Sorry Singo: why I opposed More Joyous in the All Aged

By Andrew Hawkins / Expert

The fallout from Saturday’s All Aged Stakes is set to dominate headlines this week, ensuring racing remains on the front pages of the Sydney newspapers beyond the conclusion of the autumn carnival.

It promised to be the race of the carnival and it didn’t disappoint, although it will long be remembered for the post-race theatrics of John Singleton and Gai Waterhouse rather than the racetrack performance of All Too Hard.

The antics of All Too Hard would normally have made the headlines. Now that Black Caviar is off to the breeding barn, he represents the closest link to her.

And even though he’ll also be gone come August, he still attracts publicity, somewhat due to his ability but mostly due to his pedigree.

That’s not to say he’s short of talent, though. He looked no chance up the Randwick rise on Saturday and it looked as though his Sydney hoodoo would continue, but he stretched out in the manner of a top liner to grab a gallant Rain Affair. It was electric.

Nevertheless, it shouldn’t come as any surprise that two of racing’s biggest egos, two of racing’s shrewdest minds and two of the most publicity-conscious personalities managed to steal the headlines on the final day of the Sydney Carnival.

Gai Waterhouse vs John Singleton. Heck, the Waterhouse Family vs Singo. Forget the debates which will inevitably occur come the September federal election, it would be a promoter’s dream to see them clash verbally. What a stoush!

It has all the aspects of a Victorian melodrama, with tales of corruption, deception, anguish and greed. At its core is a saucy triangle, with the damsel (if you objectify Gai Waterhouse in such a manner) forced to choose between two warring men.

Maybe that’s taking it slightly too far, given two of the parties are mother and son. But it shapes up as a melodrama of the highest order, a story which even the most creative Hollywood scriptwriters would find too fanciful.

What has been overlooked by all – particularly by an owner who believes his horse is almost invincible – is that More Joyous simply wasn’t good enough on the day.

This is pivotal to Friday’s stewards enquiry, for the point of the hearing was to establish why More Joyous had run below market expectations.

It’s easy to gloat after the race, but I was convinced More Joyous could not win Saturday’s All Aged Stakes as early as Thursday.

Let me explain.

In my role as a bookmaker for Luxbet, I represent the racing staff in a weekly segment for Racenet called ‘Tips from the big bookies’ in which I give our best of the day, value of the day, lay of the day and best backed runner.

After hours of doing the form for Saturday’s races, I came to the conclusion More Joyous had to be the lay of the day. When we submitted our tips on Friday morning, she was the horse we were happy to risk.

“There’s no doubt she was unlucky last start, but this is a tougher race again and I’m not sure she deserves favouritism over the two three year olds. She doesn’t look the powerhouse she once was,” I wrote.

On Saturday morning, I took it a step further by leaving her out of my top four selections.

I chose to stick with the three year olds, putting Epaulette on top after his fine second to Black Caviar. He finished sixth, a length in front of More Joyous, so I was wide of the mark there.

My next three selections were All Too Hard, Rain Affair and Fiorente, who ran first, second and third.

For readers of my blog, the decision to leave More Joyous out of my numbers provoked outrage. In fact, that one exclusion resulted in more feedback through Twitter, Facebook and emails than any other post this year.

“You know More Joyous is running in Race 7 in Sydney, right? Just checking,” one punter wrote.

“You seemed to have missed More Joyous,” asserted another.

Over the hours, the comments became more cynical, a confidence now oozing from those who queried me.

“I cannot see how she possibly misses a place, she’d have to lose a leg,” said one Facebook comment.

“Remind me never to follow your tips at the races again if you can’t find a spot for More Joyous,” wrote a Twitter follower.

Then came the clincher…

“If Fiorente beats More Joyous home, I will give up the punt.”

Pressure indeed.

Post race, I had a number of phone calls from mates wondering if I’d received the Tom Waterhouse mail.

I even received one accusatory email from a mate who wanted to know why I didn’t let him in on the good mail I’d received.

The truth is, I knew nothing. I don’t know Tom Waterhouse and even if there was a whisper around, I wouldn’t listen to it. I’m confident enough to form my own opinions.

I knew More Joyous had worked well on Thursday morning but I didn’t know she had any problems after that gallop.

In fact, like most punters, I was only aware there was an issue when John Singleton brought it up in a pre-race interview on Saturday.

For me, there were a number of reasons I wasn’t convinced she would figure in the All Aged Stakes, points which have been ignored by journalists wanting to paint More Joyous as the victim of a vicious plot.

Firstly, I didn’t think she was at her best in the first place. And I don’t think she’s been at her best since she laboured home in the Toorak Handicap last October, in what was a gutbusting effort.

If she’d been at the peak we’d seen in past seasons, she would have given Pierro a race in the Canterbury Stakes. She still ran well first up, but the More Joyous of old would have fought on tenaciously. By her standards, it was just a run.

Even last start, there were signs she wasn’t the same More Joyous that had toyed with fields like this in the past.

She was unlucky and with even luck she would have won. But I’m not sure she would have put a space on them like she would have a season or two ago, given the acceleration she showed once she got clear running.

The circumstances of that race were another reason to be wary.

I never like backing horses the start after they’ve been involved in buffeting like that. Not only does it fail to give a true sense for how a horse is going, but it can affect a horse’s mental state.

Confidence is a major element in racing, and an incident like that which faced More Joyous in the Queen of the Turf can affect a horse’s confidence severely.

A mare like More Joyous is different to the rest. She’s tenacious, she’s been to war many times before. It’s unlikely the interference would have affected her too badly. But it’s always possible.

Many times, I’ve thrown one in the blackbook only to see it struggle next start. I wasn’t about to do the same with More Joyous at such a short quote.

Value is everything in my eyes when assessing a race. In itself, a pressing reason to take her on was simply the fact she represented no value, something which played out one the market late.

Dominic Beirne, Australia’s most respected form analyst, highlighted this point. He said she was a genuine $4 chance, when many were happy to back her at a $2.50 quote.

She eventually got out to $3.80 in the Sydney ring, although the call was shorter.

That was closer to her right price.

Rain Affair, who was always going to be suited with the lack of genuine speedsters besides him, looked value. Fiorente, who had never raced beyond 2000m but had flown at trackwork with blinkers applied, looked value.

More Joyous did not. As a result, she was easy to oppose.

Another factor which played heavily on my mind was her unusual trait of failing to win the races for which she is set. In fact, the only time she’s won her ‘grand final’ was in last year’s Doncaster Mile.

Granted, nearly every other time, there have been genuine excuses. She struck a heavy track, which she doesn’t handle, in the Golden Slipper and at her first Doncaster Mile attempt.

She probably hasn’t coped with a tough 2040m or Moonee Valley at her two Cox Plate attempts. Injury brought an end to both her three year old campaigns before she could reach her grand finals.

Nevertheless, when taken together, it doesn’t make for pretty reading.

The All Aged Stakes was her grand final this preparation. Brisbane was an option but was considered unlikely, while retirement was mooted as a possibility.

With all the other factors taken into account, it became clear she had plenty against her as she lined up in the All Aged Stakes.

I became more confident after seeing her parade. Her coat didn’t have the shine it tends to have when she’s at her peak. She looked rather plain, quite lacklustre, never a good sign.

Around the turn, though, I’d given up hope – I thought she was going to win comfortably. But suddenly, she punctured, and All Too Hard swooped to take his first Sydney Group 1.

Perhaps the setback – which I’m sure will attract attention at Friday’s enquiry – did affect her, but even without the setback, I still believe she would have struggled to win on Saturday.

It’s something to ponder ahead of the most anticipated stewards enquiry in recent memory.

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-05T09:51:34+00:00

jules

Guest


Well done for opposing More Joyous prior to the race, but the real More Joyous did not turn up. If she had, it would have made an interesting race with All Too Hard just nailing Rain Affair on the day. A fit More Joyous is clearly superior to Rain Affair, as she proved first up this camapaign when she lost narrowly to Pierro. There was something wrong with the horse, and she probably should not have run. The whispers and accusations being thrown around are of little impotance to me, as they will all lie to cover their backsides, and we will probably never know the real truth behind what transpired. My main concern is for the champion mare, who is now very ill, and struggling to recover from whatever was wrong with her prior to the race (of which Gai Waterhouse failed to report). She should be remembered for the great things she did on the track, not this disgraceful incident. I hope she recovers and we see her on the racetrack again, she deserves a decent send off, and deserves to remembered for how good she was, not how poorly treated she was in her finals days at Tulloch Lodge.

2013-05-02T09:58:14+00:00

Boris

Guest


Pierro > More Joyous, and All Too Hard >= Pierro. She was a huge lay when she went under 3.0 on Betfair... Some people genuinely pot horses on ratings, history etc rather than inside knowledge. The day a court believes Chinese whispers starting from a former NRL player is the day the legal system collapses.

2013-04-30T12:34:00+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Mad Singos mate is happy to say what he was told. Ch7 Wed News.

2013-04-30T12:31:19+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Andrew You will see on Channel 7 who his source was and who told him. It is real and Singo is 100% correct. Sadly, an innocent party, Andrew Johns is the original link and he works for channel 9 who just happens to grab $10m from Tommy in advertising and who also just happened to invite one of the Senior Execs to his wedding. I feel sorry for Joey. I will bet you 1,000/1 that Joey cannot produce any tangible evidence that he backed MJ. I am on no ones side here, but I would have done what Singo did had it happened to me.

2013-04-30T06:31:11+00:00

MadMonk

Guest


I preface my comment by saying I know nothing about racing. The most interesting part about this was that Singo raised his concern before the race. The possible scenarios appear to be: 1 Singo made it up. 2 Singo's mate made it up. 3 TW said it but was making it up. 4 GW told TW who told Singo's mate who told Singo. If Singo does not want to give up his mate, it goes away. But why does Singo lose his right to own horses. Are the stewards some form of informal defamation adjudicators? Singo has a blue with GW and pulls his horses, that would appear to be his right.

2013-04-29T18:59:27+00:00

nan

Guest


oh for the owners of BC 26 is also a good number

2013-04-29T18:58:55+00:00

nan

Guest


I agree i also couldnt find more joyous a place and singo is just looking for someone to beat up on- his outburst in public is a disgrace 0 i would hate to see how he treats his staff. One thing from the all aged stakes i know is that black caviar would have blown em away. I cant believe that rain affair nearly won that race after what Bc did to him last start.

2013-04-29T18:37:14+00:00

ausi

Guest


Yes - ARR 140 a - the "heat" in the neck and the injection should have been reported to the stewards.

AUTHOR

2013-04-29T13:51:37+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


For sure. And hopefully this whole sorry mess can clarify the boundaries once and for all.

AUTHOR

2013-04-29T13:49:06+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Not doubting it was well below her best Scott. What I'm saying is I don't think she's been at her best since the Toorak Handicap, and she was way too short given her performances since. I don't rate her in the same league as Sunline - not far below, but I consider Sunline the superior mare. It becomes very simple - Singo produces someone to corroborate what Tom said, then it becomes one of the biggest controversies racing has seen. If he can't produce a source, then it fades out, Singo looks a goose and faces charges of bringing racing into disrepute.

2013-04-29T13:18:56+00:00

ScottWoodward.me

Roar Guru


Andrew Well done if you didnt like MJ on sat., but she is our modern day Sunline and her run was well below anywhere near her best. I dont know Singo but I do know the guys that provided the "mail" to him and you would be naive if you think he would make unfounded statements like he did that he cannot support.

2013-04-29T08:58:30+00:00

MyGeneration

Roar Guru


God bless the little plate! :-)

2013-04-29T08:56:48+00:00

MyGeneration

Roar Guru


One small caveat on that. Nash eased up her on when she couldn't win, which exaggerated the margin a little.

2013-04-29T04:04:35+00:00

delbeato

Roar Guru


I have no idea about racing, but it's very clear from this episode that there is, at a minimum, scope for conflict of interest.

AUTHOR

2013-04-29T03:55:16+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Good win by Platelet Red Menace!! Hopefully this instance leads to a toughening of the rules regarding administered substances. Look at what happened with Gaius Caesar before the Miracle Mile yesterday - although I don't think it was wrong to apply antibiotics so far out from the race, it still should be in the public sphere. Given she was passed fit to run, I see no problem with her taking her place in the field. But you are right Justin, the public should have been made aware of the situation.

AUTHOR

2013-04-29T03:50:05+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


It does look as though it will fade out at the moment, with no resolution. I'm hoping to be in the enquiry (now next Monday, pushed back from Friday) to cover it for The Roar. Hopefully we get answers, but I'd say it's likely to result in more questions. It could open a Pandora's Box...

2013-04-29T03:49:49+00:00

Justin Cinque

Expert


When the horse was treated with antibiotics, Gai had a duty of care, if not an obligation, to inform the stewards. I dare say it will be a major focus of the inquiry especially because the horse ran like she wasn't 100% well. There's no doubt in my mind, with the benefit of hindsight, MJ should not have been allowed to run. At the very least, the public needed to know the situation.

AUTHOR

2013-04-29T03:46:32+00:00

Andrew Hawkins

Expert


Justin's right - that's meant to be below 2000m! Silly me. She does look gone, and I think the Toorak Handicap has a lot to blame for that. 60kg, gassed early. Quite a shame really!

2013-04-29T03:29:09+00:00

Red Menace

Guest


If there was a problem with More Joyous in the days leading up to the race, does the trainer have to advise stewards of the problem with the horse? If so, did Gai advise the stewards? I am really not sure if she has to but just interested to know. I didn't bet on the race in question but I did back Platelet in Adelaide :) -- Comment from The Roar's iPhone app.

2013-04-29T03:16:13+00:00

sheek

Roar Guru


Interesting to speculate how this will play out. I'm not a fan of any of them, although I respect their success as clever, hard working people. While it makes great copy for the news outlets, I suspect it is like one of those potential offshore cyclones, most of which blow themselves out before they hit shore (fortunately). There's a lot of "he said" & "no, I didn't" about all this. It's one person's word against another's. Unless someone taped an actual conversation, you can't charge anyone on chinese whispers. One good thing that might flow from this is we might not have Tom's head bobbing up every few minutes on TV during almost any sporting telecast you wish to name, to give us the latest odds.

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