What could happen in 2015: The stats man's guide to the NRL

By Tim Gore / Expert

‘Stats don’t play the game for ya’ is one frequent criticism I’ve heard during my 16 seasons of noting errors, penalties and missed tackles during rugby league games.

With all due respect to those sprouting that view, it is total bollocks that only a total luddite would espouse.

Statistics are in fact a rather good guide to understanding how teams perform, and judging where their strengths and weaknesses lie. They might not directly play the game for you, but they can inform you how your opponent plays it and how you might play them.

I’d be stunned if there was an NRL coach who doesn’t pay very close attention to statistics.

Another group of people that I absolutely guarantee pay close attention to statistics are bookmakers. The setting of their odds would have more than a little to do with statistical analysis. So I decided to examine the odds for this season to see how they stack up against the statistics.

2015 Premier

This is how Ladbrokes have framed the market:

South Sydney Rabbitohs – 5.50 New Zealand Warriors – 15.00
Sydney Roosters – 6.50 Newcastle Knights      – 19.00
Canterbury Bulldogs – 7.50 Cronulla Sharks – 21.00
Penrith Panthers – 8.00 Wests Tigers    – 21.00
Brisbane Broncos – 9.00 Gold Coast Titans – 34.00
North Queensland Cowboys – 10.00 Parramatta Eels – 34.00
Manly Sea Eagles – 12.00 St George Illawarra Dragons – 34.00
Melbourne Storm – 13.00 Canberra Raiders – 61.00

It seems that they’ve mapped last season’s top four as the favourites for the title. That’s a bit odd as since 1980 we have only had back-to-back premiers on four occasions. The last of these was the Broncos in 1992-93 (I’m not including the 1997 debacle for the purpose of this study).

So only 11.8 per cent of the time have we had a repeat premier and yet the Bunnies are the favourites? On only six out of 34 occasions (17.6 per cent) have last season’s runners up claimed the silverware.

The stats are exactly the same for sides who won the title having not even made the finals the previous year. However, the title has been won by sides who finished the previous season in the final four over 70 per cent of the time.

One big stat: on only seven occasions (20.5 per cent) since the 1980 season has a side without recent grand final experience won a decider. On two of these occasions both competing sides had no grand final experience.

Of course in 2014 Souths, a side that hadn’t played in a decider since 1971, beat a side in Canterbury, who had played in the 2012 grand final. However, it is still the case that nearly 80 per cent of the premierships have been won by a side who has played in a grand final within the last five seasons. That would indicate that one of Melbourne, St George, Roosters, Warriors, Manly, Souths or the Bulldogs are likely to win in 2015.

The Wooden Spoon

This is how Ladbrokes sees the wooden spoon market:

Canberra Raiders        – 1.18 Parramatta Eels – 1.3
Gold Coast Titans       – 1.25 Newcastle Knights      – 1.45
St George Illawarra Dragons – 1.25 Cronulla Sharks – 1.6
Wests Tigers – 1.3 New Zealand Warriors – 2.05

The chances are very good that the ‘winner’ of the spoon in 2015 will not have made the finals in 2014. All of the above sides fit that description. In 71.5 per cent of the seasons since 1980 the side that came last did not feature in the previous year’s finals series. In fact, in 51 per cent of the time the wooden spooner came in the bottom four the previous season. Nearly 25 per cent of the time we’ve had back-to-back spooners.

In the seasons from 1980 to 1997 only three sides that made the finals went on to win the wooden spoon the following year (16.6 per cent). However, these stats have changed significantly since the advent of the NRL in 1998, with 41 per cent of the teams that came last having made the finals the previous season.The odds are still 60 per cent that a non-finalist in 2014 will finish last in 2015.

The top eight

Ladbrokes thinks this is the most likely top eight in 2015:

South Sydney Rabbitohs – 1.18
Sydney Roosters – 1.25
Canterbury Bulldogs – 1.3
Penrith Panthers – 1.36
Brisbane Broncos – 1.4
North Queensland Cowboys – 1.42
Melbourne Storm – 1.5
Manly Sea Eagles – 1.57

You might notice that those are the same teams that made up the top eight in 2014. However, there has only been one instance in the last 35 seasons where exactly the same teams made the finals again the following year: in 1999.

The average changeover during the last three and a half decades is three sides. That means that three sides who did not make the finals one year went on to play in the finals the next. In fact, since 2005 we’ve had a four-side changeover on four occasions and once – 2010 – we’ve had five new finalists. So the odds are extremely good that the above will not be the final eight. The question is can you pick the up and comers?

Who is the most successful NRL team?
I have crunched the results from 1998 to 2014 to establish the ladder for the NRL era. It has been filtered first by the amount of premierships won, followed by the number of deciders played in and finally by each side’s average ladder position over the last 17 seasons.

While the NRL would have cause to be pleased that 10 of the 16 competing sides have won at least one premiership during this period, there should also be alarm that of the 34 grand finals spots that have been on offer, 23 (67.5 per cent) have been claimed by just five sides.

And yes, as the titles weren’t given to anyone else I’m still crediting the Storm with the 2007 and 2009 titles – for stats purposes if nothing else.

Rank Team Name Premierships Grand final appearances Wooden spoons Average ladder position Seasons made finals
1 Melbourne Storm 4 6 1 4.6 13/17
2 Brisbane Broncos 3 3 0 5.6 15/17
3 Sydney Roosters 2 6 1 6.2 11/17
4 Manly Warringah 2 4 0 6.5 10/14
5 Canterbury 1 4 2 6.7 11/17
6 St George 1 2 0 6.9 10/16
7 Newcastle 1 1 1 7.9 9/17
8 Wests Tigers 1 1 0 9.6 3/15
9 Penrith 1 1 2 9.8 5/17
10 South Sydney 1 1 3 10.6 4/15
11 Parramatta Eels 0 2 2 8 9/17
12 New Zealand 0 2 0 9 7/17
13 North Queensland 0 1 1 9.6 7/17
14 Cronulla Sharks 0 0 1 9.2 8/17
15 Canberra Raiders 0 0 0 9.5 9/17
16 Gold Coast Titans 0 0 1 10.25 2/8

The Crowd Says:

2015-02-13T03:52:52+00:00

Dylan

Roar Pro


+1

2015-02-12T21:13:03+00:00

mushi

Guest


Problem becomes sample size if you only use the <20 year history of the nrl the findings are to unreliable

2015-02-12T10:44:50+00:00

Busty McCracken

Guest


I thought Hodges showed massive potential though considering pressure of situation, lack of game experience & lack if go forward.. As a Manly fan i hope we can hold onto him coz he looks like a talent so far

2015-02-12T10:26:23+00:00

mushi

Guest


I wouldn't call that surface analysis minutiae : ) A few yearsback i looked at the correlation of every stat recorded on a season by season basis and its correlation to points allowed and scored which showed that soward was actually the best defensive half in the nrl (as metres kicked was more important than missed tackles which wererelatively meaningless)

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2015-02-12T05:41:59+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


1st is always dependent on injuries. I reckon it's out of the warriors or roosters. I reckon warriors may have fixed their defence issues and with rts at fullback and ferguson in the centres I reckon they'll be very dangerous. Last... Gold Coast. But realistically any if the 2014 bottom four

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2015-02-12T05:30:47+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


I reckon taking the warriors to make the finals is the one I like. They've now got friend and Hoffman to stiffen up their defence I think they are a real chance. McFadden has big wraps as a coach too.

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2015-02-12T05:00:48+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Totally agree

2015-02-12T04:34:13+00:00

AA

Guest


I like your article but am interested in what your conclusions may be? 1st? Last? New teams in the eight?

2015-02-12T04:06:18+00:00

Kirk

Guest


The number of seasons made finals stat is interesting. The Tigers have a shocking record of making the finals since 1998! The Titans as well - it's no surprise their attendance rate has steadily decreased. Amazingly only 6 teams have made the finals more years than the Raiders. However the Raiders I think are the only team to have not played in a Preliminary final since 1998.

2015-02-12T03:50:38+00:00

peeeko

Roar Guru


nice read Tim, gee some of those odds for top 8 teams are skinny. i would love to lay them at those prices

2015-02-12T03:07:56+00:00

David

Guest


Thanks for clearing that up, the way online betting agencies dominate rugby league these days it makes me quiet the skeptic!

2015-02-12T02:41:58+00:00

Parrafan

Guest


Agree Tim. Should have read the disclaimer above. Lol I've got mates who are parra fans still fuming about the Billy Slater fumble. WE were roaring home after that try from Fui, but it wasn't meant to be.

AUTHOR

2015-02-12T02:38:09+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


I love how into this you've gotten Mushi. You have a talent for minutiae!

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2015-02-12T02:37:20+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


A good point Nayfo

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2015-02-12T02:33:43+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Not a paid add David, I can assure you. Just where I got the odds.

AUTHOR

2015-02-12T02:30:45+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


It's actually the odds for missing the 8. Was the closest thing they had to that field. I used it as a rank order.

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2015-02-12T02:29:11+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


The Wok is still out there! Mr Moore is a superb caller and we are pretty excited about him heading up the team. Melbourne is certainly in the mix but age and injuries make you wonder. However, Craig Bellamy constantly makes fillet mignonette and au gratin out of what I thought were just meat and potatoes. Watch big Tommy Learoyd Lahrs bloom again. He's got a point to prove. He's also one of the nicer guys I've met in league.

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2015-02-12T02:25:30+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Gee they looked shaky without Ballin in the finals. So much hinges on him.

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2015-02-12T02:24:22+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


A very salient point.

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2015-02-12T02:23:38+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


No question the time spans are big. 1980 was chosen as it was the start of origin. I do narrow the sample when I talk wooden spoons.

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