Exclusive: Interview with the Wanderer's RBB

By Michael Turner / Roar Pro

Two nights ago we witnessed the shocking story of a football friendly gone wrong.

A small group of troublemakers causing chaos in a Sydney FC friendly match against Macarthur Rams brought the game into disrepute and let the media have a field day at the expense of the sport, and by extension the Western Sydney Wanderers’ support base.

Names have been thrown around the internet on various forums and on various outlets, but the main blame has been directed at the Wanderers’ Red and Black Bloc (RBB).

For those yet unaware the Red and Black Bloc is the active supporter group for the Western Sydney Wanderers.

Today we are lucky enough to catch up with the two spokespeople from the RBB, Matt Adamson and Sean Herrett.

In the light of last night’s event the media has been quick to point the finger at the RBB community. How has the response been as a result of the accusations?

MA: The general response of Wanderers supporters has been one of disgust, both at the events that transpired and their immediate association with our group. The incident at the Rams v SFC game, and its’ association with the RBB undermines everything we are trying to achieve by way of positive, passionate home end support. We are unanimous that a zero tolerance approach must be taken towards anti-social behaviour.

SH: We are disgusted and absolutely denounce these types of actions, and today our supporters group has unanimously denounced this behaviour as well. As far as we are concerned, this wasn’t the action of the RBB. It’s a couple of mindless fools off the street. We had RBB supporters in the Grandstand who witnessed the events. There was no problem with them. I can add, if it is found to be anyone from the RBB, they will be expelled immediately. Those actions don’t sit with our ethos. Our thoughts go out to the young boy, Max, who was injured.

The past few weeks it has been noted the RBB doing positive things in the community and has engaged very well with the local fans. How will this situation affect the group’s standing?

MA: If anything, there has been an overwhelming sentiment to redouble our efforts in providing an inclusive, family-friendly environment for football fans at Wanderers matches. Our group has worked hand in hand with the club all the way through the formation process and will continue to do so. Unfortunately initiatives that deliver positive social outcomes such as anti-bullying campaigns and schools ambassador programmes don’t seem to be deemed as newsworthy as an isolated incident involving a rogue group of thugs.

SH: Ultimately, people will judge us by our actions. Only last week we had kids chanting amongst us at the Blacktown City match. You would hope, well I know, that most people are intelligent enough to see that we are above these accusations. We have been working closely with the Club to date, and will continue to do so. As Matt said we have RBB supporters working hand in hand in community projects with the WSWFC with a school and bullied children program.

Many have noted that members on the WSF Forum discussed attending the match, and that a few stated they did attend. What role did these people have in the events two nights ago?

MA: Those who attended the match that I’ve spoken with watched on in disgust from the stands. They were justifiably disappointed.

SH: None what so ever. As I said earlier, they were there in the grandstands and no one has made any mention of them.

How has the response from the members of the RBB been on the forums?

MA: Overwhelming to say the least. Despite being in our formative stages, and thus having no “official” membership, there are a great number of people who genuinely feel a part of the RBB and are disgusted at what transpired at the Rams v SFC match.

SH: Utter disgust. Disgusted that people purporting to be Football supporters could undertake such heinous actions. What it has done is drawn a line in the sand though. We have no hesitation in outing anyone we believe are involved in this type of activity. it has been heartening to see the positive response from the group, the commitment to zero tolerance of any form of anti social or violent behaviour.

Recently a video has hit the internet detailing children chanting along with the RBB at the Blacktown City Friendly Match. What are the ideals of the RBB and how family-focussed does the group plan on being?

MA: We understand that active support is not for everyone but have always maintained that we are open to anybody who wishes to chant and sing in the home end. At present we are working on some songs/chants that we hope will have the whole stadium singing along. The ‘baby RBB’ videos were a great example of how persistence can overcome negative stereotypes and perceptions.

SH: We have a basic ethos. Be loud, be proud, be the best of what Active support can be. We are very family orientated. I have 5 children, many of our group are parents, mums and dads, coaches, teachers etc. Ultimately, we hope to involve the whole stadium in singing, something Australia has never seen before. To see the kids chanting is unbelievable.

Are you worried that the RBB’s reputation and status will be heavily affected by the media coverage on this event?

MA: Football in Australia is somewhat cursed by past perceptions and an apparent media bias against our code. While this does not in any way excuse what took place at the Rams v SFC match it does mean that football supporters groups such as ours will always come under a greater level of scrutiny and criticism. All we can do is keep trying to break those perceptions through positive action.

SH: I think most people have already realised it wasn’t the RBB, so no, not really. Unfortunately the media love to quickly jump on any negativity surrounding our sport.

What is the RBB’s stance on the culprits and the actions of the event? Is this behaviour that will be prevalent in the Wanderer’s home end?

MA:  We denounce any kind of anti-social behaviour, especially violence. People who act in such a way are not true football fans, rather they are selfish fools who misrepresent our sport as their excuse to indulge in some kind of macho thug fantasy. The Wanderers’ home end will be loud, we will be proud and we will not tolerate anyone who puts the enjoyment & safety of others at risk through their actions.

SH: These people need to be found and made an example of. It was just disgusting. No Football supporter would act like that. Of course our Home End won’t be like that. We will be loud, we will be proud. However we have zero tolerance for violent or anti social behaviour.

It is known that the RBB is in contact with the WSW Club. To what extent has this been and have discussions been held regarding this issue?

MA: Sean has handled all communications with the club today so I can’t speak about the incident at the Rams match, however I have been involved in other meetings where the club and the FFA have made their positions on active support and anti-social behaviour abundantly clear. These positions echo our own in that active support is fantastic but anti-social behaviour will be subject to zero tolerance.

SH: Both of us have had meetings with the WSW FC. We’ve also had Lyall Gorman and Rob Squillacioti (FFA) attend our supporters meeting’s. We have a very open dialogue and yes the events have been discussed, at length.

It has become apparent in the last few hours that culprits are members of the Sin City Crew, some of which broke off from Sydney FC to support Western Sydney FC. What is the RBB view of these defectors and are they a legitimate sub-group within?

MA:It’d be hypocritical of me to label an entire group by the actions of a handful of individuals who may or may not have been part of the group. That is exactly what certain media outlets have done to the RBB. I can’t point out strongly enough how unwelcome the individuals involved in the incident at the Rams v SFC game are.

SH: I think that’s drawing a long bow to say the culprits have been identified as SCC. As it stands no one know’s who they are (the culprits). No one has seen them at any games or been able to identify them amongst our supporters group. I have no view on anyone who ‘defects’ as you say. We have people who have come from a various array of backgrounds, support, clubs etc. Some have never supported an A League team, some have.

What action will the RBB take toward the Sin City Crew, or other members whose sole purpose is to incite violence and bring the sport into disrepute?

MA: Anybody who seeks to use the RBB and our sport to incite violence is not welcome. Aside from making our position clear that we do not want this kind of person at our matches or in any way associated with our group we can only have faith that the relevant authorities will utilise any evidence to pursue offenders to the full extent of the law.

SH: Again, it’s dangerous to make unfounded accusations. The Sin City Crew is apparently still alive and well in the Cove. So i think that line of questioning is provocative. I will say though that we have a zero tolerance policy on anti social, thuggish behaviour. If we identify anyone as such, they will be expelled. If we catch anyone in the act, they will be identified to the authorities. It is absolutely ZERO tolerance.

Word has leaked out that the RBB will be raising funds for the child affected at the match, and as a gesture of goodwill, using the funds to purchase either a Sydney FC membership or a Western Sydney Wanderers membership for the child. What has been the RBB response to this initiative?

MA: So far everyone who has responded to the idea is in full support of it. As a group we aim to draw people to our sport and our club, not to have the actions of a few rogue individuals push them away.

SH: Overwhelmingly positive. To think a young child has been injured by simply going to the Football just makes us sick. We only hope that young Max isn’t put off coming to another game.

And on that topic are there any more community driven initiatives being put into action by the RBB?

MA:Several ideas for charity and community events and initiatives have been in discussion for some time, both working with the Western Sydney Wanderers club and independently on behalf of the RBB. Until plans are confirmed all that can be said is “watch this space”.

SH: Watch this space.

Thank you for your time both Matt Adamson and Sean Herrett

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The Crowd Says:

2012-08-16T09:11:54+00:00

AGO74

Guest


So would you prefer they condoned the actions? After all the negative press it is nice to hear their version of events and views.

2012-08-16T08:54:41+00:00

NY

Guest


They are trying to do the right thing after some hostile media reactions for something that happens every week on a regular basis in night clubs around Sydney. The PR in mainstream media has always been on the side of other sports here in Sydney. We are always dragged down the gutter when something like this happens. Anyway the proof will not be in this interview, but in the next few weeks and the opening rounds of the season, when WSW kick off their season. I hope things will change dramatically. But one thing is for certain. This club is 100% Western Sydney to the core. From the people who follow it, and the majority of players who have come from West Sydney and have been spreading the goodwill around the area for the past few weeks. Nothing more the people of West Sydney like than a challenge, and Wanderers sure has one. I hope the people from the region will support us (despite what has happened) and we can show those elitist, latte sipping knobs from the east who does it the best ;)

2012-08-16T07:29:14+00:00

langou

Roar Guru


The article read like more of a bit of PR than an actual interview

2012-08-16T06:18:09+00:00

KP

Guest


Ah you're right, I didn't follow up on where exactly those video's were at, and assumed that they were at that game as it was on another thread. Not a block of misfits but a couple of idiots. Pity they ruin it for everyone.

2012-08-16T05:38:00+00:00

JTJ

Guest


There are no YouTube clips from the Rams game. You must be referring to clips that were recorded during the WSW pre-season matches where the RBB were out in force.

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2012-08-16T05:31:50+00:00

Michael Turner

Roar Pro


Link to the YouTube Video? As far as we know none have surfaced...and that all chanting videos were at the Blacktown City, Spartans and Nepean Games. Thanks @turnermate

2012-08-16T05:26:00+00:00

Matt Adamson

Guest


KP, Can you please provide a link to the youtube video you're referencing? From all reliable reports the incident was instigated by a group of 6-8 individuals, which I contend is not "a lot" as you suggested.

2012-08-16T05:14:49+00:00

KP

Guest


Hi guys, THanks for your replies, and I totally agree that there is nothing wrong with attending local games. I head to Heart games being a MVFC member myself. Its great to watch good quality sport. The thing is, whilst I may wear my MVFC scarf, I wont invite all 20 of my mates to stand up and start chanting or singing. Its rude and will irritate the local supporters who have come along to watch THEIR team play and have more of a vested interest in the game being played. My issue is with the "block" of supporters. WSWFan I'd advise looking on the other thread of the youtube clip of supporters. There were more than 4or 5 attending. This was planned, there were a lot of them and they were there to irritate SFC fans. Why?

2012-08-16T04:48:47+00:00

nordster

Guest


Its possible too that there'll be more than one wsw supporter group. Its just that sort of area. The main ones wont be that defined by ethnicity if thats what the 'locals' are so frightened of. The 'active end' will end up a collection of groups imo. Whether RBB turn into 'those sorts of people' or not no one knows. :) but im guessing a couple will ?

2012-08-16T04:48:46+00:00

WSWFan

Guest


There wasnt a BLOCK of RBB fans there....There was about 4 or 5 RBB members sitting in stands, most of whom are from down that way. With no WSW game this week maybe they just wanted to have a peak at the SFC game? There was no intention from these people to cause trouble. The only ones who caused trouble were those randoms who wanted a fight with the SFC supporters...

2012-08-16T04:37:50+00:00

nordster

Guest


It is also for a bit of banter too. Nothing wrong with that as long as it stays at that....

2012-08-16T04:15:51+00:00

Matt Adamson

Guest


KP, The answer to your question is simple. Several people who sing in the RBB and support the Wanderers in the summer live in the Macarthur district and attended for no reason other than to watch a game of football in their local area. Others went to get a glimpse of the opposition on the park. One blessing for football in Australia is that we can all do our thing in clubland during the winter then unite behind our preferred A League team for the summer.

2012-08-16T03:43:33+00:00

Philip

Guest


KP, there were plenty of MVFC fans at Melb Hearts first practice game at AAMI park a few years back. I was there as an MVFC fan to see what the new team was up to, to see the level of support they had and get an idea how they were tracking. There was nothing wrong with being there and like several others i had my MVFC scarf on. No stress, no fights, just watching the competition. I also occasionally go to AFL games, and when i do, i wear my MVFC scarf (to show my true and number one allegiance) and have never had a problem with other supporters.

2012-08-16T03:23:54+00:00

Futbanous

Guest


Midfielder Pointless going over the same ground ,the media wax & wane according to the moon sometimes. You may be right you may be wrong ,but what happens in Cricket isn't going to change the way forward for football. That lies in the ability of the domestic League to improve the quality of Football & engage Football fans in an Australian way. That means self regulation by fans to weed out the wannabe Millwall clones. You can chant "Nobody likes us we dont care" down the East End, when you confront hardcore Scousers in an FA cup tie, but any replication of such in Australia would send the locals packing.

2012-08-16T03:02:47+00:00

Midfielder

Guest


Excellent responses from a fans group... it needs to be remembered they are not police and have no idea when someone turns up their intention... I am greatly encouraged by the comments... Just as an aside a fight that started between from what I have read was about 6 guys and another 10 or 12 joined in to a greater or lessor extent .... Footage on Fox last night was from the late 70's in England of tear gas and mass riots, then off to South America a riot in the 80's involving thousands... .... so I assume next time 10 blokes get into a fight at the cricket, NRL, RU or RL we can expect the same response... Without taking anything away from what happened ... and the bloke taken to hospital was the guy who started the fight .... it is FFS has the media reaction been a tad over the top... I read once ODI at the SGC the average number thrown out for fighting and being drunk is 175 or something like that ... and this never gets reported but it happens every match...

2012-08-16T02:53:04+00:00

KP

Guest


Why didn't you ask what these guys were doing at a match in which their own team wasn't even playing??? You dont get blocks of supporters from non-participating teams at any other games, even in other codes. What was the intent of the RBB to be at a Sydney FC friendly?? I wont stand in a block chanting when my team isn't playing, its just plain stupid and will piss off the fans who've come along to enjoy their participating team play.

2012-08-16T02:46:41+00:00

Kasey

Guest


I've had feedback that football is seriously copping it over talkback radio and in the print media(DailyTerror mainly) in Sydney The only other thing I saw was a brief 15 second coverage on Fox Sports News the day afterwards. Football people are right to be right on top of discussing this Vic, WSW has some great potential to lift our game to a higher level and it would be a shame if this type of crap was to sink the ship before it left port. I hope this has been a rude wake-up call to a few naive members of the RBB who didn't see this coming. The rest of us have had 7 years to weed out undesirables and to educate ourselves if we didn't attend NSL games as to how football is viewed/portrayed in the media and policed by the cops and Security goons in the stadiums as a result of this portrayal. Enjoy being severely curtailed on October 20th guys, I expect the public order(riot squad) to be keeping a close eye on things whoch is a terrible look for a game trying to attract the family dollar.

Ditto Fut. I had some concerns as well but didn't want to raise them so as not to give some people ideas. Let's hope this is policed properly from within the club.

Some good feedback guys. Now let's back up words with actions and nip this thing in the bud before the season proper starts.

2012-08-16T01:39:17+00:00

nordster

Guest


RBB is a great chance for young people in the west who love football to belong to something. There are worse things that the occasional fun loving hoodlum can get wrapped up in than a group of football supporters. Im glad they have this outlet. With wise heads like these two among them, it makes the clubs job a whole lot easier and cheaper than gung ho security operatives, govt or private... The last thing the club needs on a Fun or Financial level is to overreact on active support areas in stadium. If anything, a little bit of extra wiggle room would not be a bad thing on some issues here and there....

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