The final word on marking contests in the AFL

By Cameron Rose / Expert

Debate over the rules and interpretations in regards to what is and isn’t allowed in marking contests has been raging for over two weeks now, and there is no end in sight.

The problem is there are several issues at hand, and with everyone arguing their own version or amalgam of the issues, everyone is right and ‘everyone else’ is wrong.

We’re left with a cacophony of outrage as passionate pleas are aired. It’s time to break down the debate into distinct categories.

The first issue is the rule itself in relation to marking contests, which we’re constantly being told hasn’t changed in years. In essence the rule says players aren’t allowed to push, bump, block, hold or interfere with the arms of an opponent.

The rule itself, as well as the explanatory video on the AFL website, doesn’t appear to make any allowance for incidental contact.

This is of course a problem when you have 36 fast, strong athletes in a confined area, putting themselves in harm’s way to win at all costs for their team, and thrilling fans of the game while doing so.

They attack the game under the general principles of fair play, and yes, every now and then a stray hand is going to pop over a shoulder, or a tackle is going to slip a little high when an opponent ducks into it. Too often, free kicks are paid for incidental contact, which rips the soul out of our game.

Getting back to the rule wording, it’s hard to think of a marking contest that doesn’t involve one of the aforementioned unlawful acts.

Greg Baum wrote a piece in The Age last week where he yearned for the duels of Van der Haar and Knights.

In the article, he painted a mythical picture of two men jumping at the ball from opposite directions, not a hint of body contact between them except when they paused in mid-air to shake hands at all the fairness.

It invoked visions of all players, officials and fans smiled and nodded in appreciation at such an equal, non-contact contest.

Of course, one of the cries from the people most upset by rules and interpretations is wanting a return to ‘the good old days’, so in a roundabout way, Baum and those he is arguing against are after the same thing.

But we can have the best of both worlds. No one is suggesting removing the high-flying skilful mark, and we see plenty of these week after week.

It can co-exist with battles of power when two players standing under the ball are grappling for best position. Jeremy Howe and Travis Cloke are both fine players and should be encouraged to play to their respective strengths.

In all cases, forwards, defenders, ruckmen and midfielders are in the same boat. Remember, a hallmark of AFL football is it is played by all shapes and sizes.

Let’s not penalize a player for being too strong, and being able to put his opponent off-balance with various parts of his body when the ball is in close proximity.

The second issue at hand is the interpretation of the rule.

Despite assurances from the parody of an umpires’ boss Jeff Geischen that there is no specific focus on particular rules from week to week or year to year, it’s been well documented that up to Round 6, over 100 more free kicks were paid in marking contests than at the same stage of 2012.

The free kick against Scott Thompson for the push on David Hale was pilloried by all and sundry, and was later admitted as a mistake by the umpires department.

Those against where the rules are taking us used the incident as an example of how soft the game has gotten. Those in favour were equally adamant that it was an umpiring error, and as such should be ignored as an example.

Both points of view can be respected, but they also missed the point.

The question ignored by too many was why was the umpire, Ray Chamberlain, a man with many years of experience, in a state of mind to deem the free kick was warranted? Surely this is the key to everything.

What it tells us, quite simply, is that we’ve gone too far in trying to make a fluid, grey game into a fixed, black and white series of acts. It’s time to scale back.

Players, umpires, coaches, commentators, fans. The interpretation of the rule, despite the denial of key advocates, has obviously become cloudy at every level.

And now we get to the third layer of the debate, which is Kevin Bartlett and his Kool-Aid drinking cohorts, media friends like Patrick Smith and Greg Denham.

KB has strong, forthright opinions, which is not unusual for a talkback radio host.

He is also dense when it comes to opposing arguments to any position he holds, to the point of breathtaking arrogance. Again, he’s not Robinson Crusoe among radio hosts. It’s part of the job description for a shock-jock, which he is on the way to becoming.

Unfortunately, it’s the last thing you want in a person that is the leading voice and most visible member of the AFL rules committee.

The picture painted is of a cantankerous old fool with an inability to listen, not just riding roughshod over the wishes of fans, but taking pleasure in doing it.

The Australian’s Patrick Smith normally can’t exhale without calling for the sacking of 15 people for incompetence on any given issue, and has taken the dimmest possible view of what he believes is Essendon’s arrogance under the Hird/Thompson regime.

It defies belief then, that he can be so obtuse on what is clearly an emotive issue among the football public. ‘Everyone is stupid’ is his basic argument against anyone that dares voice a differing opinion to KB and himself on any rules criticism.

Greg Denham, another KB flunky, wrote an article on the issue last Wednesday in The Australian that was an embarrassment to him and his paper.

So much for ‘fiercely independent’ journalism I suppose. What KB says, his mates write. We don’t want to jeopardise those regular, ego-stroking SEN spots do we fellas? The footy boys club is alive and well.

Almost every football watcher can tell the difference between fair and unfair in a marking contest, when watching through unbiased eyes at least. Why can’t we let the umpires do the same?

That’s the throwback to the ‘old days’ I want. Not the biff and bash, players in set positions, or the long kick down the line to traditional key targets.

The game has moved on to be a full ground experience, with players going as hard as they ever have, in what is a quick skilful game; the best in the world.

Strip back the verbose rule wordings, stopping bringing new ones in, and let the umpires use their experience, feel, and judgement, and only pay what they 100 percent see, clear infringements that directly affect play.

Good luck getting that message through I suppose.

The Crowd Says:

2013-05-13T22:38:56+00:00

kevin

Guest


All this on marking forwards, is jeff garlett a forward. Well in the saint kilda game dying minutes was that not in the back. They pay silly free kicks that are barely there, but the more obvious ones, well say no more. umpiring is a joke, No wonder fans are going nuts at the footy. All I can say is pay the frees that are there and let the stupid ones that are not there go.. On the sliding rule poor Robbie who is 6 foot 400+ he went after a smothered ball, eyes on the ball some retarded saints player who arrived and had his legs taken out, lighten up whats the aim of the game," THE BALL" the umpiring panel need to pull there head in and get back to basics, get the spastics out of the panel....

AUTHOR

2013-05-13T22:14:24+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


KB has every right to comment on rule changes Floyd. What he shouldn't have the right to do is not afford a respectful hearing to anyone who disagrees with him.

2013-05-13T13:55:55+00:00

Floyd Calhoun

Guest


A rule in place for decades. He simply used it best because he got the ball in the first place!

2013-05-13T13:39:46+00:00

Jimbo

Guest


Yep as soon as he felt some pressure from behind, old hungry threw the ball out in front of him pretending to bounce, so any tackler would be called for holding the man without the ball, the rule was really changed to close up the loophole he exploited.

2013-05-13T13:13:47+00:00

pope paul v11

Guest


The one and the same Floyd. Good old KB was known as the less than complimentary "Hungry", as in goal hungry, back then.

2013-05-13T12:56:51+00:00

Floyd Calhoun

Guest


KB has some right to comment on rule changes. If its the same KB I remember from yesteryear, wasnt he the player who mastered the holding the man decision whilst he bounced the ball? The rules were changed to counter this 'loophole'. How many players can claim a rule change to counter their dominance? Especially a balding little fella who struggled to put together 400 games!

2013-05-13T12:43:31+00:00

Jimbo

Guest


Good lord, i am not going to dispute that rugby has its share of different shapes and sizes, but Australian football does as well, from 7 ' Sandilands to 5'2' Milne, to built like tarzan, and apparently plays llike him as well Majak Daw. And of course like rugby at lower levels the shapes and sizes and fitness are even more varied.

2013-05-13T12:28:35+00:00

Myles Stedman

Roar Guru


Great read Cameron. However, with the sport able to be played by all shapes and sizes, you were looking for "rugby", not Aussie rules.

2013-05-13T08:33:32+00:00

Kev

Guest


KB's problem is that he stubbornly believes that the rules and the interpretations of those rules, are perfectly fine and everyone whining doesn't know what they are talking about.

2013-05-13T07:26:39+00:00

Tim Holt

Roar Guru


With how the rules have been debauched by the powers that be marking contests in a traditional sense are a thing of the past

2013-05-13T06:12:46+00:00

SN

Guest


Love the stats, whether there's anything in them or not! Possibly better, more experienced umpires being given the bigger matches?? Although that flies in the face of my first argument about The Giesch encouraging less & less "judgement & feel" umpiring...who knows?! Almost more free kicks paid at the Melb Vs GC match than there was spectators watching it...ouch!

AUTHOR

2013-05-13T05:41:27+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


I agree Richard, although you'll never here anyone from the AFL or umps department admit it. The public outcry was stronger than usual, and that's how it has to be.

2013-05-13T04:50:09+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


I agree with Richard they umps did seem to not be so technical about marking contests on the weekend. To be fair to KB, I'm not sure he was ever in a marking contest.

AUTHOR

2013-05-13T04:43:49+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


That's the problem though, isn't it Rob. Fans love their team more than they hate the direction of the rules committee, and you don't want to not support your team. The AFL point to crowds and ratings. People love their clubs, and we love the game. It grows in spite of their rule changes, not because of them!

AUTHOR

2013-05-13T04:42:26+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Interesting to note that every poster has also had a negative vibe about KB. Not that he'd listen to any criticism of course, or take on board something that might be constructive.

AUTHOR

2013-05-13T04:41:22+00:00

Cameron Rose

Expert


Some excellent points there SN. In tight finals and Grand Finals though, the umps rule book pretty much goes out the window and they almost to make their decisions based on feel. They make an allowance for the higher intensity contest, and we often congratulate them for it. Interestingly, there were only 31 free kicks last grand final. On the weekend, the three “biggest” games (ie – quality of teams, match intensity) were Ess v Geel (31 frees), Haw v Syd (32) and Frem v Coll (35). Why would matches like Melb v GC (48) and NM v WB (47) have free kick counts so much higher? I’m not sure if there’s anything to that or not.

2013-05-13T03:44:01+00:00

SN

Guest


Cam the issue with asking umpires to use their experience, feel and judgement is that they have been given hard & fast instructions for so long now that they have totally lost that feel. I'm not just talking about the marking rules, but also holding the ball, 50m penalties for a soft touch after a mark etc...the score review system does nothing to encourage their "judgement & feel" either - not that I'm totally opposed to it, just think it needs tweaking. Umpires now have no feel for the game because there is no longer that grey area, according to The Geisch there is only Black & White. With the marking contest, as you say, it's all about fairness..i.e. Reid Vs Bellchambers - both players engaged and had equal opportunity to outmuscle his opponent, all that it came down to was Reid was stronger. Blatant shoves in the back (as opposed to holding your ground) to someone who's got front position whether with the hands, forearms, hips or toenail should be penalised. Surely KB needs to be given the flick from any position of influence or power he has...god knows, it's the best move Richmond ever made and the icing on that cake was that he cracked the sads and never came back...if only SEN and the AFL could be so lucky!

2013-05-13T03:36:52+00:00

mickywoolyams

Guest


Totally agree @Rob. KB is using his radio job to justify his AFL job and vice versa. To me its pretty simple. The fans own the game, and perception is everything. If the fans think there is a problem (in this case the coaches and players too), then there is a problem. The AFL should fix the problem. All it would take in this case is to revert to the same interpretation of 5 years ago, and sack the rules committee.

2013-05-13T03:29:06+00:00

Richard

Guest


I agree with your comments with regards to kb and Patrick smith. The skill that they miss is to realise that they are not necessarily right every time, and others have interesting substantial opinions as well. However the sheer arrogance and egos of the two is mind blowing.

2013-05-13T03:24:27+00:00

Richard

Guest


What I found interesting was that many commentators during games on the weekend commented that the umpires appeared to relax in their rulings. Maybe the AFL have listened.

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