Dave Smith should not put a blank cheque in front of Inglis

Yes RJ never felt better,BP 117. I now understand where you are coming from.But bear me out,I have spent an inordinate amount of my vauable time on rl threads,and encounter realistic critique and just plain discrete personal attacks. Not being a psychiatrist ,at times it is a tad difficult to differentiate between fun shots or discrete personal shots.It's not the way I operate. I respond accordingly. BTW not a case of assumptions(one leaves themselves open) the figures I provide are facts,as also the allocation of monies.Anyone can argue as to what should be spent and where. Consider your post CROSSchecked .

If they want to leave let them go. Who cares? There are always good juniors ready to come up and play. All sports stars are vastly overpaid compared to what they contribute. Pay them well by all means but if their greed leads them somewhere else let them go.

Hello very Cross , I hope you're well and I'm glad to hear you're a dyed in wool Leaguie. I don't like the term code. This is because it has always inferred a strange and illogical connection ( rather than a shared bit of history) with another sport that doesn't interest me and that has never had anything other than the ill will of a prime competitor. This thread is about the two "sports". I'm sorry you found my posts so annoying and my tone is just a bit of humour which you seem to have taken to heart. I don't want to take you to task over certain assumptions and facets of what you said or didn't say as that would just exacerbate the problem. In terms of an answer there is still plenty of money to keep Inglis in the coffers. I'm never sure what the best way to deal with this is but I do know what the other game will do with the "value" of Inglis the same thing they've done with SB - a quick read of the UK press since his signing will tell you everything you need to know. Anyway, I hope you're able to overcome this bump in the road, have a good day and a great season! :-)

RJ You are a funny man maybe.That well worn put down has been used on me before,Try Cross Bow to be a little different .Or even Cross Purposes. And for your information my friend,;I am a rl Internationalist ,have been following this game probably before you were born. I spent my hard earned on Kangaroo tours.Please respond with a little maturity in a public debate. You don't have to agree with me ,but at least show some courtesy as I have done with you.It's not hard.

Actually I answered his questions RJ which you appear to have overlooked for whatever reason. eg the question "Where is all the money they claim they have?". TV ratings are slef explanatory,they spread the word. He inferred the Tv deal $1bn TV deal a furphy.Whereas I politely point out it was over that figure and spelt out the make up and the rough allocations. I also stated the womens rugby league rep team are apparently being paid now ,to what extent I have not the foggiest. I'll use code 13,TGG,the running game,NRL in future if that is OK'.Pedantic is the word. Your last para shows the inevitable, play the man not the ball routine, as a pretentious put down.If I have to go down that route,then I will give up debating.Any respect is lost.

I have to ask if you're replying to me Breezy? If so I think you need to read who I was replying to in the first place! And if you are replying to me I'm not at all sure what point(s) you're making ?? If you're replying to Cross Dresser, as I was, I'm not sure there's any real mileage in that! I think the growth of football is easily explained by the patterning of migrant groups who had no affinity to RL on their arrival in Oz. The success of AFL is based very much on other migrant groups allied with the need for something particularly Aussie in the natural process of rejecting GB as the country grew, quite rightly, into a sense of itself (+ fair go of course). What is amazing, given its inauspicious beginnings and the animosity of kick and clap and the hierarchy at the time, is that RL exists at all! I do agree with you that expansion and NRL in the same sentence is an almost laughable contradiction but I think if you read other posts on here you'll see I'm a critic of the NRL and the RFL in this area and internationally speaking as well. But have a nice day anyway. :-)

If I've finished off with a statement Mr professor it's suppose to get a reaction that's why I said it. You want answers... question the Statement!! Like what does he mean by??.."What good are tv ratings, billion dollar tv deals if not used to your advantage!!" The words are right there TV RATINGS look it up. Nrl ( Rugby League) had 3 of the top 5 shows on Australian tv in 2014 correct me if I'm wrong, so what does it mean??.. well it equals " Show me the Money" = you guessed it billion dollar tv deal!! The Nrl in the last couple of years have been showing it's worth through high tv ratings for its respective network. Now with all this wealth & exposure on free to air major network on Channel 9 it's seems the Nrl has an advantage on Most of its competitors. Rugby Union who are yet to have Super Rugby or Nrc on free to air networks limiting national exposure & Millions of dollars for the code yet even with the Aru financial short comings it can still afford to pay for Women's Rugby at the top level which is strange considering women's Rugby league are only now being paid according to Crosscoder & that's what I meant by "advantage" Rugby league have the upper hand here in Australia but fail to -- - broadcast the nines on free to air - Pay for women's rugby league at the top level - Compete with rival codes to keep their players, No worries billion dollar tv deal should do the trick I guess not. - Expand to other cities outside of Sydney which is embarrassing considering the A - league, AFL & Rugby have a team in most states of Australia yet they call them self the National Rugby league!!

I agree with you , or at least part of me does, when people go they've gone! TGG carries on and always will! And given what yawn has got up to with regards to our game in more or less every country we tried to place ourselves apart from PNG I have to take a backward step to avoid having a go at changelings all day everyday. But economically the sport as whole cannot languish too far behind the competitors in the market place and this is just common sense. In truth, it is the French RL hierarchy who have always understood this better than anyone else in the sport and were prepared to do more about furthering the game. I sometimes feel that if they had had the pre-eminent position held at different times by the UK and Oz we would now be ahead of the rest.

Well as long as your breathing life support is all good. I guess the only game that provides good lip service in growing the sport is rugby league all talk!!

Interesting makes alot of sense well said!!

I don't know what concerns me more, the fact that I don't know what your point is at the end of your posts or the fact that you use the phrase "the code" so often, bit of a give away that one. And as for "make my day" thanks for that one from now on I'm going to use Keyboard Clint as a reference point for assessment of posts and arguments. When breeze101 asks, "What good are tv ratings, billion dollar tv deals if not used to your advantage!!" it might be nice if you answered the question rather than providing a tangential statement of accounts! It does make me wonder if the nurses have being playing fast and loose with your life support machine again?

Yes I'm on the side of TGG! And using disingenuous words like disingenuous doesn't alter the argument nor does it make you right. The growth of Youtube alone has almost made sports anonymity as extinct as the Dodo. Televised sport and live streaming have turned everything on its head in recent years. Even SL has just managed to secure several TV deals that will create a more global presence. But imagine if the NRL and RFL truly worked together on how to manage and market brand RL and added a real international calender. While these two things remain unaltered league will look like a poor relation even if that is far from the truth. But then again what has sport and image ever had to do with the truth. For over a century Vichy behaved in a way that was a disgrace to the very idea of sport and now they're in the Olympics! Go figure?

Breeze101. The code has a min $1.025bn- 5 year Tv deal IOW $200m PA The clubs each secure a grant of $7.55m pa x 16=120.8m pa On top of this funding is used for head office admin,refs/DOs,junior development,PNG/PIs,charities promotion. In 2013 the code made a profit of $40m which is put aside into a futures fund.The year 2014 results are not due out for at least a fortnight ,and are expected to show a further profit increase. BTW the code had SFA funds on hand in 2012,part of the blame sheeted to the poor Gallop negotiated TV deal. I understand the women's rugby league are finally earning money when they represent,the amount I have no idea ATM.And about time I might add. Now if you consider the above figures fake,go ahead and make my day with evidence.

Oh Goodie!! A conspiracy theory. Now....we dance.....on the clouds. Wake up with snapped limbs.

I said when the money on offer is comparable, then other things may be the determining factor. Plus, goto raiders at that time and become invisible - career suicide. Less money overall? hmmm No, so im not just saying this -- it failed the test. Its still about money. It all still hinges on it.

I think making Inglis captain was done with the though that it will help keep him at South Sydney until he retires. Apart from Ennis, Hayne and Lewis, who was demoted from captain prior to his leaving, I can't recall captains not staying until retirement.

I don't mind who is going away from league. It is the toughest game on earth and I love it, this is what counts!

There is a consistent assumption on the part of RL fans that no one has heard of the NRL or SL! Why is this? Simply because it's part of a mythology spread by people who do not have our game's interests at heart. If they'd never been heard of there would be no interest in the players at all. If Vichy coaches are watching so are other people who don't follow the game. RL has suffered from the NRL inability to see the world wide potential of the sport and to act like the RFL when something doesn't work immediately it's dropped forever. It's amazing they've stuck with SOO given its inauspicious start. Our sport has also suffered from the idea prevalent in yawnion circles that one or two RL players can be the difference between doing well in a tournament or not. Even Albert Ferasse, a man who did everything he could to destroy French RL admitted that RL produced excellent qualities in players. And he wasn't talking spiritual or moral ones. Of course the world has heard of RL , and it recognises what a great product it is, and the only thing missing is a world wide RL marketing and international strategy!

Well, we certainly know which side you'll always be on! I'm not saying no one outside of the areas I've stated knows of Inglis - that's what talent scouts are for. I you can get a talented athlete who will be a star player, it's obvious you're going to get interest. Grabbing a player from a lowly division in Soccer to play the EPL doesn't mean that lowly club is going to do better - quite often the opposite. Disingenuous comments about McCaw don't alter the fact that you have to be a huge star in a big international game (hence the Messi reference) to have any afterglow from the previous sport rub off outside traditional areas.

Totally agree.