Tanner tells it like it is

By Michael Turner / Roar Pro

Football player agent Chris Tanner is a real footballing entrepreneur. His strong views and opinions on the game are often taken not on perception, yet more on his actual experience within the organisation and the grassroots level.

With his expertise ranging from event management, to the development of the many youth internationals all around the world, he is one person who you can trust to have the correct facts on the problems that plight the local game.

Despite his support for the rival Qatar 2022 World Cup bid, it’s hard to find anything to hold against Mr Tanner, as his views on the A-League and his ideas for improvement herald missed opportunities made by the FFA. It’s something football fans have to admit; mistakes have been made, and Tanner makes note of them, and knows how to fix them in this exclusive interview.

Michael Turner: Let’s start with the A-League. We have commenced the dubbed ‘6th Edition’ of the competition in clouds of controversy. Do you think that it has become better as the years progress?
Chris Tanner: No I don’t. The original model was flawed from day one. The bar was set too high and most clubs have not reached it. There was not enough clubs, and not enough markets. The Crawford Report was ignored. Talented players were forced back to state league as clubs paid top money for some players who didn’t deserve it, leaving little money to fill up the rest of their rosters with average players who are now gone from the league. The NYL is ineffective as far as development goes – we need a reserve grade as a bridge between A-League and NYL, playing in the state leagues … just like in most European countries.

Michael Turner: It is known that you disagree with some of the administration aspects of the league in relation to the FFA. What do you believe is the problem with the way the league is run?
Chris Tanner: The needs of the participating clubs and the overall needs of the game are ignored. A-League clubs struggle to engage the community because they aren’t shown how. I believe the Mariners are the best at this.

Michael Turner: If you were put in charge of the A-League taskforce, what ideas and approaches would you propose to your team?
Chris Tanner: Rebuild it with as little disruption as possible. It has to be driven from the ground up, with broad-based membership strategies combined with the commercial drive of majority shareholders.

Michael Turner: Your Western Sydney A-League entity was trumped by one that was less than one month old, whereas your bid was far more advanced in organisation. What was the reasoning given by the FFA for its snub?
Chris Tanner: Who knows? It’s the biggest scandal to befall the current organisation. Now, a former senior FFA staffer says that “the licence did not go to the most deserving” … we all knew that. Now, Sydney Rovers are reported to be struggling. Our model was the best, and is still active. We hope to speak to Mr. Lowy soon, to see if we can pick up where we left off.

Michael Turner: You were involved with bringing major English Premier League club Everton FC to Australia. What exactly was your role in this tour?
Chris Tanner: Not a major role really. We consulted on a number of things that had to be done. I understand the tour promoters suffered heavy losses. We proposed a number of exciting strategies, which they ignored.

Michael Turner: Do you think that tours like this are important to the growth of football in Australia, and do you think that more like this will occur in the future?
Chris Tanner: They can be … if they are done properly, that’s the key. It’s not about relying on big names and brands to sell tickets … like A-League clubs, you still have to engage the community … it’s called marketing.

Michael Turner: The view has been shared that the game would have been better received at the Sydney Football Stadium, with a capacity crowd. What is your view on that issue?
Chris Tanner: Rubbish. ANZ Stadium is the best facility in the country by a long way. The Everton game should have had a crowd of 50,000 plus … you can’t do that anywhere else in Sydney. The fact that the potential of the event was not realised on that occasion is not a reason to go to the tired old SFS.

Michael Turner: Back in 2003, controversial player agent Bernie Mandic released a small slur against you in an interview to ‘The Age’. “He’s very proud of the fact that he’s a licensed players’ agent and I’m not. He’s on the Soccer Australia Licensed Agents website and the FIFA website.” This is a long past issue, but what is your stance on unlicensed player agents?
Chris Tanner: Ah yes … the Mandic debate. You can represent players without a licence as long as FIFA regulations are observed. In most instances they are not. The unlicensed guys that ignore FIFA regulations are putting their clients’ careers at risk. They cannot help them through legal channels.

Michael Turner: Are you and Mandic back on level terms?
Chris Tanner: We liaise on issues occasionally. I have no problem with Bernie, and I think at the time he was misinformed about issues concerning he and I.

Michael Turner: Your Company, ‘Zenith Sports and Event Management’ deals with events, however it also states you deal with players as their agent. As a licensed player agent by FIFA, how many players have you sent in to the system? Any high achievers?
Chris Tanner: Mate, truly I have lost count. We do a lot for young players who are prepared to listen, work hard, and be patient. These days, young players are focussing on the far distant future and their Wembley appearances, and not tomorrow’s training session. The high achievers are the ones who want to follow the correct path … like our client Steven Lustica for example. Steven is one of many youth internationals on our books. We have Aussie, Belgian, Emirati, English, Saudi Arabian and numerous African youth internationals on our books.

Michael Turner: What are your thoughts on Football NSW’s Project 22?
Chris Tanner: Great move. Football NSW is the country’s leader in football management innovation. They leave FFA for dead.

Michael Turner: Do you think it makes it easier for a player to enter the system, so-to-speak?
Chris Tanner: No. But it makes it easier for the system to identify them.

Michael Turner: It is now known that you are working with the Qatari Bid Team for the 2022 World Cup. Since you are bidding against the Australian bid, what is your view on local bid?
Chris Tanner: We are not working with them … just supporting them as we believe the Qatar bid is the best for football in Asia, and globally as well. The local bid is unfortunately tarnished with controversy. We are a racist nation and I don’t think that will go over with football as easy as it did with the Olympics. We also don’t have the infrastructure for a tournament of that size, nor do we need a 40,000 seat stadium in Newcastle.

Michael Turner: Do you believe that the issues the Australian bid has come against have sufficiently jeopardised the bid, to rule it out? (The AFL, the bribe controversy)
Chris Tanner: I hope so.

Michael Turner: The Qatari bid team has taken in the basic idea that ‘if South Africa can do it, so can we’. Do you believe that the Qataris have a strong bid assembled?
Chris Tanner: What we saw of it on my recent trip tells me they can host a sensational World Cup. Their bid will be a glowing example of stadia technology.

Michael Turner: Sepp Blatter officially endorsed the Qatari bid, “The Arabic world deserves a World Cup. They have 22 countries and have not had any opportunity to organise the tournament” before going on to praise the country’s progress. As Blatter has also endorsed many of the other 2022 and 2018 bids, what is the credibility of his statement?
Chris Tanner: He’s 110% correct regarding the Arab world. Football has the opportunity to build bridges between our societies, and I believe FIFA should look at this.

Michael Turner: Footballing pundits have previously stated that the issues of Israel and alcohol will render the bid obsolete; however the obvious enthusiasm shown by the Qatari government has been shown by its ability to overlook these issues in order to host the competition. Do you believe things like these will be some of the major stumbling blocks?
Chris Tanner: No, I had plenty to drink in Dubai last month. Our ignorance makes us presume that our Arab brothers are intolerant. It is not the case.

Michael Turner: One other issue that will cause the bid team some problems is the weather in Qatar. In order to overcome this, it has been stated that a Qatari World Cup would be ambitiously staged indoors, with huge, high tech state of the art air conditioned stadia, to emulate the conditions of a European spring. Is this the approach the bid team will be taking?
Chris Tanner: I have seen plans for magnificent stadia. I sincerely hope they get the nod.

Michael Turner: Slightly off topic now, almost 20 years ago, you were the Marketing Manager of the now defunct NRL entity the ‘North Sydney Bears’. Do you think that it is great that the side will possibly be re-entering the competition as the ‘Central Coast Bears’?
Chris Tanner: We all live in hope on this one, as you are always a Bears fan, and I was lucky enough to work there, as my brother and father were players there. It’s about tradition … FFA please note.

Michael Turner: Mr Tanner, Thank you for your time.
Chris Tanner: You are welcome.

The Crowd Says:

2022-09-04T14:14:35+00:00

Sam

Guest


Sounds like she might be Turner's Mum.

2012-03-05T09:56:01+00:00

ftt

Guest


Nothing bad to say about a racist homophobe? RT @ChrisTannerZSEM: @Elia_Santoro @FFDU @clivefpalmer 5 mins w/ Buckley, Lowy & Dudley Do-Right & I'd have them out back door (where I hear Duddles likes it) And Tanner on Frank Lowy: @Elia_Santoro I don't speak Hebrew

2010-10-27T10:32:36+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


Video of the full interview with The Kaiser: http://www.foxsports.com.au/football/world-cup-bid/franz-beckenbauer-backs-australias-bid-to-host-2022-fifa-world-cup-says-socceroos-set-to-make-splash-on-world-soccer-stage/story-fn3g9e47-1225943732217 And, he provides glowing praise for our National team manager, Holger Osieck.

2010-10-27T10:18:12+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


As some of our rival bidders for 2022 look shaky, it was business as usual on the campaign trail yesterday for Ben Buckley, CEO of the FFA, who spoke at the International Football Arena conference in Zurich. And, we've always known that we had strong support from one of the world's best ever players and one of the most influential members of the FIFA Executive Committee ... der Kaiser, and, in an interview with Fox Sports, Franz Beckenbauer has reaffirmed his support for Australia's hosting of the 2022 FIFA WC, saying: "Australia was a perfect host for the Olympics. They know how to handle these big events. The football World Cup - it's even bigger than the Olympics because it's more cities, it's more spectacular than the Olympics. There is no doubt that Australia can host the World Cup and organise the World Cup." It's a tough competition, but Australia, I think, has a good chance to host the World Cup. I hope so." Beckenbauer insisted Australia's 2022 campaign was unaffected by bid bribery scandal. "I think the Australian bidding process is in a very good way," he added. Source: http://www.worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33843

2010-10-16T05:28:40+00:00

CT

Guest


Not one person at Rovers had experience in the business of football. Lawyers, ad men, shopping centre managers ... so what ? A member of their group tricked a member of our team into giving them a copy of OUR PLAN, by purporting to still be involved with another club that wanted to work with us. They never submitted a bid. They never had a plan, or money, or anyhting. Karma then did its stuff, and we are where we are today. Now we are not bitter any more, because we want to help FFA and Sydney, by making this second team happen. The credentials and FOOTBALL EXPERIENCE of our team was well known. Like I said to one FFA director who was incensed with what happened, and supported us ... "just because you can run a shopping centre or an ad agency, doesn't mean you can run a football club" Guys ... I must leave this thread now. I appreciate all of the sensible commentary, and the off-forum e-mails by those who wanted to treat us seriously. If we do get up, make yourself known, and you can be my guest at ANZ any time. CT

2010-10-16T02:04:26+00:00

jimbo

Roar Guru


Australia is racist. The biggest selling stories in the press are about boat people and the biggest selling stories on the back page of newspapers are Ethnic Soccer Hooligan Violence stories. The attacks on football as being foreign and an inferior sport are very much based on racism.

2010-10-16T01:57:12+00:00

The Special One

Guest


I agree with Chris here. The World CUp will make soccer bigger in Australia, but its not the A-league that will benefit.

2010-10-16T01:37:30+00:00

Midfielder

Guest


Chris Thanks for your post... I to believed FFA could have done better in the teams in the A-League ... but I do not share with you the degree of difference a change in the mix would make... My contention has been that many of those especially at SFC did not know how to connect to the football family... Some clubs did the Mariners, AU, I think Fury ... Glory always but FFA chased Glory fans away with flag and behavior rules at the shed. MV have been outstanding in building a brand.... Sydney, Newcastle [but this has changed] Gold Coast & Brisbane have been hopeless. My reading of the tea leafs is Sydney is Australia's media capital and arguably the most open to football given the number of park players we have... SFS in Hal 1 to 4... were t soooooooo bad ... wrong place wrong image ...WS is essential ... FFA need to get the right people ... don't know you Chris so unsure if you are that person or represent that group... but to unite the 8 former NSL teams, the five associations and NSW Football Federation... everybody knows this making it happen is going to need a very special person / group... Like you Rovers have stated all this ... it is a matter as to who has the money and the team to do it... The Rovers on paper had the team but not the money... If Football gets Sydney right IMO the rest will follow ...get Sydney wrong which has been the case to date and it hurts and hurts and is allowing other codes to get ready...If I was running FFA I would have moved SFC years ago to a better location... Again thanks for your thoughts...

2010-10-15T23:50:56+00:00

CT

Guest


Not working against Australia's bid ... just supporting one that I think is better for my business, and the game. Part of the A-League's problem, is that a lot of football fans prefer to "spend their football time each week" on better football ... EPL, La Liga, etc. They'll all go to the WC game at ANZ Stadium, but when the WC has left town, will they go to A-League ? ... no, they'll go back to their TVs and watch Man U, Arsenal and Chelsea. The WC will not help the A-League in my opinion.

2010-10-15T23:14:42+00:00

Sam

Guest


You mean interviewee, or subject, Michael Turner was the 'interviewer'.

2010-10-15T22:59:09+00:00

punter

Guest


Hi Chris I too like your ideas on the A-League, so kudos there. But it's WC bid where you lose me. Firstly with comments like the 12K crowds in Townsville & then as MF asked, running a bid to get a club in the A-League & then in a wc bid that would oppose our wc bid & hence give the sport in this country a massive boast. Let me tell you of the Qatar bid. Germany 06, I was there, best sporting event of my life. SA 10 Wanted to go, but never made it Brazil 14 already saving for it Europe 18 count me in Qatar 22, not interested.

2010-10-15T22:52:48+00:00

CT

Guest


cheers mate

2010-10-15T22:50:09+00:00

CT

Guest


Qatar's stadia will be used by the entire GCC. I am sure NZ or Indonesia won't use Townsville Stadium ... but they may visit as an "away team"

2010-10-15T22:17:53+00:00

Andyroo

Guest


Thanks Chris I actually like some of your ideas so it's nice to hear from someone who actually has ideas and isn't just beeing negative. You clearly care and that gives you more credibility for mine.

2010-10-15T21:30:54+00:00

CT

Guest


Unifying the tribes, along with the associations is a part of our plan Midfiedler, and a lot of it is/was already done. FFA didn't seem to care about this important part of our bid. Since we saw it as one of the most important aspects of what was wrong with Sydney FC's existence, we were disappoiinted. Homebush can work, we know this. As for WC positives and negatives, I tend to sway in the opposite direction. I really think it can hurt us, plus the commercial benefits for us (ZSEM) are far more apparent if Qatar gets the nod. As far as fixing the A-League I cannot refer to your scales as I would change lots of things. There should have been more teams from the start, Townsville and Wollongong should have been there at the start in a league where the capitalisation bar was a bit lower. We got O'Neill's "rugby model". Too many good players were locked out, and too many mediocre players were allowed in. The salary cap should be abolished, and all club's wage budgets should be approved by FFA and accompanied by bank guarantee. FFA pay wages, and invoice the clubs. Matt Carroll said "the cap is not about evening out the competition, it's about protecting the clubs from themselves" .... this is not the case. More centralised marketing, but less "protected" FFA sponsors. The Reebok deal is ludicrous. I could go on ... but I fell asleep after the spaghetti bake, and I have to get to Taekwondo. Enjoy your weekend's football. C'mon Arsenal.

2010-10-15T10:46:24+00:00

Mister Football

Guest


Interesting link - looks like you are doing your job well. But this is one thing I don't quite understand (and I come to this question as primarily an AFL fan): how can you be keen to take over an A-League club on the one hand, but you are working against the one thing that might actually give the league the sort of leg-up unimaginable by any other means.

2010-10-15T10:20:46+00:00

CT

Guest


will come back to you after my spaghetti bake Midfielder

2010-10-15T10:20:03+00:00

CT

Guest


http://worldfootballinsider.com/Story.aspx?id=33810

2010-10-15T08:05:43+00:00

Midfielder

Guest


CT Thank you for posting... Are you saying a broad based national domestic competition is important for Footballs development ..... and in your opinion the existing FFA structure / management / design of the A-League is not the best model nor do FFA use the best management practices ..... on a scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being the top and 1 being the bottom... secondly briefly what would you change and where do you think you would lift it to. I actually support the use of Homebush if the owner could unite the WS tribes and believe 40 & 50 K crowds could be the norm... On the WC bid there are always risks but for me the positives that could come outweigh by a long way the negatives that may come.

2010-10-15T06:46:35+00:00

Ben of Phnom Penh

Guest


part of the reason the games looked hald full was the fact that many of the South Africans turned up at the last minute, failing to account for the time to get through security etc. At most of the games I went to the crowd reached its capacity at about the 30 minute mark of the game.

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