The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
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The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
You’re right, it shouldn’t be so hard, Hughi.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
It’s slowly getting out more into the mainstream, CWM, and the big headline legal cases in rugby and AFL will help that even more. There should be no need for anyone to cover anything up.
In general, the sports have shifted a bit, but still, too much goes into optics/arse covering and not enough into genuine attempts to redesign how the games are played.
That will come, but it’s all a bit slower than it should be.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Plenty of time yet for Perofeta to get in a bit of kicking practice, RT!
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
That’s an incredible stat, Ray.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
I get the anger and emotion SA, but the reality is that they are totally separate incidents, treated separately.
Fa’agase was deemed to have met the red card threshold, thus he goes up to the judiciary. Now, most people think that’s an unfair decision, specifically, because of mitigating factors, but what happened to him is within the framework.
Finau’s hit was late, crude and poor. But because it didn’t meet any red card threshold, that’s the end of it, no citing, no judiciary. Because he was found to have made no head contact, and to have had an arm wrapping, it was never going to be more than a YC. So no citing.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Hi Muzzo. No doubt the Landers left a few points out there in the first half.
They’re a side on the up, and I guess those are the things a developing side has to work through.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
The game has shifted half-way towards that by adopting the ‘on report’ for the TMO to assess within 10 minutes.
It’s a far improved system, taking those stoppages out of the game while the referee played cop, judge and jury on the field.
But to go further and allow players to play and be dealt with after the match? That’s not going to fly in the NH. They don’t care about what the NRL does, and anything that might be perceived as watering down actions around safety (whether real or not) is a non-starter.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
I spoke with him afterwards, TWAS. He was very disappointed with his own handling errors. Pledged to work extra hard this week – which is saying something given the effort he’s been putting in since the start of preseason.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
That was probably when the full extent of the debt and the ongoing deficit in operating costs was understood Hamish got the flick and the CFO stepped in.
There, fixed that up for you, James.
RA is entitled to change their mind about the path forward for high performance rugby, but they’ll need to be careful around what representations were made to the Rebels and other franchises, that may were relied upon. Which is what is at the centre of discussions.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Thanks Clarke, that’s exactly what I was trying to say.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
That’s a very good way of putting it, Tim.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
The thought of my missus vaulting a fence and charging towards me would be very scary indeed, TLN!
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
RA had transparency all along, Andy.
What hasn’t yet come out is the detail around communication over a long period of time, any undertakings that were made, and what the Rebels might reasonably have relied upon.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Because RA had been communicating with them all along about the financial situation, James.
And how the situation was being managed.
And their role in it (annual grants being withheld)
It didn’t spring up out of thin air.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
That’s exactly my point. Why is moving forward not ‘using’ the ball?
The referee is saying that using the ball can only be the halfback passing it. Thus, he’s telling them how they must play.
I like the ‘use it’ call for when the front rows are down, and the halfback might not be aware. Then it’s good for the refs to allow play to continue like that.
But I must have missed when the game decided you can only have scrum pushovers if you do it immediately, on the first shove.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Two different arguments, numpty. No question Christie should have done what the referee said. But I still don’t like the referee telling sides how they should play.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Good point about those scrums on Friday night, Paul.
Just goes to show that you can have a fair dinkum scrum battle without the sides resorting to niggly tactics.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Nice post Coker and glad you didn’t go to Invercargill!
Disagree about the Drua though. I thought they played well on attack in Hamilton and are making good strides forward. And will be almost impossible to beat at home.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
The Landers definitely got too loose after opening up those opportunities, OM.
You’re right about the 9/10 combo, but even so, I still think Fakatava is kicking too much ball away in the attacking half.
I really like the look of Ajay Faleafaga. Has more than a bit of Lima Sopoaga about him. And a Dunedin club man too, which is an added bonus!
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
It certainly looks like RA made a decision to stop talking to the Rebels and let them fall into VA, and from there, into liquidation, DGS.
Now that it hasn’t happened that way, these talks are starting from a far worse place than if the they’d happened at the time.
Surely it should come as no surprise that the directors would fight for themselves and their club. And now, the financial and reputational costs to RA will be far higher than they would have been.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Not sure what you mean by “trying to milk a penalty try”, Guess?
Any side is entitled to attempt to score a try how they choose. If you think you have a dominant scrum you’re entitled to use it. Same as if you think you have a dominant line out maul drive and you kick to the corners instead of for goal.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
It is a tough one, Rongowhakaata, and I’m not quite sure how I feel about it myself. There’s good arguments both ways.
Main thing is, we hope that ALB gets some decent time off and doesn’t develop any ill effects.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Congrats on Ireland’s 6N win, mz. Clearly the dominant side once again.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion
Someone else made the same point elsewhere on the thread, Carlin.
Losing Ardie is proving no bad thing. Forces the other guys to step up.
The Wrap: Reds light up Melbourne, while it's lights out for TV over Lienert-Brown concussion