AFL in France: by Frenchmen, for Frenchmen

By The_Wookie / Roar Guru

In this fifth installment of the series on international footy, we sit down with Thomas Urban and Alban Shieber, the President and Communications Director for the Comite Nationale de Football Australien (CNFA).

Australian football came to France during the first World War, being played by Australian soldiers near Villers Bretonneux, but it wasn’t until 2005 that the first club was formed in Strasburg (Paris being primarily an expatriate Australian club).

Today there are nine clubs in France, with seven clubs in the main competition, the CNFA.

There are also three women’s sides.

Last season there were two divisions, including development sides, but for this season all sides were merged into the one main competition.

There are approximately 200 Australian football players in France with about 5% – Alban says 10-12 players at most – being expatriate Australians, and most of those are based with the Paris club.

Recently, a club made up entirely French players won the league, after years of being dominated by Paris. Alban believes this is a great sign for the health of the game in France.

The league consists of six rounds, semi-finals and a final. With three rounds played in the autumn, and three rounds and finals played in the spring (Alban says no one wants to play in the cold and snow during the winter).

In addition, clubs play friendlies against each others.

Games are played primarily on rugby and football grounds – cricket ovals are practically non-existent in France. The league plays nine-a-side football, with the same rules that apply to the 18-a-side game.

Periodically, Test matches are played against other countries, and some French teams close to the border play friendlies against German sides.

Thomas Urban is the President of the league, national coach, umpire – and a West Coast supporter – and has been involved in the game for about five years.

He says he got involved due to his fascination with Australian culture, and passion for sport. This led him to be one of the founders of the Toulouse club and he’s been involved ever since.

Alban Shieber is the Communications manager for the league – and follows the Adelaide Crows – and his story is fascinating.

He was an exchange student in Mt Gambier, South Australia, in 2006 who wanted to play rugby union, but learnt no one played rugby union in Mt Gambier.

Fellow students took him along to training and, despite speaking no english and having a penchant for tackling below the knees, he soon found himself playing on debut for West Gambier against his club North Gambier due to a numbers shortage.

He says he gave away a number of free kicks for low tackling to his training mates. He was soon playing regular for footy for Norths.

Upon his return to France, Shieber returned to playing rugby as he couldn’t find any Australians to play with until almost three years later, when a team was founded at Bordeaux.

He’s been involved ever since, including a year with the Finland AFL.

The CFNA speaks highly of AFL Europe as a governing body, primarily for its promotion. The league also benefits from French government assistance by being a member of a sports federation, which gives them access to some funding and grants.

A major fillip for the CFNA occurred in 2013, when Bordeaux hosted the Axios EU Cup, featuring 12 different national men’s teams, and two women’s.

They received local government support including free ground use. 26 games were played, featuring two halves of 15 minutes, with the grand final featuring two halves of 20 minutes.

The grand final was attended by 2000 people. Schieber says that 1,500 of these were not involved in Australian football in any way.

The French did well, playing in the grand final for the first time against England. Thomas is pleased with the result, given they beat the European champions, Ireland, by a point during the preliminary rounds, and defeated Italy in the semi final.

The International Cup has been a mixed bag for the French side. They have won three and lost three at the Cup, and in their first match they faced the previous winner in Papua New Guinea, as well as Tonga.

Their second experience at the Cup was better, having been allocated to a division more within their abilities, where they made their division final, losing to Fiji.

Like many international sides, the French face the same difficulties in financing their trip to Melbourne in August.

Although they plan on attending, the 3000 euro per player cost is difficult to raise when many of the French players are students.

If you want to be involved in Australian Football in France, you can find all the relative information in english on the AFL Europe site.

If you speak French you can find further information here

The Crowd Says:

2013-11-02T20:39:24+00:00

Avon River

Guest


#Justin Who funds it? Not the AFL and that's a bit of a shame for you. Gives you nothing to whine about.

2013-11-02T12:45:02+00:00

Ronny

Roar Rookie


Really poor attempt, perhaps there is a kids "Roar " somewhere for you to stink up.

2013-11-02T11:56:02+00:00

Justin Thighm

Roar Guru


Wookie, do you work in the AFL media department. France and the foreign legion of Melbourne Rules. Who funds all these foreign out posts of Melbourne Rules?

2013-11-01T07:02:43+00:00

TW

Guest


This article originally from a NZ paper is very bullish about the number of Saints supporters tipped to travel in 2014 to Wellington. Apparently the AFL`s official airline - Will be at capacity so other airlines are getting interested. However realistically all the figures will settle down over time. http://aflnz.co.nz/big-windfall-predicted-from-wellington-afl-match/

AUTHOR

2013-10-31T09:55:29+00:00

The_Wookie

Roar Guru


Alban Schieber played Union in France but jumped at the chance to play Australian Footy when a team started up near him

2013-10-31T09:41:00+00:00

TW

Guest


I have noted elsewhere on the net some comments by a player new to the game in France - They went along the lines of our friendly and supporting the Aussie Rules team culture was compared to their Rugby/Other Sports counterparts. That is not the first time those comments have appeared from sports people just getting involved overseas. Early days in NZ and small numbers but at least the right structures and pathways are now in place, and they are getting more New Zealanders involved in the organising of the grass roots.

AUTHOR

2013-10-31T05:09:22+00:00

The_Wookie

Roar Guru


it was the NZ announcement that triggered this series of articles.

2013-10-31T04:14:20+00:00

TW

Guest


You have to admire these guys in France and elsewhere - Despite all the obstacles placed in front of them they all continue to expand a game unknown to most of the populations. I noted AFL Europe wants to double the numbers in the 21 countries to a total of 10,000 by 2016. Its correct to have targets - Lets hope they get there. Off topic but related to International Footy- The 2014 AFL Fixtures show that the Brisbane Lions will play St Kilda the home side in Wellington on Anzac Day. Recently the AFL extended this deal to a 5 year period for Anzac Day.

2013-10-31T03:40:52+00:00

Franko

Guest


Wow 12 teams and 200 players A ways to go to catch up to the 1,200 registered pétanque players in 47 individual clubs in Australia. ;)

AUTHOR

2013-10-31T00:07:18+00:00

The_Wookie

Roar Guru


Theres certainly large elements of doubt over the continuity of Australian footy with the uni club.

2013-10-31T00:00:43+00:00

Storm Boy

Guest


A good series. The game was played in France in WW1 but not again until 2005. So we can't quite claim a centenary is just a few years away! I wonder Wook what you think of the Sydney University club claiming that it is celebrating 125 years? On the club's page http://www.suanfc.com/suanfc/recent-history/the-birth-of-the-bouncers it shows the club was founded in 1887 but went defunct in 1889, not seen again until 1948. By my math there isn't 125 years of footy to celebrate from 1948 to today. I declare an interest for North Shore FC formed 1903.

2013-10-30T23:53:31+00:00

Avon River

Guest


Correction : Pall Thomas Finnsson. Curse my fat fingers. Btw I gather he was with Denmark at the 2002 IC, meanwhile the Danes were lste withdrawals three years later.

2013-10-30T23:40:38+00:00

Avon River

Guest


The Les Coqs were amongst a number of highlights when they debuted at the 2011 International Cup. They had some quite handy players including a couple who clearly benefitted from having spent some time in Aust playing footy. I certainly noticed Gregoire Patacq who at the time was listed as Toulouse Hawks and Robinvale Eagles. Toulouse teammates Urban was at the time playing at Coolangatta and Patacq had a comrade at Robinvale in Jan-Mahamad Cyril. They were a very happy and passionate group coached by Cyril Talon. An interesting squad member being Psll Thomas Finnsson. His story I believe is as follows: Originally from Iceland. Played for Denmark and captained them in 2008 Int Cup. Moved to Paris with work Played for Iceland in 2010 Euros Played with France in 2011 Int Cup. WFN has a nice story currently about one Charles Bernigaud who after spending a year in Australis returned home and has no established a club in Lyon where prev the closest clubs were Paris, Marseille or Strasbourg. The geographical filling in the gaps is a key to more regular competition. Also another nice story about bonnie Prince Charles who is now the patron of AFL Europe for the next 2 yrs.

AUTHOR

2013-10-30T19:03:46+00:00

The_Wookie

Roar Guru


The interview with Thomas Urban and Alban Schieber can be heard here - http://youtu.be/iwJOZx2eNLw Next up should be AFL Fiji and AFL Canada

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