Rugby League Commission getting it right

Yes but England's lower down the pecking order of fantastic places to live Oikee...NZ unfortunately is not. Now I"m not saying Aotearoa is a better place to live than Oz, but that they're about equal. I think most UK-ites couldn't argue for the UK being a better place than Australia...bigger and with more trappings, but better would be a stretch!

But what about those of us who would be offended by the pretension that there are in fact entities which even in jest you are 'offering' your child to. It smells of PC-isms there Oikee...it's not alright to treat real world religions as a serious/alive phenomenon, but it is alright to pretend that made-up religions are real, because its just a bit of a laugh. I foresee some human right issues with that actually ;)

Yes but if the NRL got a slice of the pie they may just be keen. A New Zealand Origin series or concept is no more a waste of time than State of Origin. It's attitudes like yours looking to prevent the game growing that need to be changed. Have you stopped to think how a NZ origin series could promote and encourage more players to take up the game in NZ? An origin series can.only be beneficial for NZ league and league in General

Why would they? There is no island born players in the All Blacks, so I don't know why they would be anything other than supportive

Because the NRL clubs pay their wages and without NRL players any NZ origin will be waste of time and money. Imagine if the Pacific Islands have a union version Island of Origin in NZ using players from super rugby the NZRU won't have any of it and will stop it.

Why should the NRL block the Kiwis having their own Origin Series? If the NRL had the rights to it you could guarantee it will start in next to no time. It's bs for them to block it and only shows that the welfare of Australian League is paramount opposed to growing the game internationally. what a weekend it would be to have Origin New Zealand on Friday and State of Origin on Saturday or Sunday

I had a feeling the NRL clubs will block any attempts for a NZO and rightly so but it should be up to the ARLC to put some of the NRL TV money from NZ broadcasters into a NZO for payments and insurance for injuries. The Kiwis winning the RLWC couldn't compete with Bledisloe cup so there's no chance rugby league international between the two countries doing the same. A Warriors grand final win will be the closest thing to it.

yes League is a minority sport but the times when NZ has had close to their full strength side available they have won the Four Nations and the World Cup. With the changing of the eligibility rules it will close the door on origin eligibility for many who will now switch their allegiances back to their homelands be that NZ or the Pacific Islands. Sure there are some flaws and possible challenges to come into the new guidelines set down by the ARLC and only time will tell how successful it is. I doubt the Aus vs NZ clash will rival the Bledisloe within the next 5 years but it has the potential to do so. If the NZRL manages to sort out a NZ version of SOO as they have been threatening to do for years things could become very interesting. I spoke with Jim Doyle two years ago in regards to the matter and at the time he was looking at two specific teams NZ heritage and NZ Pacific Heritage all players must be eligible for New Zealand. Earlier this year the NZO came up again and they looked at the North vs South or City vs Country basically Auckland vs the rest. Jim mentioned that the biggest hurdle to getting a NZO started was the NRL as all the players or 99% of them are contracted to the NRL and their clubs. Not to mention their is no stand alone weekend for SOO. All 16 clubs have issues with releasing players to play SOO then having their players back up or not back up only days later. Some teams such as Brisbane and Melbourne come SOO are decimated by players heading to the big games. Now as it stands it is highly unlikely the NRL clubs including the Warriors would be too happy about releasing another 40 players to play NZO. Now once they can or if they get over that obstacle I believe the NZO concept will not be too far away.

The NZRL can't even look after its own backyard so there is no way in hell they will be able to come up with something like origin. Internal disputes have rear its ugly head again not even a month when the ceo appointed by the NZ government left. On talk back radio last saturday some provincial chaiman had challenge the NZRL playing numbers printed on their website saying its four times the amount of players they have and a club vice president in Auckland have come out saying that NZRL asked to add all touch and tag currently playing in a comp at their grounds even if the club aren't the one running it. I can see the NZRL going back to their old aways.

It seems to me the NZRl is wanting the ARLC to fix ther problems for them. The problem is for the nzrl to figure out. Develop thier own SOO concept, im sure it would be a smash in NZ. The best kiwi players playing each other.It doesnt necessarily have to be north vs south but if that is what NZ in general is most passionate about then that is what it should be. Also i think the 13 yr old rule is a great idea. Seriously how many players will get recruited at that age. They are more likley to be signed on scholarships keeping the NZ players. It also protects the Aust game by developing players who are late bloomers from competing against the larger polynesian players who seldom imo go onto to be anything special at senior level despite their dominance in the junior system. At the end of the day it is still an Australian competition and its up to NZ to develop thier own pathways.

A full strength NZ team would really e a top match for a full strengh Australian team and tests between Aust and NZ could eventually rival origin and exeed Bledisloh Cup, That will never happen in New Zealand mate, like many have mention before rugby league is a minority sport here and the fact that Origin is the pinnacle of rugby league in Australia will never see that exceed Bledisloe in New Zealand anyway.

It's origin mate. The only RL game that ALL Aussies watch or care about. It aint going anywhere

I am not a mind reader, Tamou even said himself that choosing to play for NSW and Australia was a financial decision. Choosing to play for a different country should not be a finacial decsion. The ARLC should be looking to make tests 50K a game and leaving origin at 20K a game. A full strength NZ team would really e a top match for a full strengh Australian team and tests between Aust and NZ could eventually rival origin and exeed Bledisloh Cup, as long as Australia stops poaching NZ's players. You shouldbe abe to see thebig picture.

No one outside of NZ will be selected for the national schoolboys team in either code. My two sons can be selected by Queensland union schools rep teams since they go to a Brisbane school but they won't be for rugby league rep teams. Imagine kids from NZ, PNG and Pacific Islands attending Brisbane high schools but won't be able to play for Queensland. this ruling is not only fraud but it will make this kids outcast in their own states and will probably lose them to union 15's & 7's or AFL.

What a cowardly comment Oikee your clutching at straws and come across as rather desperate. What a joke. Play the ball not the man.

Interesting how my comment about Dean making things up has been removed however his comment accusing me of making things up stays visible. Interesting

Ryan - the day origin is threaten with litigation regarding the new eligibility policy will be the day origin dies. I've stated this elsewhere, NZRL must monitor via a data base the movements of every register NZ player in NZ & around australia. Upon registering (post 13yrs) with a junior club a waiver form must be read & co signed by a parent/guardian acknowledging the eligibility rules. Your name will then be forwarded to your respected nation of origin, from this point NZRL or other organisation should provide you with a calendar of trials/camps & clinics that would be of importance for you to attend. Try this on for size......Now I understand it takes at least 4yrs to become a Australian citizen during that time considering you arrive here when your 14 you would have been expose & nurture by the NZ expat football programme. Through the programme your now a hot shot ready to play test football at the tender age of 18yrs.Remember only 1 of 10 from the u20's go on to play NRL so the odds are far least if you test bound.Now is that better than playing Orgin? The key to it is NZRL building relationship & offering scholarships/camps/seminars/clinics to all their members both in NZ and here.

Excuse my ignorance, but have there been many examples of players going straight to the Kangeroo's but never playing SOO?

You are so ridiculous there is no point even debating anything with you. Yes they may become Aussies OK but they are still ineligible to play state of Origin if they have not lived in Queensland or NSW before they were 13. It really is that simple but it seems that is really hard for you to understand. Just as a Victorian or South Australian could not play Origin if he has not lived in either state by the age of 13. Stop trying to pick fights and just stick to the facts son

I only hvae an issue with Tamou for the reasons I stated as he had already represented NZ at some level. All the others yes they are Kiwis but like you said they have all lived except QC most of their lives in Australia. QC I don't care too much about because firstly he has played all his rep footy in Australia and secondly I don't actually rate the guy.