Meads not yet ready to lay down for McCaw

By Geoff Parkes / Expert

Sheek’s excellent recent article on Richie McCaw certainly generated plenty of support for McCaw as the greatest player rugby has seen, and the events of Suncorp last Saturday night only reinforce those views.

In what was a misfiring All Blacks’ performance McCaw stood out for two moments in particular: singlehandedly shutting down a dangerous kick though he was well outnumbered, then showing inspiring leadership to risk a loss in order to try to convert a draw into an unlikely (and probably undeserved) win.

But for McCaw to assume the “greatest ever” mantle he would need to oust the incumbent who, according to most observers, is the great All Black: lock forward Colin Meads.

Such comparisons across eras are always difficult, even moreso when one of the contenders is still playing and may have another three seasons left at the top level. So while McCaw is very much in the public eye, allow me to shift some of the focus back onto Meads.

Statistically Meads’ All Black record looks nothing like McCaw’s, 55 tests from 133 matches for the All Blacks, but this is purely reflective of different structures applying to different generations.

A typical Meads winter saw him attend club training on Tuesday and Thursday nights, turn out Saturday for his club Waitete, a handful of sub-union games for Maniopoto, 10-12 provincial games for King Country, plus higher honours matches such as All Black trials, North v South etc, and then of course All Blacks home tests, and tours in the off season.

Tours of the long form variety, with matches in all corners against all comers – not the FIFO test only visits that we see today.

All the while running a sizeable sheep farm, bringing up 5 kids and driving many miles to attend trainings and matches across the remote King Country and beyond. Without a personal manager or media manager in sight, and not a cent to show for it.

I was fortunate enough to grow up in the area and doubly lucky to have been a young fella standing on the sideline watching the great man at work.

Most vivid is a game on the Taumarunui Domain (on the number two ground no less, sometimes even the greatest are not deemed worthy of the number one pitch) between Waitete and Taumarunui Athletic where, one Saturday afternoon, the ridiculously strong Waitete pack was laying their usual waste.

In what was a well rehearsed routine, brothers Stan and Bill Symonds (another fine player) distracted the referee at a lineout, whose look away to sort the issue was Colin’s cue to clean out his opposing lock with a single clean punch. No TV of course, and in the days when touch was run by a reserve player or team manager using a spare pair of shorts as a flag, naturally done on the side of the field where their own man was on the line.

I don’t recall who it was he clocked but I did hear a few weeks ago that he’d just woken up asking if Neil Armstrong got back safely from the moon and what was the deal with this new decimal currency.

The Waitete pack lorded over the King Country just like the T-Birds ruled Rydell High. With a combination of skill and intimidation, over players and referees alike. I did once see a referee brave enough to send Meads off, late in his career, in a club match in the modest rugby outpost of Pio Pio, the small home crowd raucously cheering his every step back to the showers.

Meads’ most famous send off occurred in a test match against Scotland in 1967, ironic in that by almost all accounts, this incident was considered accidental or at worst careless. For Meads to complain, however, would be rather like John Holmes considering himself unlucky to contract Aids, and to his credit Meads copped what was a major humiliation on the chin without bitterness.

Of course many Australian views of Meads are clouded by the injury to Ken Catchpole and I make no attempt to gloss over this. It is well documented and, years later, does not sit well against the Meads persona, or the actions of a man who has given his life to rugby administration, countless private and public charitable acts, and continues to engage rugby supporters all around the world as an ambassador of the game.

Despite being capable of thuggish acts, anyone who has met the man knows that he is no thug. These were different times than today in terms of what was acceptable both on the field and in society.

Other anecdotes? The reverence in which Meads is held in New Zealand was highlighted to me on tour in the 80’s when billeted with son Glynn, a talented number eight good enough himself to be selected for an All Blacks Trial match.

While our teammates were all housed close to whatever action there was in Gisborne, we were driven to an impressive country manor, where numerous neighbours and relatives attended after dinner for an audience with the son of a legend.

Like a scene straight out of a Jane Austen costume drama, we retired to the drawing room, listened intently to a piano recital from one of the children, applauded politely, where thereafter, one by one, all were introduced to the guest of honour. Glynn never batted an eyelid, it came with the territory.

New Zealanders feel attached to Meads via his nickname “Pinetree”. For Te Kuiti locals, however, he was and is always simply “Tree,” this being their way of claiming territorial ownership over their man, and his way of just being another local bloke.

Another of Meads’ old King Country teammates was Maori All Black prop Bill Wordley, whose youngest son had gone off the rails a little, got in with the wrong crowd, and earned himself the rather dubious nickname “Scab.” He had just returned from a stint in Borstal when we were at an aftermatch function in the mid 80’s.

I happened to find myself alongside Meads at the urinal. “Gidday young Allanthus,” said the great man, not to distinguish me as young so much as to differentiate me from my old man.

“Gidday Colin” was about the best I can remember offering up in reply.

At which point young Wordley walked in to join us. He acknowledged me then turned to Meads and flicked an eyebrow in that cool way that only a real bro can do.

“Gidday Tree,” he said.

“Gidday Scab,” said Meads, zipping up his fly.

No irony, no trying to be funny, just one of the locals fitting in.

Above all else though, what ranks Meads so highly was his ability on the field. Never the tallest lock, he was blessed with massive hands, speed of foot and seemingly natural strength which was enhanced by farmwork.

He had tremendous presence on the field, stunning athleticism, and loved to carry the ball in one hand, throwing outrageous circular dummies, and flicking out offloads. The sort of stuff that adds zeroes to SBW’s contract every time he does it, Meads was doing routinely 40-50 years earlier.

There is no question in my mind that he would similarly dominate in today’s professional environment, although to be fair, with general improvement in player fitness and conditioning, the gap to the mortals may have been narrowed.

I don’t know Meads’ private view of McCaw nor McCaw’s of Meads, but I have no doubt that there is a shared humility, and agreement that all this discussion about who really is the greatest ever is not a matter for them.

Regardless of when and if Richie McCaw assumes the mantle, perhaps the greatest satisfaction that McCaw can take from this is that to even be considered in the same breath as Meads is testament enough to his outstanding career.

The Crowd Says:

2015-07-19T12:08:44+00:00

AJK

Guest


I saw them all;Meads walked alone....

2013-06-25T11:37:56+00:00

mr Black

Guest


Read a lot of literature on players going way bak an Meade and Maurice Brownlie seem to b head and shoulders above the rest ,but dare I say it Richie mite just pip both of them either way we hav been lucky to hav the three most vigorous forwards rugbys Eva seen but the list goes on Fitzpatrick,Skinner,Jones,Kirkpatrick,Brooke...

2012-12-06T05:58:39+00:00

BJ

Guest


I was present at Murrayfield when Meads was sent off, and saw the incident clearly. The ball went loose on the Scotland side after a lineout and Meads, sharp as a viper overdosed on caffeine, dashed in pursuit (let's see the modern blokes move like that!). Chisholm and Meads converged on the moving ball, and Meads, seeing the opportunity to gain NZ an advantage, attempted to kick it ahead just as Chisholm bent forward in an effort to grab it. Thus, the ball, Chisholm and Meads's boot were in quite close proximity. Meads missed the erratically bouncing ball, and his boot went rather too close to Chisholm for the Scottish crowd. "OFF! OFF! OFF!" they chanted to a man, and the referee, clearly influenced by this Scottish display of sportsmanship, ordered him off the field. I have long wondered if the ref is related to Pontius PIlate. Meads did not foul, nor did he attempt to foul - had such been his desire, Chisholm would still be in orbit. Allow this Welshman to opine that Colin Meads is far and away the finest forward he has seen in 60 years of watching the game. Meads is nonpareil. Damn, I was proud when The Great Man reckoned that Rhys Williams was one of his toughest opponents!

2012-10-29T11:01:37+00:00

Tui

Guest


Because he is probably the best player of all time and has won every trophy and award on the planet.

2012-10-27T07:00:26+00:00

Neuen

Guest


Why do everyone want to punch McCaw though?

2012-10-25T18:25:27+00:00

Jock M

Guest


Thanks Peepers. There is none so blind as those who do not wish to see!

2012-10-25T17:37:19+00:00

Jerry

Guest


McCaw was only penalised once in the entire match.

2012-10-25T12:44:32+00:00

abnutta

Roar Guru


I'm gonna go Forward and Back New Zealand – Richie McCaw & Bert Cooke Australia – John Eales & Mark Ella South Africa – Frik Du Preez & Tony Harris England – Martin Johnson & Peter Jackson Scotland – Ian ‘McLauchlan & Gavin Hastings Ireland – Willie John McBride & Jackie Kyle Wales – Mervyn Davies & Gareth Edwards France – Jean Prat & Serge Blanco

2012-10-25T12:37:24+00:00

jnr

Guest


and can anyone tell me why the wallabies looklike a bunch of gym junkies not all but most they have a league body about them same shape

2012-10-25T12:32:56+00:00

jnr

Guest


i dont know about meads era but richie is the best in this era by a longgggggg trillion miles long before you can rate anyone near him iwas at the game on the wkend watch him hes a freakhe has the ball in his hands before they even hit the ground no wonder higgers and a lot of other players target him he'd piss ya off but he just keeps on keepin on doesnt let it faze him

2012-10-25T12:31:24+00:00

abnutta

Roar Guru


Many forget that Meads would probably have played on after that Lions tour in 1971 but for a broken back sustained in a car accident which caused him to miss the 1972 season and the 1972/73 tour of the UK. That tour was captained by Ian Kirkpatrick and only just missed the grand slam with a 10-10 draw against Ireland. Meads' swansong actually came in 1973 when he captained a NZRFU Presidents XV against the All Blacks.... and WON. If McCaw can find a way to captain a team to victory against his beloved All Blacks, then his ascendancy over Meads would be pretty well locked up.

2012-10-25T12:01:02+00:00

Peepers

Guest


Thanks for your invaluable contribution Jock, you've enriched us all.

2012-10-25T11:10:43+00:00

Jock M

Guest


Why bother comparing today's players with those of yester year? Two entirely different games. Just glad that I played and watched when I did.

2012-10-25T09:14:46+00:00

Frank O'Keeffe

Guest


Now, now, Daniel! You know what Tony Ward said in 1991, don't you?

2012-10-25T07:01:08+00:00

Frank O'Keeffe

Guest


Stephen Donald finds the ability to find touch and now he's a World Cup hero?

2012-10-25T06:51:15+00:00

Chris Hardiman

Roar Rookie


Great read mate. I would happily cut a finger off if it meant that I could go back in time and watch Taumarunui Athletic vs Waitete at Taumarunui Domain No.2 ground.

2012-10-25T06:14:07+00:00

atlas

Guest


thanks for the enjoyable article Allanthus; eras/generations apart and I won't be picking any 'best of' players. My late father always rated the teams in the years immediately after WWII, Fred Allen and co., not so much for their performances (I think NZ lost a lot in that era) but for their character, what them playing did for the country in bleak times, and for what many of them had been through either in person or through family connections. I think over half the squad to SA in 1949 had served in the armed forces. Who's best?

2012-10-25T05:51:21+00:00

ohtani's jacket

Guest


Richie will go down as better than any Australian rugby player in history. That's good enough for me.

2012-10-25T05:43:19+00:00

Frank O'Keeffe

Guest


So very, very bad…

AUTHOR

2012-10-25T04:48:08+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


Peepers, agree with Blanco over Sella. Absolute icon. Uncle, thinking again about England, Johnson v Beaumont is a tough call, but i think i'd have Wilkinson over both of them. Obviously suffered from injuries affecting his longevity, but he took the game to another level in the UK, points record holder at the time, RWC hero etc... ...on second thoughts so is Steven Donald, so i guess RWC hero may not be the best measure :) The other interesting sidelight is that Johnson of course did some of his development in the King Country, so no doubt a bit of the Meads aura rubbed off onto him.

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