English Rugby gets a look at the new IRB rules

By Rugby Fan / Roar Guru

The Aviva Premiership season kicked off on Saturday with a double-header at Twickenham: Wasps vs Harlequins and Saracens vs London Irish. These matches were played with the new law tweaks introduced by the IRB and I watched both.

Wasps were nearly relegated last season, while Quins finished champions, so most pundits saw Wasps losing. Wasps did indeed lose but not quite in the way anyway expected.

They actually scored 20 unanswered points with barely 10 minutes on the clock. Early in the second half, they led by 40-13 points and looked set for a famous win.

Quins then ran riot and scored 29 unanswered points, including a late Nick Evans penalty to give his side the lead for the first time in the match. Quins won 40-42.

It was a good advert for the game, if slightly surreal. Since the match was televised, of more general interest to Roarers is that English rugby got a look at the new Television Match Official (TMO) review powers under those law tweaks.

The first incident came at the end of the first half. Wasps flyhalf, Nicky Robinson, popped a short pass to the centres from just inside his own half, and then the ball was spread wide to the left where winger Tom Varndell went over for the score.

Handshakes all round, but the referee was already consulting with his assistant, who thought there may have been a forward pass in the move. Cue the TMO.

The first thing TV viewers were greeted with was a sight of the TMO himself. A box popped up on the screen as if our man was making a Skype call into the match. TMOs will need to be looking their best if that is standard procedure.

It had been a good move by Wasps and looked like an attractive score. Forward passes are notoriously difficult to judge from TV angles so there was some trepidation about how the TMO would interpret the footage. Would he need categorical evidence of a forward pass to deny the try, or would he instead want certainty the pass was good to allow it?

On the advice of his assistant, the referee had asked the TMO to look at a specific passage of play. As it turned out, Robinson’s pop pass was clearly forward and the try was not awarded. So, all good, yes?

Well, not completely. There were some dissenting voices immediately. Commentator Austin Healey took almost an aesthetic dislike to the new powers, hating the fact that a good-looking back line move was called back after going as far as the try line. He wondered why the assistant referee hadn’t just flagged the forward pass when he saw it.

On Twitter, Clive Woodward was concerned that assistant referees might start to follow the ball rather than watching for incidents behind play, thus potentially missing foul play.

Elsewhere, Brian Moore declared that anything which annoyed Austin Healey had to be a force for good, and asked Woodward what grounds he had to believe assistants would change how they watch a game. (Interestingly, Woodward appears to have deleted his tweets on the matter. They weren’t really controversial, so it’s likely he just didn’t want to become the focus for the debate).

By and large, most accepted the right decision had been made. In the second half, though, it was noticeable that players started to draw the referee’s attention to offences they believed they had taken place in the lead-up to subsequent scores. This hadn’t happened at all in the first half.

The referee is not supposed to respond to player appeals and, in this match anyway, he waved them away.

However, this kind of pressure could become a feature, and it’s possible officials might have to take action against players who protest too vehemently.

It was also striking that the crowd became more active in chorusing “forward”, whenever the opposition gave a flat pass, as if to let the referee know he should be prepared to go back should a try result.

This match saw two other TMO referrals. There was a chance a Wasps player had gone into touch before giving a scoring pass. He hadn’t, and the try was awarded. In the other incident, Nick Evans kicked across field for Quins full back Mike Brown to collect the ball and score. Here, the issue was whether Brown was onside, and it’s the type of review you often see in rugby league.

One problem with crossfield kicks is getting both players in the same frame. Our first view appeared to show Brown’s head at the bottom of the screen in what seemed like an onside position. Players on the pitch could see this on the stadium screen and Evans lined up the conversion.

For some reason, the TMO wasn’t completely convinced and looked at other angles. Play was held up for some moments, drawing impatient jeers from the crowd, until he concluded there was no better view, and allowed the try.

Wayne Barnes was referee in the second match of the opening double-header between Saracens and London Irish, which Saracens won.

He quickly went to the TMO twice. The first instance was another pop pass to put Saracens captain Steve Borthwick under the posts for a try. It was forward, and so no try. In the second, Saracens flyhalf was flattened by a tackle and Barnes asked for an opinion on whether it was illegal. The TMO thought it was. It looked a bit high but the tackler mainly failed to use his arms.

There were two points of note here. When the TMO ruled the tackle was illegal, Barnes replied “Yes, I saw it on the screen, and I agree”. He then issued a yellow card. That raises the question of what he would have done if he hadn’t agreed with the TMO’s opinion. I assume he would have had to award the penalty but could have held back on the yellow.

Or maybe he could have just overruled the TMO, I don’t know. After all, not every ground has a screen for officials on the pitch to see replays so perhaps he doesn’t have any discretion.

The second point is, it was clear Barnes saw both offences himself. He didn’t require his assistants to bring them up. Last season, he would have just whistled for both. In this match, it appears he used the TMO to confirm what he already suspected.

At the tail end of the game, Barnes called for further TMO reviews for the final two tries. Before the law change, I’m sure he would have given both without hesitation. No forward passes were spotted and both were given. One ESPN commentator was disappointed that Barnes wasn’t prepared to make the call himself.

(Barnes, of course, does have some history with the question of forward passes).

It was noticeable under the old laws, that referees had begun to ask for TMO opinions on tries even when the pitch officials were in the best position to judge. If more follow Barnes, then supporters may have to get used to the possibility that virtually every try, and maybe most heavy tackles, will come to be referred.

On Saturday, the referees were directing the TMO to look at particular passages of play, not the whole build-up. I strongly suspect there will be “review creep”.

After all, we saw last year TMO Johan Meuwesen going beyond his brief to advise against a Jimmy Cowan try for New Zealand against South Africa in Port Elizabeth. Meuwesen had seen the clear forward pass from Dagg, had no authority to speak on the matter, but got an opportunity when the referee asked him about the separate issue of the grounding.

On one of the Saracens tries Barnes asked the TMO to look at “the last two passes”. As it turned out, there was a pass prior to those two which looked flat. Barnes probably had that pass in mind anyway, and was just a bit imprecise. There were around five or six quick passes so it’s not always easy to keep count.

Indeed, the TMO proceeded to scrutinize the third pass back before concluding it was good (as were the last two). It’s not difficult to imagine in the future a TMO spotting an infringement he hasn’t been asked to look at and deciding to flag it. It would be less of a leap than Meuwesen took last year.

This, of course, raises the question of how far back in play you go. After the first match at Twickenham, Harlequins head coach Conor O’Shea happened to say he thought one of Wasps’ tries originated with an illegal turnover. He wasn’t complaining, just noting how his team hadn’t really got any breaks while going 27 points behind.

The interviewer seized on his comment and asked whether he would have liked to see the TMO involved. O’Shea looked surprised at the suggestion and said he wouldn’t. He saw it as just the rub of the green.

Other coaches might well see things differently. So, how far back can we go? Is the whole passage of play, from the point a team gains possession to when it scores, up for review? That could be a mighty number of phases but a lot of it will be down to how a game is officiated.

Officials now have some choices to make about how they referee a game. Before the law changes, if you saw a questionable pass, you decided to call it out, or give it the benefit of the doubt and play on. Whichever way you went, there was no going back.

Now, referees have a possible third choice. “There’s a chance that pass was forward but I’m not sure. I’ll play on but go back to it if there’s a try”. There must be a temptation to start doing this. It keeps the game flowing, which generally makes for a better spectacle. It also allows a referee to avoid making a decision about which he isn’t completely certain.

We could end up with a kind of “reverse advantage”. A team the referee thinks may have infinged gets to keep the ball if a try looks likely because he can go back and get the TMO to take a better look.

But that could be end up being as much as a minute or more of play. Will a referee really go that far back? If he does, then a try might be disallowed but the defending side will have suffered a big disadvantage. Firstly, they will have spent that time wearing themselves out tackling. Secondly, the minute won’t get added back to the clock. For them, it will be a minute out of the game without the ball.

If, on the other hand, a try is scored and the referee doesn’t go back then, by default, he decides the questionable play was OK. If you are a streetwise team, and you know you’ve thrown a forward pass in a move which wasn’t called, it will be in your interests to set up a series of grinding phases to “clear the slate” and put some distance between the pass and a potential scoring opportunity later.

Both outcomes are undesirable, but very possible if referees are tempted to hold off on tight calls instead of blowing them up, or decisively judging them legal.

When the new review powers were introduced, I think most of us saw them as just an extra check in the context of the game as we already know it. After just two televised matches here in England, it seems clear they’ll raise as many questions as they seek to answer, and may end up with some important unintended consequences. We might be embarking on a strange journey while we digest them.

The Crowd Says:

2012-09-07T14:26:34+00:00

Hollywood

Guest


What about possible forward passes before a kickable PK is awarded...these are points too, this could open up a massive can of worms if a forward pass is not detected moments before the PK is awarded? Really, I agree its about getting big decisions right, but I think the referees in Rugby on a whole get the big picture right. However we have seen a deteriotation in the big picture decision making in League since the advent of TMO for everything... case in point this years SOO. My opinion is the referee in the middle has to be able to make those big calls, not rely on a TMO, it should be used as the exception, not the rule....

AUTHOR

2012-09-05T22:43:14+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


Opinions are still split in England over the new TMO trial. Here's one who says he's unimpressed: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/columnists/mickcleary/9518425/TMOs-should-be-tackled-into-touch-before-rugbys-essence-is-lost.html "...It wasn’t a landmark moment for the sport - neither fair, enlightening or worthwhile. The whole process was too unwieldy and too random..."

2012-09-03T10:27:04+00:00

Sam

Guest


one rule i would change is the amount of dodgy scrums in a game theres too much time wasted on scrums. They should allow for two dodgy scrums and then blow the whistle with the offending going back ten metres with a quick tap from the other team.

AUTHOR

2012-09-03T07:32:08+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


Brian Moore has given a thumbs-up to the new TMO review process, albeit he warns against jumping to early conclusions: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/rugbyunion/club/9516230/On-the-evidence-of-the-opening-weekend-the-TMOs-new-powers-are-a-step-in-the-right-direction.html Elsewhere, Harlequins man-of-the-match Nick Evans was more qualified: "..While the New Zealander welcomed the potential for the new trial, introduced by the International Rugby Board, to eradicate errors in the build-up to tries, he suggested it may have to be restricted to the two previous phases of play, as it is in South Africa’s Currie Cup this season. As it stands, the Premiership trial empowers the referee to refer incidents that have led to the scoring of a try from the last stoppage. "'We have been told it is all about getting the big decisions right,' said Evans, 'But it does take a long time and especially for a team like us. When we get that momentum we want to get the game going at that pace and I guess it does slow the game down a little bit. If you go back to Northampton/Munster [in last year’s Heineken Cup pool match] when Ronan O’Gara got that drop goal after 42 phases, they could go up and say I think there was a forward pass in phase two and you have got to trawl back through. But as long as they get the decisions right, then I am pretty happy.' "Evans...joined Wasps director of rugby Dai Young in raising concerns that the new system could lead to players haranguing officials to challenge whether tries have been scored legitimately. 'My understanding is that the referee has got to ask the TMO to look specifically at something that he feels needs to be looked at and not be badgered by players,' said Young. 'But in the heat of the moment I think that is always going to happen. We just don’t want it to look like a bit of a circus really and develop into something that looks a bit unprofessional.'"

AUTHOR

2012-09-03T06:29:52+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


That's one possible consequence for this trial too. As far as I understand - please someone correct me if I'm wrong - the Rugby League TMO can't rule on forward passes. That's still a decision which is made in realtime by the pitch officials. The new TMO protocols are intended to help rule out tries resulting from forward passes but we could actually see fewer infringements being called if referees do what you say.

2012-09-03T03:47:33+00:00

Markus

Guest


The wording of the rule change as published leads me to believe this is the case. Similar to when a maul becomes stationary, the referee will now demand the attacking team 'use it' after possession has been secured for a time. There may be some initial hiccups with the inconsistency of time allowed by referees in this regard, but if they are only calling it after possession has been secured and not while there is still heavy contest at a ruck between both teams then I think it is a very welcome law addition.

2012-09-03T03:39:02+00:00

Pogo

Guest


My concern is that this would just lead to time wasting. If the clock isn't running you might as well take a breather and take as long as possible to start again. Like in the NFL where it takes more than two hours to play one hour of football.

2012-09-03T02:57:56+00:00

Badjack

Guest


I don't know if the rucking rules have changed in the ITM Cup but I like what appears to be new rucking laws where real rucking is allowed.

2012-09-03T02:17:01+00:00

Invictus

Guest


Time should be automatically stopped whenever the ball is not in play.

2012-09-03T02:11:45+00:00

rough conduct

Guest


Exactly! having the clock roll over while the players ponce about is simply robbing the fans of value. Do administrators realise the money some fans have had to part with to attend? if you have spent $400, that is $5 a minute! Time wasting needs to be eradicated immediately.

2012-09-03T01:45:45+00:00

kovana

Guest


Yep, this is better.

2012-09-03T00:56:16+00:00

moaman

Roar Guru


excellent article!

2012-09-03T00:17:32+00:00

Derm

Roar Guru


Correct RF. The TMO trial laws are ONLY being trialled in the Premiership and the Currie Cup - with different variants in each.

2012-09-03T00:01:37+00:00

soapit

Guest


what has happened in the nrl is that infringements are being let go so they can have a look at it after the try is scored. the problem happens is when the infringement happens, is let go to have a look at but then no try is scored and its then play on. it has reduced the refs willingness to make decisions greatly.

2012-09-02T23:57:58+00:00

soapit

Guest


if you just did kicks at goal (including after a try) and scrum restarts that would get you a heap more time.

2012-09-02T23:56:15+00:00

soapit

Guest


not sure how its being reffed in practice but i'd like it to be an optional thing where it only comes into play if the ref thinks they are delaying and then calls out "5 seconds" similar to how they do the mauls.

AUTHOR

2012-09-02T23:33:11+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


The whole match is currently up on YouTube, although I don't know how long it will stay there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2s6nIcPwgA The move I described above is at the 46:40 mark. The match clock shows 30 seconds left in the first half (The ESPN match clock counts down).

AUTHOR

2012-09-02T23:29:53+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


I got another look at the move which saw the first new TMO review in the Wasps v Quins game. Wasps won a lineout around halfway on the left hand side of the pitch. The scrum half fed his number ten who then popped the incriminating pass to his centre. The centre took the ball up into traffic and a ruck formed. Wasps secured the ball, went right again and another player was tackled, leading to a second ruck. The ball came back to Wasps who went right again with an overlap. When it reached Varndell, he put on the burners and went over. In the Currie Cup competition on now, they are playing a version of the new TMO protocol where you can only go back two phases of play. In the Wasps move, the questionable pass was three phases back so, in theory, the try would have stood in South Africa. The question of how far you can go back seems likely to be a crucial one in determining whether the new review policy will work.

2012-09-02T23:08:13+00:00

allblackfan

Guest


I've noticed that in the ITM Cup, the refs have relied more on their touchies and less on the TMO, another reason for the speed of the game. (Granted the new TMO powers weren't being used). When a set piece move was coming up from which the ref's direct line of sight was obstructed, you could hear him call on the touchie to keep an eye on that side.

AUTHOR

2012-09-02T23:02:15+00:00

Rugby Fan

Roar Guru


I'm looking only at the new TMO protocols here. As far as I understand from the press releases, they aren't trialling those in the ITM. The Aviva matches are playing all the new laws but the TMO protocols have dominated discussions.

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