Brilliant carnival closer reveals Cox Plate is no Dundeel

By Justin Cinque / Expert

John Singleton sacked Gai Waterhouse on Saturday but for entirely different reasons 2013 Sydney Cup Day will be looked back on as an influential day in the post Black Caviar-era.

It was the most revealing meeting all season. I wouldn’t be surprised if the 2013 Caulfield Cup, Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup winners raced at Randwick.

You can probably bet more confidently on the Caulfield Guineas winner coming from the Champagne Stakes (1600m, Group 1, two-year olds) field.

If I could pick one horse from Saturday to own, I’d go with All Too Hard – a $30m colt could solve a lot of life’s problems.

But if I was to choose one horse to race over the next few seasons, I’d take Champagne Stakes winner Guelph in a heartbeat.

In my whole life, I don’t think I’ve ever had a bigger opinion of an autumn two-year old than Guelph. Guelph is so good I rate her better Pierro – who won last year’s two-year Triple Crown – at the same age. Albeit, I concede there was more depth in the juveniles last season.

Guelph’s victory in the Champagne was from the top drawer. On a day when nothing back in the field got close to winning, Guelph won.

At the 200, she was six lengths off Fuerza, who had turned the famed mile into a staying test after Jim Cassidy went for home at the 800m mark.

The acceleration Guelph showed in the last 200m was special. Even the best two-year olds don’t finish off a tough mile like Guelph did on Saturday. She is well poised to have an outstanding spring.

So much so that right now my hypothetical $10 for the Cox Plate (2040m, Group 1, weight-for-age) would be sitting on the nose of Guelph. If bookies actually had her in the market, you could delete the word ‘hypothetical’ from the previous sentence.

I haven’t forgotten the old adage that three-year old fillies don’t win Cox Plates. Only one filly, Surround in 1976, has been successful in the Cox Plate and Surround is remembered as the greatest three-year old filly of all-time.

But there’s no reason why Guelph can’t arrest that title in the next 12 months. She is a complete two-year old.

Physically well put together – the most beautiful mover and regally bred. Her father, Exceed and Excel, is almost certainly going to win the leading stallion award at the end of the season. And her mother, Camarilla, was a star two-year old.

In 2007, Camarilla won the Sires Produce (1400m, Group 1, two-year olds) – a race Guelph claimed emphatically two weeks ago.

Camarilla’s dam, Camarena, was an outstanding mare. She won the 2000 Queensland Derby (2400m, Group 1) at three before running second in both the Rupert Clarke (1400m, Group 1, handicap) and Mackinnon Stakes (2000m, Group 1, weight-for-age) in the spring of the same year.

Guelph heads to the paddock now for her winter spell. If she continues to develop physically she could take the spring by storm.

On Saturday morning, there were plenty of people happy to tell you Triple Crown-winning three-year old It’s A Dundeel had a mortgage on the Spring Carnival. If the Melbourne Cup (3200m, Group 1, handicap) wasn’t at his mercy, he had at least two hooves on the Cox Plate.

I’ll tell you, he has no hooves on the Cox Plate right now. I’ve been on the Dundeel bandwagon for eight months – he’s a special racehorse. But this could be the time to jump off.

In Australia this season, ten Group 1s have been won by three-year olds against older horses – It’s A Dundeel (a four-time Group 1 winner) has none.

It’s A Dundeel has weaknesses – he is 0-3 (favourite each time) when racing later than fourth-up from a spell; he’s never won (0-2) the Melbourne (anti-clockwise) way of going; and he’s never won a race with good early speed (0-2).

Not only that but he needs to be ridden behind the pace to perform well.

On Saturday, as a heavily backed $1.28 favourite and meeting older horses at Group 1 level for the first time, It’s A Dundeel faced his stiffest test in the Queen Elizabeth (2000m, weight-for-age).

It’s A Dundeel was expected to win a race littered with good horses – Silent Achiever (2012 NZ Derby winner), Manighar (2012 Australian Cup, Ranvet Stakes and BMW winner) and Reliable Man (2011 French Derby winner) – but he never threatened in a second-place finish.

Reliable Man, a five-year old stallion, who ran well behind world stars So You Think and Danedream in Engalnd last season, proved too good. This Chris Waller-trained import is a serious player in anything he enters in Australia.

Just before the winning post on Saturday, Reliable Man injured himself. Initial reports indicated a tendon but the injury appears to be less serious. In any case, his immediate racing future is in doubt.

But if Waller can get him back for the spring, I’ve no doubt Reliable Man is good enough to win any major he is set for.

Personally, I’d aim him for the Cox Plate second-up. I think his best form comes early in a prep (not dissimilar to It’s A Dundeel) and ridden positively around Moonee Valley, he will be hard to get past.

Since 1920, two horses have an All Aged (1400m, Group 1, weight-for-age) placing and Melbourne Cup victory next to their name. They are Peter Pan (first 1935 All Aged, 1932 and 1934 Melbourne Cup) and Nightmarch (second 1930 All Aged, first 1929 Melbourne Cup).

Off his third-placing in Saturday’s All Aged, Fiorente, the runner up in last-year’s Melbourne Cup, is a really good chance of joining that list in the spring. He was awesome on Saturday – last at the 100m mark, he darted through the ruck to pinch third at the death.

Jockey Tommy Berry summed it up well post-race when he said, “I wish it was a mile [instead of 1400m]” because Fiorente may have won. It is worth noting that between 1866 and 2004, the All Aged was run over a mile.

Gai Waterhouse will probably send Fiorente to Brisbane for the Doomben Cup (2020m, Group 1, weight-for-age) next month before giving him a spell. Fiorente is a serious Melbourne Cup player.

The All Aged winner All Too Hard was outstanding in his last race in Australia. The half to Black Caviar will now be prepared for his swansong, the Queen Anne Stakes (1609m, Group 1, weight-for-age) at Royal Ascot in June.

In England, he will compete as a ‘southern-hemisphere four-year old,’ which means he will carry only 0.5kgs less than the older horses (in Australia he’d have a two-kilo pull) including Dubai World Cup (2000m, Group 1, weight-for-age) winner Animal Kingdom.

I have great confidence in All Too Hard’s ability. I think he’s the best sprinter-miler in the world and his experience down the Flemington straight course (where he won brilliantly on debut) gives me confidence the Ascot straight track will pose no problems for him.

Horses with great Flemington straight form invariably run well at Royal Ascot. In fact, most Australian entrants at the Royal meeting have finished in the top four of their respective races but we have never won a Queen Anne.

With Australian racing’s focus about to move to Brisbane, I can’t wait for the BTC Cup (1200m, Group 1, weight-for-age) clash between Group 1 maidens Buffering and Rain Affair next month.

Buffering returned to the racetrack with an emphatic three-length win in the Victory Stakes (1200m, Group 2, weight-for-age) on Saturday at Doomben.

The Rob Heathcote-trained five-year old was pressured in the lead but found plenty in the concluding stages to indicate he has reclaimed the form that saw him finish a nose second to Hay List in last year’s Newmarket Handicap (1200m, Group 1).

Rain Affair, on the other hand, recorded his second consecutive runners’ up placing in the All Aged. If it wasn’t for the brilliant finishing burst of All Too Hard, he would’ve won.

Joe Pride lost Rain Affair in the spring – his form went horribly sour – but he’s back to his best now.

I wonder if More Joyous will join Rain Affair and Buffering in the BTC Cup. John Singleton hasn’t found a new trainer for the ten-time Group 1-winner but should MJ be given a full bill of health, Singo has intentions of racing her in Brisbane.

I think More Joyous would acquit herself well in a fast-run 1200m race.

The only race to underwhelm on Saturday was the Sydney Cup (3200m, Group 1, handicap). A sub-standard field of ten lined up and Melbourne Cup-winning trainer Robert Hickmott enjoyed another two-mile feature with victor Mourayan, who was eighth behind Green Moon last November.

The race was full of disappointments – Niwot (ninth) has been retired, while the future of stablemate Maluckyday (seventh) is in doubt. Somehow, Kelinni (sixth), who was fourth in the Melbourne Cup, managed to finish two spots further back on Saturday despite the massive class drop.

Next weekend, the spotlight is on Hawkesbury in western Sydney for their Guineas (1400m, Listed, three-year olds) meeting. On the Gold Coast, the Hollindale (1800m, Group 2, weight-for-age) is the feature.

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-06T11:50:20+00:00

Sh00ter

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Hi Justin forgive the brief msg on my not so smart phone but supercool or fiveandahalfstar will win the cox plate I am certain of it. Drago could be the X factor horse to watch. Doubt we saw the cups winners at randwick as there will be the usual quality of European stayers brought in later to mill over. Fiorente and Gerry Ryan's horse have a good head start. Early markets are a joke now after green moon opens at $12 and wins at $26 in the cup, prepost betting is for mugs! Present company excluded so as not to tarnish you with that brush.

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2013-04-30T20:38:25+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


He did under Irish ownership for Coolmore. So yes, an Australian horse has won a Queen Anne but Australia (or an Australian trainer) never has.

2013-04-30T12:36:56+00:00

Goondiwindi Grey

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I'm pretty sure Haradsun went to Ascot and won the Queen Anne Stakes.

2013-04-29T11:58:14+00:00

Eight-paws

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Andrew - that would be amazing if Dunlop brought both Red Cadeaux and Unbridled Command. Red Cadeaux is the poster child for international racing. Talk about a horse that's consistent on a range of distances and surfaces, Red Cadeaux has that in spades. I would love to see a group of the classy international horses line up for the Cox Plate. Overall, I think it's great for the sport and brings more prestige to Australia.

2013-04-29T09:06:13+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Sheikh al Thani has said he's staying in Europe - although he did say that last year too! If Al Kazeem were to make the trip, I'd be keen on him...and probably Thought Worthy too for Lloyd.

2013-04-29T07:22:58+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

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He was huge, but it will be interesting to see where they head with Drago...I'd prefer to see him at Flemington as opposed to Moonee Valley! Eight-paws is right, Unbridled Command is a chance. Will be good to see him with Ed Dunlop, without a doubt the world's premier traveller of horses as we've seen with Red Cadeaux... Perhaps Red Cadeaux might target the Cox Plate instead of the Melbourne Cup, given he ran second in the Dubai World Cup and is headed to the Singapore International Cup after yesterday's third in the Tenno Sho (3200m)? Pretty amazing really, an amazingly versatile galloper for this day and age.

2013-04-29T07:02:19+00:00

Scuba

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Will have to see the weights, but I won't be ruling out Dunaden to do a Peter Pan. Good run in Dubai, better on the weekend back in Europe, and surely the Cup won't be run at a farcical tempo two years in a row.

2013-04-29T06:56:58+00:00

Scuba

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Massive run Drago, chequered run in the straight and should have been very close to Guelph and Fuerza at the end. For a horse having only his third start (against mostly much more seasoned opposition) he was outstanding.

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2013-04-29T03:43:54+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Cam, I remember Steve Moran, formerly of TVN, badgering Mark Kavanagh in an interview on Racing Review to run Whobe in the Cox Plate - I think Steve whacked him pre-post but Kav wasn't having a bar of it. In the end, Kav was getting peeved off. I think the decision was justified though - the 2008 Cox Plate was devoid of speed and Whobe was unimpressive in the substantially weaker Vase on the same day. As for AJ, she would've bolted in 2011. That was a massive missed opportunity. She'll be the horse to beat this year.

2013-04-29T03:18:10+00:00

Cameron Rose

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I do love three year olds in the Cox Plate Justin! They just add so much to the race, regardess of the quality of older horses. The two biggest missed opportunities in my time would have to be Whobegotyou and Atlantic Jewel. Kav must have been absoutely certain that Maldivian was going to win the Cox in Whobe's year, I'll say that. And if only they'd gone to the Cox instead of the Wakeful with AJ, a Plate that will go down as one of the weakest in history.

2013-04-29T02:56:17+00:00

Geoff Parkes

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I'm with you Andrew. I think Sat proved IAD is no superstar who can win under any circumstances, but there were plenty of excuses for him, first time with the experienced horses and so on, and he still acquitted himself ok. I agree that he's already shown in one run that he can settle closer and still deliver the sprint finish, and I'm sure they'll try to do this again. We may be proven wrong in Spring but too early to drop off just yet. The winner was very impressive. I hope the injury isn't serious.

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2013-04-29T02:41:06+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


Mate, I can't even tip the MC winner 800 out but I loved Fiorente's run on Saturday.

2013-04-29T02:38:00+00:00

Jason Cave

Guest


Which horse impressed you from a Melbourne Cup perspective? Or, would it be better to wait until the Mackinnon and Geelong Cup before deciding who'll be favourite for the Cup?

2013-04-29T01:58:56+00:00

Eight-paws

Guest


Unbridled Command will be a serious contender in the Cox Plate.

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2013-04-29T01:43:44+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


No love for Drago, Hawk? The second tenner is going on him ;)

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2013-04-29T01:41:47+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


There's always three-year olds Alfred. And, if you ask Cam Rose, he'll tell you they always run well.

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2013-04-29T01:40:32+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


You don't seriously think he'll go on. Every time Hawkes or Harvey say "race on" the idea is squashed quickly.

2013-04-29T01:29:24+00:00

Alfred Chan

Expert


Good question. For me: Manighar (if he races on) Green Moon Reliable Man (if he races on) Happy Trails Puissance de Lune Silent Achiever Atlantic Jewel Secret Admirer Super Cool Tatra Fiveandahalfstar Sacred Falls Commanding Jewel Norzita I think six will still be there come October. The next few to come into the field would be: Mourayan, Fiorente, Ethiopia, Solzhenitsyn, Sidestep, Guelph, Kelinni, Julienus, Jet Away and Tanby. The current three year old class is just too good and will take up 6+ spots in the field. I would not be surprised if there were no three year olds in this year's Cox Plate.

2013-04-29T01:05:04+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Actually, if you were to give a Cox Plate field now, who would it include? I'd probably say something like: It's A Dundeel Super Cool Puissance de Lune Atlantic Jewel Fiorente Sacred Falls All Too Hard (in the hope he races on) Trade Storm Green Moon Fiveandahalfstar Reliable Man (if the injury isn't too severe) Norzita Royal Descent Guelph How many of those will actually get there? I'll say four.

2013-04-29T00:47:12+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Don't think a filly has won since Surround in 1976 - she became the only 3yo filly to win the Cox Plate. Storm Queen won it 10 years before that. Believe Anamato was the last filly to tackle the boys in 2006.

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