Who is Australia’s greatest ever Socceroo?

By John Davidson / Roar Guru

Australian football fans have the tough choice of helping to decide our greatest ever footballer.

At a time when the Australian football family is under-siege with A-League dramas, finally some good, positive debate.

The poll is being run by the Johnny Warren Football Foundation and members of the public can have their say for who should be honoured. Public voting will be combined with the decisions of a judging panel on a 50/50 basis to determine the winners, with voting close on June 22.

The judging panel includes the likes of Les Murray, Andy Harper, Craig Foster, Anthony LaPaglia, George Negus, Moya Dodd, Jack Reilly and Michael Cockerill.

There’s no easy answers among choosing the best Socceroo team ever. It’s very difficult to decide on players when you have never seen them player before, like Marston and Date, and to compare eras. But here’s my two cents, and the reasons for them:

GOALKEEPER:
Mark Schwarzer – Bosnich may have been more talented, and Ron Corry and Jim Fraser have had great careers as both players and coaches, but for me it has to be Mark Schwarzer. His longevity, his remarkably consistent career in the top flight in both England and Germany, and his fantastic Australian debut against Canada in the ’94 World Cup cannot be forgotten. And nor can his penalty saves against Uruguay in 2005.

DEFENDERS:
Joe Marston – A pioneer for Australians playing in England, a long-serving career with the Socceroos and ex-NSW State League and national team coach. Joe has done it all, and he is also a true gentleman and legend of our sport.

Alex Tobin – 87 games for the Socceroos, many as captain, says it all. So does his haul of 522 senior games in Australia, three NSL championships with Adelaide City and the high esteem he is held in, evident of the PFA Medal being named after him.

Peter Wilson – An enigma, Wilson was born in England but moved to Australia at 22. He had a long and prolific career in the NSL and with the Socceroos, with the highlight for the dominant sweeper coming as captain for Australia at the 1974 World Cup.

Lucas Neill – A tough choice between Lucas and Craig Moore, but Lucas just gets the nod. What a captain, a phenomenon at the 2006 World Cup and a proud leader.

MIDFIELDERS:
Johnny Warren – Has anyone ever given more to the beautiful game as a player, coach, ambassador, media pundit or spokesperson in Australia? I don’t think so.

Tim Cahill – This man has carried the Socceroos in recent years. He scores goals for Australia for fun, and has conquered the brutal English Premier League. Such an inspirational figure.

Ned Zelic – Deciding between the immensely talented but injury-prone Paul Okon and the freakish but more temperamental Ned Zelic is near impossible, but Zelic just edges it. What a player, a legend in the Bundesliga and a fantastic Socceroo (though primarily in defence). His goal against Holland in 1991 will live long in the memory.

STRIKERS:
Mark Viduka – You just can’t go past the V-Bomber. A freakish teenager, he wowed crowds in Australia, Croatia, Scotland and England. His goal-scoring record for the Socceroos may not have matched his club feats, but this ignores the fact that often he was a lone soul up front for Australia. Such skill and impressive technique for a big man who could virtually do it all.

Harry Kewell – Another boy wonder turned English Premier League star. ‘H’ cops a lot of criticism but he has delivered for Australia time and time again – against Iran in 1997, against Croatia in 2006 etc etc. He’s still doing the business for the Socceroos (see the recent Saudi Arabia friendly) and had a good debut A-League season with the Victory.

Reg Date – Some might be saying, Reg who? To those I would say, do your research. Date was a goal-scoring machine, a fearsome striker with a ridiculously powerful shot. My recent deceased grandfather told me a story about once seeing Date play, and with one of his goals the goalkeeper ended up in the back of the net with the ball.

Date has been termed as the ‘Bradman of Australian Soccer’ by some, and to his contemporary Joe Marston he the best Australian player he ever played with or against: ”Great player. Great bloke. But boy he could drink. The selectors, they never liked Reggie. He was too much of a larrikin. They couldn’t handle him.”

Date just makes it front of fellow Novocastrian Ray Baartz, perhaps our most skilful Socceroo ever, whose career was tragically cut short in his prime.

Notable mentions go to players like Baartz, Moore, Okon and Frank Farina for missing the cut. Also somewhat surprising that Craig Johnston was left off the nominees list. I will do my picks on the greatest ever coach, Matilda and overall player another time.

More importantly, who would you choose?

There are 72 nominees to choose from, and they have been chosen from a set criteria. For the greatest ever team, it is between

GOALKEEPERS
Ron Lord
Ron Corry
Jim Fraser
Mark Bosnich
Mark Scwharzer

DEFENDERS
George Keith
Doug Utjesenovic
Alan Davidson
Tony Vidmar
Luke Wilkshire
Paul Okon
Joe Marston
Manfred Schaeffer
John Watkiss
Peter Wilson
Charlie Yankos
Milan Ivanovic
Alex Tobin
Ned Zelic
Craig Moore
Lucas Neill
Col Curran
Harry Williams
Jim Tansey
Stan Lazaridis
Scott Chipperfield

MIDFIELDERS
Jimmy Rooney
Johnny Warren
Murray Barnes
Paul Wade
Brett Emerton
Jimmy McKay
Paul Okon
Vince Grella
Josip Skoko
Jason Culina
Ned Zelic
Tim Cahill
Les Scheinflug
Ray Richards
Oscar Crino
Robbie Slater
Mark Bresciano

STRIKERS
Atti Abonyi
Frank Farina
Aurelio Vidmar
Tim Cahill
Adrian Alston
Ray Baartz
John Kosmina
Graham Arnold
Mark Viduka
Branko Buljevic
David Mitchell
Eddie Krncevic
Harry Kewell
John Aloisi
Reg Date
John Watkiss

For the greatest ever coach, it is between:

Joe Vlasits
Rale Rasic
Frank Arok
Eddie Thomson
Terry Venables
Frank Farina
Guus Hiddink
Pim Verbeek

For the greatest ever female player, it is between:

Julie Dolan
Julie Murray
Cheryl Salisbury
Jo Peters
Joanne Millman
Collette McCallum
Alison Foreman
Heather Garriock
Lisa De Vanna
Melissa Barbieri

Who do you choose, Roarers?

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The Crowd Says:

2015-09-12T22:54:14+00:00

Ernie

Guest


Reg Date was the best foot baller that ever played in Australia. he was in aclass of his own.

2012-05-17T23:22:49+00:00

Branko

Guest


Purely on players I have seen with my own eyes on a regular basis - Attila Abonyi is, was, and will forever be my football hero. If your out there Atti - thankyou.

2012-04-15T23:07:25+00:00

Happy Hooker

Guest


Who cares?

2012-04-15T14:00:42+00:00

Bondy

Guest


I've assesed what I can. Bosnich Lazaridis Ivanovic Moore Chipperfield Zelic Warren Skoko Viduka Kewell Coach Rale Rasic Female Murray / Salisbury

2012-04-14T09:47:49+00:00

Johnno

Guest


We talk about greatest ever Australian soccer players or soccer's. And i think 2 names also have to be thrown into the hat. Craig Johnston, and Joseph Simunic. Craig Johnston was aussie man but born in south africa. The family moved back to newcastle Australia when he was a young child. What allayers criag johnston was at Liverpool in the UK, won a FA cup i think he even scored in a FA cup final. He would of represented Australia but chose to try his luck for the england national team, he made the England under -21 team. Or had a falling out with soccer management i don't know the full history. But Craig Johnson would have to go close to making the greatest ever Socceroo team. He always regretted he said often if he could change history he would of loved to of played for the soccerroos. As would Joseph Simunic, who was born in Canberra but chose to play for Croatia. He was in my mind better than both Lucas Neil, Craig Moore, and Tony Vidmar, a real world class defender. Still can't believe Kalac did not make the list of greets ever soccer keepers. He did play for AC Milan he was a towering tall keeper just had that shocker vs Croatia at would cup 2006. And lubjo Milocivic had the talent to be a great defender for the soccer's but wasn;t able to progress for one reasons or another.

2012-04-14T01:54:49+00:00

Evan Askew

Guest


I think he did make it in Europe in Cyprus. Though back then I would have rated the local NSL a better comp than the Cyprus league. Now though with recent runs in the Champions league it is not so cut and dried.

2012-04-13T22:39:25+00:00

Qantas supports Australian Football

Guest


Sorry this is too hard for me---I could never choose a best 11 out of these legendary names not even a best ever player. I was lucky enough to see Joe Masdon and Johnny Warren playing against each other in a semi final at Wentworth Park in Sydney back in the 60s, which will live forever with me in my memory. Those two legend Australian footballers may not rate as the best ever, but the best ever for inspiration I've seen in my life time. It's fitting to see now we have two Australian Football awards named after them. If only we can find an award for goal keeper Ron Lord to be named after---a legion of his generation as well.

2012-04-13T22:10:32+00:00

jbinnie

Guest


Stevo A good point, however it should be remembered that Jack was not actually regarded as the first choice goalkeeper at that time for, if memory serves me well, I think you will find Jimmy Fraser ,a self-employed worker, could not afford the time off to go to the World Cup.That's what makes the '74 Socceroos such an intriguing story,most ,if not all, were part-timers.jb

2012-04-13T22:02:51+00:00

jbinnie

Guest


Thanks Fuss. There are many wonderful tales about the part-time '74 Socceroos, for instance Manfred Schaeffer being a milkman , playing against his native German super stars (the eventual winners) but none is more "way out" than the background of defensive midfielder Ray Richards. Ray arrived in Australia to play with a Qld team called Latrobe around 1963/64 his preferred position being that of goalkeeper.Having watched the then club goalkeeper Horrie Clarke perform, and, being a young lad quick on his feet,Ray quickly became a central attacker where his body strength and shooting power made him an instant success as a leading goalscorer.When he moved to Sydney he was not an instant success until he teamed up with Rasic who saw a huge potential in him as a defensive midfielder.Ray went on to make this position his own in the Socceroo teams of the time his personal "Everest" being when facing Santos in a sell -out game in Sydney he is reported to have "marked" the great Pele out of the game. From Brisbane's first playboy "super star", (he drove a "gull wing" Mercedes sports car) to the blotting out of Pele and the World Cup finals in 74 in 11 years, the story is the stuff of which dreams are made. jb

2012-04-13T21:19:12+00:00

Stevo

Guest


Would like to have seen Jack Reilly in the list of goal keepers even if he is on the expert panel. Greatest players: can't go past Kewell, Dukes, Bozza for sheer international class. They could easily have been picks in other national squads (I think the poms were keen to get their hands on our Harry).

2012-04-13T14:53:09+00:00

Brian

Guest


Where is holman on the nominee list one of only 2 players with multiple world cup goals and our best current player. Greatest of all time is kewell greatest Oceania player of alcl time is winston rufer or karambeu

AUTHOR

2012-04-13T10:34:23+00:00

John Davidson

Roar Guru


Some excellent debate here. One note though, this is the criteria the JWFF is using: • The player must either have been born in Australia* or played for Australia; • Provided excellence on the national and/or international stage; • Longevity; • Contribution to Australian football or having left a positive imprint on the profile and growth of football in Australia.

2012-04-13T08:19:54+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


Johnno I was too young to appreciate Johnny Warren's football prowess, or any of the lads who played prior to 1977. Whilst I recall watching WC1974, I only remember the games & results. I cannot reconstruct any individual passages of play or recall episode of "individual brilliance" ... to use the words of my team's sweeper! I'm glad jb and a few others have provided us with their expert opinion on the lads, who were our Aussie football legends in the 60s & early 70s.

2012-04-13T08:15:35+00:00

Fussball ist unser leben

Roar Guru


striker You know me - I take nothing more seriously than analysis of football ... heck, I reckon I've already spent as much time ruminating over my UCL Fantasy Team as any of the 4 managers, who are actually involved next week! When choosing my "best ever Aussie playes" I've tried to load my team with players - in their correct positions - whom I consider the most technically proficient in the basics of the game: control, 1st touch, passing range, heading, ability to strike the ball, cross the ball, shield the ball. In my opinion, Timmy has technical deficiencies in many areas - particularly when we compare him with the 6 other lads I've picked in my team. PS: Oscar Crino is my boyhood hero. For me, he was Australia's Andreas Pirlo. I have no doubt, Crino would have made it in Europe if he had chosen football as his career.

2012-04-13T08:14:01+00:00

Roarchild

Guest


Bosnich (Schwarzer deserves it but I'm choosing the team I want to watch) Chipperfield Yankos Neil Davidson Zelic Matt McKay Okon Kewell Viduka Holminho -- Comment left via The Roar's iPhone app. Download The Roar's iPhone App in the App Store here.

2012-04-13T07:10:03+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


Best players ever from Aus, For me it is Kewell Dukes Bozza They are the only truly world class players we have produced.

2012-04-13T06:49:00+00:00

j binnie

Guest


Johnno - Having watched most of the players being nominated I would rate Johnny Warren well down the list of midfielders who have graced the Socceroo ranks. That does not mean he was not a good player by our standards but in truth Johnny did far more for the game AFTER he retired from the playing side of the game.What a lot of people don't realise is that by the time the 1974 World Cup Finals came around Johnny was nearing the end of his career and I would say that despite the injury he incurred in the first game Rasic's preferred midfield by that time was probably Rooney,Richards and Jimmy Mackay. Since then we have had players like Zelic,Okon, Bresciano and Grella who have all plied their trades in the top leagues of Europe,a height never achieved by any of the '74 midfielders. Pre- '74 ,and back nearer JW's prime career time, the best midfielder I saw playing was Ray Baartz who was a tremendous "strike" part of any team he played for.jb

2012-04-13T06:43:08+00:00

Andre Krueger

Guest


here is the voting from Germany ———Bosnich Marston—Wilson–Ivanovic–Curran Cahill——Richards—-Watkiss Date—–Baartz—–Kewell Coach --- Rale Rasic bench - Lord, Utjesenovic, Neill, Zelic, Rooney, Kosmina, Abonyi, I miss A.Quill and J.McNabb in that list. Also in goal I like T.Greedy and R.Zabica.

2012-04-13T06:43:06+00:00

Johnno

Guest


My team Spider Yes Spider Pete Wilson Neil Moore Chippers Zelic Grella Bresch Cahill Kewell V-bomber coach : Aussie Guss P.S And wasn't Robert Zabica as vitnage NSL as you can get great match mate at the river plate in 93 we almost beat Maradonna Argies coz of your keeping efforts that famous night had the match of your life mate.

2012-04-13T06:28:31+00:00

The Cattery

Roar Guru


This is my socceroos team, with the one qualifier - I am using only those players who have turned out for the A-League on at least one occassion (3-5-2): __________________Bozza __________________Zelic ____________Moore_____Poppa Emo______________Okon_________McKay ____________Skoko_____Corica ____________Aloisi______Kewell

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