Pumas aim to put Rosario on rugby map

Shop, you're kidding, I'm sure deans does that! A professional playing for his country doesn't need it! I'm positive that that's all the motivation and passion you need. It's the execution, combinations, lack of injuries and ability along with other main factors that cause a team to win!!!

Cheers fernando, enjoy the game.

3rd is still great guys! It wont last long sadly, even if we win and SA lose and we go back to 2nd-we shall get some mauling during the spring tour. Do the Lions games contribute to IRB rankings? I hope not for that sake however we MAY just be able to field our first XV by then and give a bloody nose or two...

I wonder what Che would say to Quade Cooper? Or Robbie Deans for that matter. (It would include..."and stop whinging about my cigar".

He was born in Rosario and yes was an avid rugby player. I think he played for CUBA (a big BA uni side).

I don't care what nationality a coach is, but it is still his job to motivate and get his team in the right frame of mind before a game.

I remember reading in a biography of Guevara that he was born in Rosario, but spent most of his childhood in Alta Gracia. Apparently he was a useful fly-half in his university days too.

"How can you expect a non-Australian to have the same passion and instill some tribalism as an Australian." This is invalid. First off, how many Australian Olympians are coached by non-Australian coaches? No problems with motivation there. Second, if shared heritage is required in order to fire someone up, how come Deans can't fire up Cooper? They're both from the same country, right? Oh but Cooper's been in Australia for 11 years...how old is he? 24? Ok then so he's been a New Zealander longer than he's been an Australian so...oh he identifies as an Australian, sings the national anthem and everything? Anyone asked what nationality Deans sees himself as? Well he sings AAF not GDNZ at games so that's an interesting insight, he would appear to think and act like he's Australian. So what then is the problem with the firing up of the players? well they know he's not Australian at his core like them. hold on a minute , what about the other players. One Mike Harris, born in Auckland, head boy of Westlake Boys' College, played for the ITM Cup, went to the Reds, became an Australian who wears jandals not thongs. Samo, Pocock, Ioane, Genia, Moore whoo the list of Australian borns is getting much shorter. Strange, old Pocock never had a problem getting fired up for a test under Deans and he's from Zimbabwe. I think the more pertinent question is 'How do you expect a non-Australian coach that Australian players do not respect to fire them up?' simple really, you expect them to be professionals and get on with the match, which half of them do, the other half pump out twitter updates and check if they're trending. jamesoconnor832 "Eggs Benedict I cld eat you all day erryday :) " < such valuable insight and a great addition to the oconnor brand, let's see if Steggles will stump up a couple of hundred k sponsorship buckaroonies to keep him with the Rebels. Finally if the rumours are true and Sir Graham Henry has been assisting Los Pumas in the RC then the Argies it does reflect that there may be some inconsistency with the argument that you need a coach of (x) nationality to fire up players of (x) nationality as he certainly will be feeding insight into the Aussie gameplan to the Argies. Like 'kick it to Mike Harris, he's dodgy under the high ball'. Genuinely feel for the WAllabies they are hopping on into mountain lion territory trailing entrails and body fluids and as much as I want the Pumas to win a game I also want to see the wounded animal get down to primal level and rip the crap out of the opposition. It's not up to Deans to tell them this. It's up to them to get off their asses and do it.

Hi Jim, is that correct, Rosario is Messi birthplace, but Che Guevara is a native of Alta Gracia town, Province of Cordoba. I do not think that in Argentina we are desperate for a victory, but ovbiously we want to win, and I say this because here in my country,every one is saying that the first two years were to be taken to learn. Remember LPs played no more than 5-6 tests a year, and I think physically in the last 2 games from the 60th minute, the players started to feel the fatigue and wear of travel and competition, so far they also have five games facing the three best teams in the world. I read today in http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/rugby - that Ioane (for me the best wing in the world), Polota (last Saturday had perhaps his best game in the WBs) and Radike (along with Nathan), are two veterans who have impressed me too much, for all that they did in this RC). The report said they will be available for the Coach. To me that I have tickets for the game, is "spectacular", regardless of the presence of these three will benefit Australia and hurt Argentina, but anyway when you go to a game like this you always want to see the best in both sides. If is NBA y want to have on the court Kevin Durant, Le Bron, Kobe, Wade, Manu, so on, if is Soccer, Messi, Ronaldo, Rooney, Drogba, so on. In rugby is no different, all the Argentinian fans want to enjoy a show with the best WBs, ABs and Boks players. I agree with what Nathan Sharpe said today in Argentina media, he did never seen anything like that is happening to Australia team, who has suffered an incredible amount of injuries, that´s why I do believe Asutralians should not be so hard on their expressions with a great coach like Robbie, and should give a little more respect for the players that are defending the colors of your nation. Despite all the bad, there are also positive things, such as: New blood in players like Hooper, Denis, Timani, Douglas, Shipperly that tomorrow with the other injured players, they will serve to form a great team. Regards Fernando - Villa C Paz - Cordoba - Argentina

ok the Wallabies are backs to the wall but if they put up a decent fight like last week IMO, how about putting the knives away? how about none of this chewing yer own arm off? Bring back Matt

Would I Springbok loss to the Blacks see us back at 2? Personally I'm thinking the 3rd ranking with a promise of worse to come may be needed to 'motivate' the powers to be into some proactive action, such as announcing another idea for an Aussie version of the ITM or Currie.

1(1) NEW ZEALAND 92.43 2(3) SOUTH AFRICA 85.61 3(2) AUSTRALIA 85.21 4(4) ENGLAND 83.09 5(5) FRANCE 83.03 6(6) WALES 82.26 7(7) IRELAND 79.85 8(8) ARGENTINA 79.34 9(9) SCOTLAND 77.97 10(10) SAMOA 76.23 11(11) ITALY 76.03 12(12) TONGA 74.79 13(13) CANADA 72.30 14(14) FIJI 70.60 15(15) GEORGIA 67.95 16(16) JAPAN 67.93

Wallabies are now #3 ranked team

Haven't the wallabies slipped to third in rankings? The lead article author states 2nd. Just wondering. Injuries are the problem with the wallabies, they have created a snow ball effect...players out of position, combinations lacking, confidence, frustration, turmoil the result. So sad and unfair but that is life sometimes. They will bounce back and when they do....well pay backs a b&$@h!

And they need someone to motivate and lead them. It's in their heads. The Deans experiment failed by the end of the RWC. How can you expect a non-Australian to have the same passion and instill some tribalism as an Australian. Lets move on - Get Roos in!

We're going to lose sorry guys, it was written in the stars at the 65minute mark last weekend. A shambles perpetuated by a national union that doesn't want to develop or grow the game to be at the same level as AFL or League. Instead it wants a 'cottage industry' whereby it competes at the highest level with a sprinkling of stars that have natural talent, not needing any extra resources (minimal effort, maximum gain). Unfortunately when the 'sprinklings' are all crocked, we get hammered by a nation that is at the moment playing average at best. A seachange is needed in Aussie rugby, but will it ever come? I really hope so... -- Comment left via The Roar's iPhone app. Download it now [http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-roar/id327174726?mt=8].

Exactly - theoretically there should be 5 immediate replacements in any position due to the existence of 5 super teams. Unfortunately with regards to the backs, all the super coaches apparently want their "star" back to be the 5/8 - Beale, JOC, Cooper and Barnes all get played 5/8 at super level and then shuffled into whatever position is required in the WBs - this is simply stupid - play them in their best position at super and international level and then select who is best in each specialised position. The ARU should exert some influence here in this regard to ensure that players don't end up chosen out of position for the WBs. It is as if they select that team first and then put them in position, they instead should select each position separately and choose the best performed out of the 5 super teams - seems simple to me.

MOC - i've asked this question in different forms several times,. where did all these players come from?its not as if douglas suddenly appeared a couple of months ago. why did it take a horrific injury crisis for some of these players to be given a chance? deans started his tenure clearing house and bringing in new players (JOC, cooper, beale) but then slammed the brakes on and resisted any new new blood until forced to

From the Pumas point of view, I feel that they deserve a win based on how well they have played so far with no success, but as mania said "too many times i’ve seen wb’s with their backs to wall between a rock and a hard place and come out winners" - for this reason, I feel that WB rugby should embrace the challenge and use their horror run of injuries to blood a large group of new guys who might relish the opportunity to shine - just look at Hooper, Douglas and Shipperly. This injection of youth might be what gets the WBs over the line, but the selectors seem too scared to try new players and seem content to hold on to old ones - seriously what do they have to lose?

too close to call. puma's in theory should win but too many times i've seen wb's with their backs to wall between a rock and a hard place and come out winners. i'll fence sit this one. still should be an awesome game and i reckon it'll be an arm wrestle