[Highlights] Victory beat Roar to all but seal A-League premiership

I should add that my "degenerate fanbase" is a key factor in keeping this league afloat. Let's see the HAL survive without my "degenerate fanbase"bumping up season attendances year after year. Youre a one dimensional character whose thinking extends to "me like roar, me hate victory" *pounds chest and grunts*

Thanks for confirming my point that you play the man and not the ball.. You are unable to debate without hurling personal insults. So let me sink to your level a sec. My fascination with Brisbane roar? Haha! Coming from the guy accusing RBBA, one of the most astute and balanced posters on here, of loving Melbourne victory and weaving irrelevant topics into the thread to suit your agenda in attacking MV.. If I'm fascinated with roar you're obsessed with Melbourne and let's face it, a perhaps little intimidated too? You're unable to make objective comments about predicaments other clubs may be involved in without advertising your insecurities. Sorry if that's too many big words for you to understand. "Take your medication".. And "clown"....You get an A+ for originality and creativity.. Degenerate - having lost the physical, mental, or moral qualities considered normal and desirable. Sums you up to a T.

Hmmm, so much tension and bad feeling on this web site. Is it necessary?

Just saw this. My comments came after reading your diatribe again about Brisbane Roar and your fascination with us. You are an MV clown. Because you make me laugh. At you. And your degenerate fan base. Listen to yourself 'running amok' 'you are here to bring us down a peg or two' 'we are unchecked' Take your medication please.

I note you've got your avatar back ?. These must be heady weeks for Fussball ist unser leben .....

Ian "These two are the representatives of the most degenerate fanbase in the A-League (yet again proved by their actions at the game last night)." Get a load of this guy!!!!! Haha! I draw the line when u attack my character and that of my club/city/fanbase. So, me and fuss played in the game last night? Lol Is the fan base degenerate or the MV side or the whole club? Or just me and fuss? Please don't respond to those questions, they are rhetorical. Just because there are more Brisbane fans on this forum doesn't give you artistic license to run amok. You guys have been unchecked on here for waaay too long.. Time somebody stepped in and knocked u lot down a few pegs. Like I said to jb, you should, as I have been doing, vent your anger in the right direction..at the system, at the substandard refs..at the FFAs inability to organise competent officiating...not personally attack opposition clubs and their management and fans when a decision goes against you. Grow up.

Ed Wyatt's review this morning sums it up nicely although I've no idea who Arjen Robben is, anyone know? (Published in various sites this morning): Brisbane Roar 0 def. by Melbourne Victory 1 The good: Victory have more than likely sealed the Premier’s Plate with a win in what was the second entertaining match between these two teams this week. There were plenty of good chances and some real intensity from both sides. The bad: It’s a shame the only goal of the match was a dubious penalty that was accentuated by Carl Valeri's Arjen Robben-like claim. The pleasant surprise: Brisbane coach Frans Thijssen chose to field a number of youngsters, but they accorded themselves well. The bit of levity: Young Shannon Brady was penalised for a handball that could have had viewers wondering if he’d grown up playing Gaelic football.

I agree we started poorly but we've had a quite a few really unfortunate own goals, woodwork denials, injuries together with national duties and incorrect decisions that resulted in goals. Still a significant amount of bad luck.

Big game on Tuesday. Will need to play better than we did on Saturday. Kashima are coming off a win against Guangzhou. Hope people turn up. I'm taking a group of 9 into bay 57.

Bondy I wouldn't be so pessimistic. I saw CCM up close at AAMI Park a few weeks ago. They were very impressive with their discipline, structure, defensive organisation, pressing and transition. The only thing lacking is the final killer ball, or the final shot. If WSW don't want Kerem Bulut, either Jets or CCM should make a move for him. I've been very impressed by how quickly Walmsley has transformed CCM from the atrocious style under Phil Moss to a team I thoroughly enjoy watching. Same can be said for Stubbins. I thoroughly enjoy watching Jets in recent weeks. The movement, the commitment to pressing as a team.

We aren't out of it just yet Bondy hold on. If we make it past the group stage which is still very much possible then next A-league season we will again be suffering in the early part of the season.

Fussball We've conceded 9 goals in our last two away games and have just appointed Walmsley full time ,I have nothing but worry for next season too .. The Drive By's will be a force next season without Champs Lge Foootball ...

@Midfielder Everyone is entitled to an opinion, so it doesn't concern me how long a poster has been on this site and neither it should you. All that matters is that people are entitled to voice their opinion without being disrespected or vilified. I have done neither, nor have I felt that from JB's posts. We have a few run in battles, sometimes I agree and other times I don't. As for facts and figures I totally agree with you. I like seeing facts, figures and some analysis to posts. I was merely responding to JB's posts about Gallops targets not being met to the tune of 8%. I think I have put a lot of thoughtful reasoning behind why this hasn't occurred and JB has concurred with my reasons. The post JB put forward was that he was "worried" about a trend developing in our game and why crowds have decreased. I sincerely hope my reasoning has placated some of his and maybe even your worries. Our game is in great shape and will only get better. As for a tipping point, not to sure. That seems a little abstract, but there are some interesting developments and "hot" topics at the moment. Some of those include new teams, new administrators (Taliadoros), new tv deals, academies (MC), free to air tv, and possible relaxing of the salary cap (CCM and Charleworth). All exciting developments.

RBB JB has been on this site for a long time and I find him to be a very positive poster in the main... he also has reasons for the fall in crowds and some mirror yours ... WE should not be afraid of the figures we need to look an do some analysis ... personally I have a gut feeling and a strong gut feeling some very good news it is not that far away... There has been a paradigm shift, in how Football is being treated in Australia... The tipping point has happened now, and new reality is just how fast is it going to go.

@ Fuss I have no doubt that the Asian cup did play apart in dwindling interest in the A-league, but there were other factors as well which contributed. Another factor was that the A-league table was pretty decided at that point. If there is nothing to play for of course fan interest will fall decline. You have to also remember that the cricket world cup was also occurring at this point and would have also had an effect if it was a modest one. Having catch up games midweek is also something that needs to be addressed. The season needs to start earlier to accommodate scheduling changes that may occur during the season. In any case we are still chugging along nicely. The future is brighter than ever for the A-league.

Yes, Middy. I'd heard this a few days ago. I've never had any depth of knowledge in relation to internal politics of AUS football, but, from the little I've been reading, this appointment is great news for Victorian football.

Fuss Your thp's http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/former-socceroo-kimon-taliadoross-rise-to-power-could-herald-new-era-20150419-1mo7s2.html Buried by salary cap scandals and World Cup draws, the news that former Socceroo Kimon Taliadoros was recently elected as the new president of Football Federation Victoria barely rated a mention. True enough, the politics of the game don't hold the same morbid fascination as they once did. But this matters. A lot. Taliadoros, by my reckoning, becomes only the second former international to rise to the top of a state federation. Jack Reilly also ran the game in Victoria during the late 1980s, and until recently was a board member of the FFA. It's probably no coincidence that Reilly advised Taliadoros during a typically robust election campaign – one which saw him pip another former NSL player, Jeff Doyle, at the post. In a sport sabotaged by internecine politics for so much of its history, we can only wonder how different things might have been if more elite players had made the transition from dressing-room to boardroom. Perhaps we wouldn't have needed Frank Lowy to save football from itself. Who knows? What I do know is that if it wasn't for a built-in prejudice against former players by the game's political class, Taliadoros would have been in a position of power well before now. The man who helped establish the players' union, the PFA – and has variously been a television pundit, coach, referee and administrator since hanging up his boots 14 years ago – possesses a skill-set few can match. Nonetheless he has repeatedly missed out on roles with the FFA and A-League clubs, and failed in a bid to become president of NSW four years ago. Advertisement It's a tribute to his perseverance that he hasn't given up. It's a tribute to his faith that despite the knockbacks he's more enthusiastic than ever. And now he gets the chance he's always wanted – to influence. Two weeks into a four-year term, he's already hit the ground running. Top priority at local level is improving grassroots infrastructure and coaching, and doubling Victoria's registration base to 100,000. But it's his contribution at a national level which will be especially interesting. It's been more than a decade since Frank Lowy took charge of a broken, and broke, game. But now he's getting ready to go, and hot favourite to replace him as FFA chairman is his son, Steven. Ten votes will decide the outcome of the election later this year — nine from the state federations and one from the A- League. The numbers look solid for a seamless transition, but there's also a growing body of opinion that Lowy junior needs to pay due respect to process and run a campaign. This week in Sydney, the state federation presidents have been invited to break bread with Steven Lowy over lunch. It's a start. Taliadoros will be there in his newly-minted role, but as a familiar face to the FFA chairman-elect. For a while in the late 1990s he coached the Hakoah Old Boy's team. The striker in those days? Steven Lowy. It's a bond, and it counts for something. But if you know Taliadoros well enough, you also know he's very much his own man. Always has been, always will be. Having been involved from the top of the game right to the bottom his perspective is now both deep and wide. In terms of raising the bar in a political sense, his arrival is well-timed. At the very least, we can expect a livelier debate. The real story here, though, is what Taliadoros represents. Not just as a former elite player, but more importantly as a graduate of the PFA breeding ground. It's been more than two decades since the players' union was established, and in that time it's groomed a long list of lateral thinkers with the potential to reshape the game. Having finally opened the door to political power, Taliadoros has given others a reason to follow. Let's see what a difference it makes.

@JB Hopefully those reasons I have given you have satisfied your curiosity in explaining where David Gallops 8% might have went. Glad your now an optimist, that's quite a backflip from your "worrisome" trend from an earlier post. Onwards and upwards with the A-league. Yay.

Good point on Theijssen - he's the most straight-forward talking coach in the HAL. I still think he's 50/50 for the job full time as I don't think Roar (like Mariners also) have been able to attract the candidates they wanted

Fuss - definitely agree with that, but there's still a question mark on three sides for me - Perth and what they will look like after they've ditched the excess, Wanderers and can they stay stable or will they churn yet more players, and Roar and their new coach. If all those get addressed successfullyit's going to look like a 10 horse race for the first time in history.