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Cameron Rose

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I've never heard a conversation about footy or cricket that I haven't wanted to join in immediately. If you disagree with me, you'll be made to work very hard to change my mind!

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I think you’ll find it’s accurate Ross, I remember verifying it at the time before writing about it.

Media bullying of Jordan De Goey has been a disgusting witch-hunt

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Good piece Chris.

To me, the targeting of Jordan in this instance was way over and above. I get why. It’s a juicy story, he has history, recent history at that, and he may not do himself any favours. So he is the easiest possible target. But that doesn’t make it right for an industry that loves praising itself for handling of mental health, to then be selective about it, over an incident that had no victims.

Jordan De Goey’s punishment cannot be blamed on the media, nor can Collingwood be accused of being too soft

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Well said Liam, even though I disagree with you.

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Not true, Birdman.

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Excellent comments Nick.

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I think I have answered the question about my own children Macca, by talking about nuance and context and history. I don’t have a hard and fast rule that I apply to complex scenarios such as these.

The Broad touch was certainly a funny one. I don’t think I would have overturned it. Was Richmond the overall better team on the night? Yes. Would Carlton have won if it wasn’t overturned? Almost certainly.

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Thank you FabPhil.

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Excellent comment.

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I think the treatment of JHF has also been beyond the pale, and yet another consequence of the stupid bye rounds. Small things get blown up beyond all proportion because of the same amount of media to fill, but with fewer games.

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And that is fair enough.

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Well said Mr Murray, enjoying all of your commentary and finding it well balanced.

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I think there is more nuance than you are conceding here Dingo.

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Thanks for the compliment GG, and wonderful alliteration at the end there. Seems we’ll have to disagree on this one.

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Sorry for the delayed response Macca, I’ve just been re-watching last Thursday night’s game.

My kids, 10 and 8, are certainly approaching social media age, and even now with the Youtube channels and so on, they’ll watch them for as long as you let them. Social media is the complex issue to grapple with, let alone the nuances of respect and responsibility for everyone, trust, flirting, consent, alcohol, everything that goes into the mix when it comes to partying and such. But, I do have to keep going back to the parties involved and the context that we have or don’t have.

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Firstly, thank you for the opening comment. Secondly, yes, I am one of the over 40’s. Thirdly, this reminds me I should update my profile pic, which was taken when I was early 30’s maybe!

It’s okay for people to be late maturers, and the market has and will value Jordan at the appropriate rate. If his employer doesn’t think he is offering value for money, they have the right to offer him less or remove him from the organisation.

I think the conversation needs to be more nuanced on this particuar issue, specifically the actions and thoughts of the people involved, and the relationship that generation has with social media. And yes, I do believe Jordan has been the victim of a merciless and bullying pile-on as an easy target here.

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I believe it does matter actually.

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I keep coming back to the context of the situation, rather than snippets on which de Goey is being hanged, but also the relationship that generation has with social media / filming. I feel like there is far more nuance here than is being allowed for.

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A fair comment, but it seems to me that for the generation we are talking about, social media and particularly capturing things on film is like breathing to them. And thus so much context can be lost.

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Well said.

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Absolutely considered points Charlie, and I appreciate them. But here’s the thing, if your club did pay him $800K a year, would you still support them, or would you boycott the club for the entirety of his contract? If he led your club to a flag, would be ecstatic and celebrating the same as if they did it without him? My guess is nothing would change, and you would still barrack as fervently as before. Ultimately, he’s a footballer.

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Plenty of men speaking on behalf of the woman in question Peter. Like the use of caveman too.

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1. I’m not a lawyer Macca, but if we took this to a courtroom, my understanding is that you have to be proven guilty of an accusation before prior history can enter the equation. What is JDG guilty of here?
2. Relevance?
3. I agree with you, but JDG wasn’t with any of them, or if he wasn’t, he didn’t perform that action on them.

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I don’t understand how that last sentence could possibly be the case Peter, given the media makes such a big deal about how sensitive they are over the mental health of footballers.

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I have spoken to females Christo, and the common refrain is “de Goey is a dickhead”.

What I find fascinating is how many males leading the hysteria are soooo happy to speak on behalf of a voiceless woman. Except for the fact that she wasn’t voiceless in this case, and has no issue.

As for the 26yo, this is where maturity comes into it, right. I’d love to meet the person who has lived any length of years or decades beyond 26 that doesn’t look back and wonder “what was I thinking” at some of their decision-making, etc. We put these people in the spotlight, and then tear them down the second doesn’t fit within our own boundaries.

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So you side with all of the persecution of people throughout history, just because they were different. Not everyone is cut from the same cloth, thankfully.

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