickheads on TV and radio will get stuck into them for a week if they get something wrong. Sure there have been some incorrect decisions, but that will always be the case. At the end of the day, there's not too much doubt that the best eight teams will play out the Finals. So things can't be as bad as they seem.

2010-09-01T01:47:27+00:00

Strucy

Guest


I like the temporary suspension idea. If a referee deems a foul bad enough to warrant the player going on report, they are basically saying that they think that there would be a case to answer for at the judiciary. At the moment, a player can be placed on report in the 3rd minute of the game for a spear tackle for example, play the next 77 minutes of the match then front the judiciary after the game and cop a 6 week ban with no detriment to his team during the match in which the foul was committed. If every foul that warranted being placed on report was then "yellow carded" and being yellow carded meant that that player had to be replaced for a minimum of 10 minutes, this would mean using one interchange immediately and then a second interchange to bring that player back on to the field. This would disrupt a teams game plan with possible player positional changes to cover for the player forced to interchange as well as forwards having to stay on the field longer due to losing essentially 2 interchanges. Maybe then we would see some effects instantly by a player being placed on report without having to be a send-off. Then again, maybe referees will just stop putting players on report. Thank you for reading my opinion and I'd love your feedback.

2010-08-31T23:50:01+00:00

Jeff

Guest


agreed. they are damned if the do and damned if they don't. In every game that they ref, there is 50% people will be with EACH decision and 50% against. You only have to listen to the commentators, do they always agree which way the decision should go -- and if they can't agree with the technology art their fingertips (and expertise on the game) what chance does the guy in the middle have????. on Monday night we had three commentators saying it was worthy of a send of and others saying it wasn't, that was 15 minutes after the event.

2010-08-31T23:41:53+00:00

Ken

Guest


What they are paid? Not sure but I know that the top tier are professional and don't have 'day' jobs.

2010-08-31T23:37:40+00:00

M.O.C.

Roar Guru


I wonder, after reading fedup's comments what refs are actually paid? - do they have full-time jobs, if not, what do they do during the working week? - perhaps the NRL should pump a bit of cash into the pockets of some good refs in the hope of making this profession more feasable to young refs or better-yet, retired (but obviously fit) football players - surely the most well paid player on the field has less impact on the game than the ref (for good and bad reasons!) I believe that one of the new refs used to play fullback in the NRL and has since taken up refereeing - considering the likes of Langer and Toovey can spend 50% of the game on the field coaching their sides while "running water", maybe they would make good refs - this might be a good career option for ex-players (imagine General Patton as a ref next year).

2010-08-31T23:16:07+00:00

ptovey01

Roar Pro


I agree with Ken, this tackle deserved to be sent off. It was straight up and down a swinging arm to the head. He had alot of time to adjust himself, but didn't. Whilst he is noted a s a good guy, you need to ask why his tackle was so bad in this instance as compared to the thousand odd that he has made in previous games this year. Being 6Ft 4ins hasn't affected him all year so this excuse doesn't float with me. In saying that his was not the worst of the season and hopefully now that Finch has left the building the refs will get a boss who can guide them in a new direction. I would like to see a temporary suspension brought in much like it has been for Rugby. Whilst the full send off is still available, the yellow card (10 mins) allowsthe referee more options and would hopefully give them more consistency should they apply it well.

2010-08-31T23:14:51+00:00

M.O.C.

Roar Guru


Yes Civoniceva should have been sent, but so too should countless others this season for identical and worse infringements including as Tom said, deliberate punches and very well talked about headbutts. The refs are the real problem, they take on a job which requires tough calls but then refuse to make them when required. They rely far too much on video ref calls for trys and trust touch judge calls over their own during play which often results in poor calls for things like forward passes, late hits etc. The problem is that because the refs are so scared to make tough calls, when they finally do make one it has a massive effect on the entire competition - because of the uproar of Stewart being allowed to play on after his hit on Anasta this alomost guarenteed the next high shot in teh very next game would be sent regardless of severity. It is impossible to believe that there has only been one send-off offence this year - that just says the refs are scared of making tough calls - if the refs policed ALL rules thouroughly and consistently , the overall standard of play would have to improve as coachs would not tolerate their players letting the side down for stupid things like fighting and high-shots - this would therefore improve the overall quality of the play for both the players and spectators. Please refs, for the good of the game, use the rule book consistently and correctly - don't pick and choose the rules on a game to game basis , grow a thick skin and back your knowledge of the game, ignore the ramblings of Phil Gould on how the game should be tough like in the old days, and if you find this job too difficult please resign your post and find a new job that requires less responsibility.

2010-08-31T23:11:53+00:00

fedup

Guest


This article is the very problem with refereeing in general. If a mistake is made we jump on it with fury, if it is repeated it is a sign of grandiose incompetence that is a blight on the game, if it isn't repeated then loud cries of inconsistency ring out and it is a blight on the game. I'm baffled that the lowest paid guy on the field is expected to be the most perfect.

2010-08-31T22:01:04+00:00

Ken

Guest


In the same vein of your article I think you're right but you're also wrong... Yes, there is huge blurring of where the boundary of a send-off offence is - I think Stewart and others over the course of the year should have had an early shower as well and I don't profess to understand why they didn't. However, while the weight of history says that this is not his usual go, Civoniceva's tackle was easily the most straightforward send-off offence I've seen in years. He stood planted, lined the bloke up and swung his arm heavily into the other guys chin - it wasn't a lazy arm as the guy wrongfooted him or a result of the other bloke falling quickly. If there is only 1 send-off this year (and I'm not saying I agree with that) it's fair enough that it's that one.

2010-08-31T19:50:06+00:00

Tom

Guest


I've always wondered why punching someone isn't seen as a more serious offence. James Tamou of the Cowboys copped two weeks for hitting a bloke in the back of the head. Civo and Glenn Stewart's tackles were crude, but most probably stemming from a miscalculation rather than intent to cause injury. Whichever way you cut it, hitting someone in the back of the head has nothing to do with the game itself.

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