Lance, Emma and Hein... who to believe?

By John Thompson-Mills / Expert

“Man, I’m that busy talking to lawyers and going over things that have happened, I can’t remember what I have and haven’t said. You spend a day in a room with a team of lawyers. It’s like 24-hour root canal.”

That was Lance Armstrong in his ‘explosive’ interview with his former masseuse Emma O’Reilly and journalist Matt Lawton from UK Paper, The Daily Mail.

It’s a comment that says everything about Lance Armstrong and this cycling soap opera that seems to have no end.

The interview came about after O’Reilly who worked for Lance on the US Postal Team from 1999 to 2000, finally accepted the disgraced Texan’s long-standing invitation to talk.

Armstrong tried to contact her way back in January, just before his partial doping confession to Oprah Winfrey.

“It was too big a situation to just have a chat about it on the phone,’ O’Reilly told Matt Lawton.

“I wanted to eyeball him. You can’t keep kicking an injured dog. I wasn’t here to humiliate him. But I wanted closure.”

Rather strangely, O’Reilly chose a noisy bar for the meeting, which somewhat detracted from the gravitas of the situation.

Why not a conference room in a hotel?

The big revelation from the interview was that former UCI President Hein Verbruggen allegedly helped concoct the backdated prescription for saddle sores that covered up a positive test for cortisone.

Verbruggen, of course, has flatly denied any involvement, but Armstrong has clearly decided it’s time to reveal a little more about who else helped him avoid testing positive throughout his career.

We all know that Armstrong didn’t act alone, and I can even see why the UCI didn’t want him to fail after his return from cancer.

The UCI was trying to globalise cycling and American money was key to that happening, so there was no way Lance would be allowed to fail a drugs test.

But after all we’ve been through with Lance, how much can we believe?

As he told Matt Lawton, he owes nothing to the UCI now.

“To think I am protecting any of these guys after the way they treated me, that is ludicrous. I’m not protecting them at all. I have no loyalty towards them.

“I’m not going to lie to protect these guys. I hate them. They threw me under the bus. I’m done with them.”

But at the same time, Armstrong says he can’t really remember the details of the failed test back at the 1999 Tour de France.

“What I remember was there being a problem. I’m not sure if it was a positive but there were traces found. I don’t know if it technically crossed the line.

“But anyway, it didn’t matter. I can’t remember exactly who was in the room. But Emma has a better memory than I do.”

You said it, Lance.

Yet he says he can remember exactly what Hein Verbruggen allegedly had to say when the positive result surfaced.

“This is a real problem for me, this is the knockout punch for our sport, the year after Festina, so we’ve got to come up with something.”

Funny things, memories.

Especially when you revisit that opening quote from my story.

“Man, I’m that busy talking to lawyers and going over things that have happened, I can’t remember what I have and haven’t said. You spend a day in a room with a team of lawyers. It’s like 24-hour root canal.”

That was Armstrong’s response to Matt Lawton after his comments regarding Verbruggen’s alleged complicity in the 1999 cortisone cover-up.

Seriously, could you just drop a bombshell like that without really thinking about what you’re about to say?!

Especially someone like Armstrong, who has been so controlling throughout his career.

Or was it a deliberate plant to try and garner some sympathy ahead of a possible appearance before a formal UCI investigation?

Of course, he could have easily mentioned all this to Oprah in January.

I’m glad for Emma O’Reilly that she finally has the closure that underpinned her journey to Florida, even though she says Armstrong never actually said sorry.

“I was thinking, he never actually used the word sorry. But I wasn’t looking for an insincere apology. There are different ways of saying sorry and I felt what he did say was genuine,” she told Matt Lawson.

But I’m mystified as to what this meeting with O’Reilly does for Lance’s case?

He may not initially have known Lawton was going to be there, but once confronted with the fact the meeting would be recorded, he decided to drop Verbruggen’s name and some tasty quotes

And then proceeded to cloud it with hazy recollections of the same issue.

As a cycling fan, I couldn’t wait to read about the meeting, but after all that we’ve been through with Lance, I don’t know what to think about the latest chapter.

Regardless of the rumoured truth and reconciliation commission that may finally drag Armstrong before a cycling judiciary, it may now be just too late for anyone to believe him no matter what he says.

There may be some truth, but there may be some embellishment as well.

That doesn’t mean though that other people shouldn’t take the opportunity to clear their conscience.

Brian Cookson, I wish you well in sorting out this mess.

The Crowd Says:

2013-11-21T12:24:13+00:00

Seb Vettel

Guest


Bit harsh - he is just the major scape goat for all the cyclist. Let's face it, almost all cyclist are or have used drugs. Especially when it come sot the Tour. Even at Jnr level in Australia. Cycling is the most doped up sport around. They might as well strip all medals from all athletes - the reality is they will never know who has and who hasn't cheated in cycling.

2013-11-21T06:11:41+00:00

Rabbitz

Roar Guru


Does anyone still give a rat's bum what that loser says?

2013-11-21T06:05:21+00:00

Simoc

Guest


Lance Armstrong lies about anything and everything. He is a slimeball. He has zero credibility or believeability. He deserves a long jail sentence for being a fraud to mankind.

2013-11-21T03:55:11+00:00

Robz

Guest


“To think I am protecting any of these guys after the way they treated me, that is ludicrous. I’m not protecting them at all. I have no loyalty towards them. “I’m not going to lie to protect these guys. I hate them. They threw me under the bus. I’m done with them.” That pretty much says it all - he's still trying to claim the victim status in a situation that was created by him and others then tired to help him hide it after the deed was done. I am done with Lance Armstrong and will never again read an article involving him. Time to move on and have him fade into oblivion as a nasty stain on the international sporting landscape.

2013-11-21T01:03:38+00:00

Grahame

Guest


Sure I could have opened Google to search for and decipher "UCI". But the point I am making is, for a reader-friendly article, I would expect the writer would spell out abbreviations in full at least once. Like Union Cycliste International (UCI). It would help novices like me.

2013-11-20T08:54:08+00:00

Rob Grêmio

Guest


Union Cycliste International (but then, Google is a great help in times like these)

2013-11-20T05:46:07+00:00

sittingbison

Guest


Its part of his stage managed public rehabilitation - the public loves stories of the fallen star coming good in the end. If his spinmeister team of scumbags handle it "correctly" he could almost be Roy from The Natural

2013-11-20T01:34:47+00:00

Ben of Phnom Penh

Roar Guru


Agreed. He'll keep on offering bits and pieces to stay in the lime-light and play the victim card. It is rather tedious and continues to cast a pall over the sport.

2013-11-20T00:47:21+00:00

Tim Renowden

Expert


Lance believes his own bullshit. That's fine, as long as the rest of us cast a critical eye over whatever he says, because he doesn't say much out of altruism. This latest statement corroborates what others have said about a conspiracy at the top of the UCI, but we do have to question his motives for revealing this now. Revenge? He's realised Hein and Pat's power at the UCI has evaporated? Trying to demonstrate he's turned over a new leaf? Wake me up when he testifies under oath and is cross-examined.

2013-11-20T00:43:49+00:00

Grahame

Guest


May be a good idea to tell your novice cycling readers what UCI is.

2013-11-20T00:29:27+00:00

dirk westerduin

Guest


This article makes sense. Let's see what Armstrong has to say to Cookson. He certainly was a liar and an asshole. It was still a level playing field, though. Read on the Velonews website what the former Mapei boss has to say.

2013-11-19T21:59:09+00:00

Bones506

Roar Guru


Long ben suspected tat the UCI was involved and whilst Lance has proven to be a liar I don't doubt his accusations about Hein. That god Cookson is now in charge. Imagien what McQuaid would be saying

2013-11-19T18:46:28+00:00

Matthew Skellett

Roar Rookie


There 's a wise old saying -"..if you live a life of truth you wont have to remember what you said "....Mr Armstrong certainly was NOT living a life of truth by any stretch

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