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Geoff is a Melbourne based sports fanatic and writer, who started contributing to The Roar in 2012, originally under the pen name Allanthus. His first book, A World in Conflict; the Global Battle For Rugby Supremacy was released in Dec 2017 to critical acclaim. For details on the book visit www.geoffparkes.com Meanwhile, his twin goals of achieving a single figure golf handicap and owning a fast racehorse remain tantalisingly out of reach.
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The highly anticipated Presidents Cup returned to Royal Melbourne Golf Club for the third time yesterday – the site of the only International Team victory in 12 attempts – with the honour of striking the first blow in anger bestowed upon USA player Justin Thomas.
If the flood of media reports and commentary that followed the mediated settlement of the Israel Folau versus Rugby Australia matter are to be believed, the outcome was a conclusive victory for Folau over his ex-employer, and a dagger blow for CEO Raelene Castle.
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Hi KP,
Thanks for the post, but no point in going over old ground, particularly with regard to Folau ignoring his manager’s advice to return to Sydney to meet with RA after he made his post, potentially to discuss a resolution acceptable to both sides.
Of course RA had alternatives, they just chose a path unpalatable to you and others. The rest of it contains a fair bit of supposition. Cheers.
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“The right to preach things about trying to save people from the hell fires is enshrined in the Universal Declaration Of Human Rights. Australia is signed up to that.”
So when all hell broke loose in the media and with sponsors when Folau made his second post this year, Raelene Castle should have fronted the media and defended Folau’s right to post what he did, and quoted this ‘right’?
Righto then… The thing you conveniently ignore is that as soon as Folau did this he polarised people, with or against him, forcing RA into a position where they had to act, for or against him. (They had tried appeasement the first time).
As soon as RA was put into that position – by Folau’s post, not any action of theirs – they were always on a hiding to nothing, guaranteed to disappoint/anger one side or the other.
Your view is coloured by the fact that you were on the side that was disappointed.
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Thanks for the thoughtful post Gilbert, even though we differ as to the extent to which RA achieved a positive outcome.
Agree about Qantas but surely, the fact that Folau is not reinstated as a player and they are now fully disassociated from him is a massive win, compared to where they were a week ago?
I’m also aware that the mindset of RA with respect to the settlement process and outcome was not at all one of concession or ‘caving’. There will be people looking from outside who don’t believe that but so be it.
Although in material terms, that aspect really means nothing now, either way.
Why everyone got it wrong about Rugby Australia and Israel Folau
C’mon Colonel… is the game better off with the Folau matter settled or not?
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Hi Peter
Those assertions you’ve quoted I believe are uncontroversial, are a matter of record, and have been covered off at numerous stages during this affair.
And, just in case you’re thinking of asking, no I’m not about to go and locate and post the links.
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Happy for you to challenge points raised in the article James.
But “it was… accept it” is that the best you can do?
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Not sure if you’re interested or not someone, but a reporter at the centre of the Tele’s $8m settlement story has today written another story, this time quoting settlement at $3m.
Not a word of explanation as to the difference, or acknowledgment of the previous figure. Just $5m disappeared into the ether at the click of a mouse.
But the damage is already done, at the point an unsubstantiated figure is put out for people everywhere to form their opinions on, regardless of whether or not it is factual or not. Just like you have done, giving equal credence to this number and the real number and ‘disagreeing’ with this article as a result.
It’s not about whether I’m right or not. One of the points made in the article is that people who are ill-informed, still plough ahead and provide commentary, ignorant, wilfully or otherwise, of the true facts.
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He’s a popular pick Bourkos, and imo he improved last year with experience and a bit more condition on him. It will be good to watch his progress again in 2020. But I think just at the moment, he’s a long way from being a Test player like many are talking him up as.
Malolua was dreadfully unlucky to miss the World Cup with that awful injury, he appeals to me as a more robust and dynamic halfback at this stage.
It’s a big Super Rugby season ahead for…
Cheers Brett, and great to see a rugby writer find something to write about other than you know who… 😊
I think halfback will be really interesting. Potentially the two best halfbacks in the Australian franchises are Malolua and Lomani, meaning that of contenders for the Wallabies only Powell and Gordon might be regular starters.
Obviously that would help give them inside running for the Wallabies, and is potentially a wee bit of an issue with respect to bringing on new contenders. To your article, it will be fascinating to see how Powell is regarded by the new set up compared to under Cheika.
It’s a big Super Rugby season ahead for…
It’s true that I wasn’t in the room someone, nor have I had anybody who was tell me the exact amount of the settlement – that would be breaching their agreement to keep the amount confidential.
But as Wayne Smith explains in the thread above, it is quite possible for writers who are invested in rugby and who have key contacts to discern with a reasonable amount of accuracy, what the final settlement was.
If you want to assign equal weight to the Daily Telegraph’s $8m you’re free to do so, but I’m backing my sources, and my motivation, over theirs.
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I think that reflects the difference between a personal case Josh, and a business case.
When it’s personal it’s more emotional and personal pride is at stake, so yes it can be more difficult to achieve mediated settlements with apologies – think of matrimonial disputes for example.
In this case, it’s not Raelene Castle’s money or game that she’s playing with. There are many more stakeholders she’s representing. So it’s more likely that the business (board and executive) in conjunction with lawyers and insurance companies, are going to make a pragmatic decision.
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No, that’s your inference Sheek, not mine.
My opinion on Folau is neither here nor there. I have one, and have expressed at times, but I have never been strident about it throughout this whole debate.
The article is about a large section of the media claiming ‘humiliation’ for Rugby Australia as a result of settling. I’ve offered an explanation for why I think this is wrong and that Rugby Australia in fact got a successful outcome from the mediation.
It’s got nothing at all to do with me thinking “I’m right”.
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Cheers AJ, and a good shout for Wayne. It shouldn’t be underestimated how brave it was for him to take the position he did on Saturday when his own newspaper is so firmly of the opposite view.
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Wayne S: I think you missed the joke. I wasn’t referring to Blondy’s comment.
Why everyone got it wrong about Rugby Australia and Israel Folau
It’s a good question pm because this matter hasn’t been run to a full conclusion vis a vis a court judgement. So there will be other sporting codes nervously hoping that they aren’t going to have their social media policy and employment agreements tested in a similar way.
You’d have to think it’s going to happen to somebody, at sometime.
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“I can’t claim to have read exhaustively on this whole scandal”
You’ve done very well to avoid it, mate!
Thanks for taking the time to comment.
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That would be a turn up robbo, JON back in the house.
Although I’m not sure how that appointment would help unify Australian rugby.
It would though ensure plenty more for us to write and talk about.
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But none of those groups are “my opponents” Chris.
You’re doing exactly what my article supposes – framing the mediation outcome in terms of where you sit on the matter. Which is fine for you because your view is important to you – but it bears no relevance for Rugby Australia who, unlike everyone else dealing in hypotheticals, actually had something at stake.
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And you happen to know this… how exactly, Wayne?
If you happen to be one of RA’s lawyers then I’ll pay that. But I reckon that’s unlikely.
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Absolutely Ralph. Whoever paid what to who, rugby is definitely the winner here.
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The Roar’s algorithms are very sensitive to a jock accent! 😂
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Yes, Paul. A point missed by many of the non-rugby press.
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You may have upset Blondie. After all, she’s got a heart of glass.
Why everyone got it wrong about Rugby Australia and Israel Folau
As others have already explained, it isn’t unusual or noteworthy in itself that RA settled. It would have been more unusual if this had gone to court.
Why everyone got it wrong about Rugby Australia and Israel Folau
Agree with that Arnab. He also made a 76 against South Africa at Centurion when Steyn was almost unplayable – as gutsy an innings as you’d ever see.
Way too harsh on Nicholls, Ronan, he’s a very solid player and it will be a big surprise if he doesn’t come off at some point in this series. But hard to argue with the rest of it. 😂
Starc runs riot against rattled New Zealand