Pies get away with Crisp deal

By Leigh Eustace / Roar Guru

The early indications have the Pies as the big winners out of the Dayne Beams deal.

There’s no doubting the credentials of Brisbane’s acquisition – Beams is a premiership player, a best and fairest winner and an All-Australian – but the players Collingwood were able to trade him for are not just seemingly better value than first thought, their list looks a lot more likely to compete for silverware sooner than we originally thought.

Much was made about Beams’ decision to head home to Queensland to be around his family and play alongside his brother.

The Pies were after some of the Lions’ prized talent in the trade, and credit to Brisbane for standing firm and keeping their stars off the trade table.

The Pies got Pick 5, Pick 25 and Jack Crisp in the deal, and Lions fans were laughing.

Pick 25 was turned into Levi Greenwood, hardly the big fish Pies’ fans were after. An inside midfielder who was offered big years and money to leave Arden St, truth be told not too many Maggies fans could honestly say they knew who Greenwood was.

Pick 5 became Jordan De Goey, and while their track record at this selection holds up (the current captain was a pick 5) he was no Christian Petrecca.

So the Pies lost a premiership player for a kid and two question marks, and the pressure began to mount on the broad shoulders of Nathan Buckley.

However, a month in (a small sample size, granted) things are looking up at the Westpac Centre.

Firstly, let’s cover off Beams’ impact in Brisvegas. Put simply, there hasn’t really been one.

Yes, the tattoo enthusiast has surpassed 30 disposals twice in four hitouts, but his influence on the games, especially when his side needs him given the team’s start to the year, hasn’t been where Justin Leppitsch would expect.

In Round 1 against his former side, Beams stacked up plenty of the ball but not only was his first half barley hurting the Pies, he wasn’t even one of the real catalysts for the home side’s second-half comeback.

Brisbane sit zero and four and with a local derby against the fellow struggling Suns this week, zero and five would be nothing short of disastrous for the Lions. The Beams coup has hardly paid off thus far.

Over to the emerging Pies and things don’t look half bad.

De Goey wore the substitute vest in the first game, didn’t do a whole lot with his limited game time, and was sent back to the magoos for further conditioning and development. Since then he has been the Pies’ best player in the first two VFL rounds and he looks destined to be a gun AFL midfielder for the next 10 years plus.

Jack Crisp, the proverbial steak knives in the deal, played 18 games at Brisbane but has played every one of the four rounds so far. Rounds 1 and 2 he was a solid contributor without being outstanding, but in the Pies’ big win over St Kilda he moved into the centre square and looked properly comfortable.

On Anzac Day – the game’s biggest stage bar a grand final – Crisp was among the side’s best as they took down a bonafide top-four contender, firstly doing a great run-with role with the likes of Jobe Watson and Dyson Heppell and then having a real impact going the other way.

He looks to be a long-term player for the Pies and where he isn’t likely to develop into an a-grade midfielder, he certainly has the makings of being a key member of a midfield rotation that’s going to scare a lot of teams in the years to come.

While Collingwood’s good start to the year needs to be tempered as they’ve had a relatively easy draw to date, the inclusion of a player such as Levi Greenwood in the second half of the year all of a sudden looks immense.

Here’s a man who came runner-up in the 2014 North Melbourne best and fairest. Even though he comes across as slightly unfashionable and under the radar, he is 26 years old, entering his prime, and those in the know will tell you that North’s remarkable second-half comeback in the final last year against Essendon had a lot to do with the skills, grunt and ticker of one Levi Greenwood.

That sort of player, alongside the likes of Scott Pendlebury, Dane Swan, a returning Steele Sidebottom, an emerging Taylor Adams, incumbent Anzac Day medalist Paul Seedsman plus the aforementioned De Goey and Crisp? Before you know it, the Maggies could be right back on track.

It’s not quite ‘Dayne who?’ just yet, but credit to the Pies for getting a very reasonable return against very early assessment.

The Crowd Says:

2015-04-29T03:55:47+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


I'm sure Beams will be good...once Rockliff, Rich and Redden..Aish...are all up and running. So far, Beams has not had the full midfield...or, in Rich and Redden's case, readjustment to tempo in their comebacks. I've always felt that much of Beams' excellence has been the product of Swan and Pendlebury taking the heat. Perhaps he needs the heat to be on Rockliff and Rich before he can shine as a third string.

2015-04-29T02:45:56+00:00

Josh

Expert


One half decent game from Crisp and suddenly the Pies are winning the trade? Can't say I agree. Beams has had a rough start at Brisbane but we will need a lot more than a month of footy to make a call on this one.

2015-04-28T07:56:43+00:00

Alexander Bonacci

Roar Rookie


Beams may have seemed irreplaceable and yes his accolades say that as well, however from what ive seen in the early stages i think we have done well to replace him as best as we can, he was always going to get better but now we have 3 players who can go into that team and play their role which will help us out.

2015-04-28T07:15:18+00:00

Tricky

Guest


Really? You're questioning the value of Dayne Beams?! Firstly I'd like to mention that Brisbane have been bitterly disappointing and are much better than that - but NO PLAYER IS THE TEAM. For Dayne to get better he needs his team to lift as well. Your midfield would suggest that this side is a potential finals contender. Secondly NO ONE CAN REPLACE DAYNE BEAMS, he is elite as well as a unique player - he is both an inside and outside midfielder this is very rare and to compare Crisp to him well you just can't, sure he quelled Watson but it is evident that Essendon was off their game plan as admitted by Hird himself. Also Crisp is relatively unknown and is a different style of player similar to McCaffer. De Goye has certainly not proved himself, and Greenwood when we get him back our midfield is still not as rated yours - it is yet to be proven. We have 3rd youngest list and 2nd least experienced & we have played well against teams that have been off on the day, just look at our game against the crows - it shows there is a big gap between our best and worst. Whichever you boil it, polish it, cook it - it is undeniable Dayne Beams is irreplaceable.

2015-04-28T03:17:28+00:00

Tiarne Swersky

Roar Guru


A friend of mine who supports Sydney made the observation that Crisp reminds him of a Josh Kennedy type. Big bodied, tall midfielder. Definitely early days, but a great compliment from a Sydney fan after his performance on the weekend.

2015-04-28T02:45:29+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Booming will do me. He'll get the rest right.

2015-04-28T02:25:18+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


My experience was that it was booming but rather inaccurate.

2015-04-28T02:12:26+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Well, just as I was framing a comment about Crisp, Paul, I read your comment. My one impression of Crisp from Brissy games last year was, "Wow! This boy can kick!" He's a booming left footer...isn't he? (Pendlebury style?) Or am I looking at another player? (No, I'm not thinking about Rich). Love to hear some Collingwood comments but I don't know of any Collingwood fans on The Roar.

2015-04-27T22:28:01+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


Couple of things. Firstly, I think you’re expecting a bit much to think Beams was going to come into the Lions side and immediately grab the midfield by the scruff of the neck and dominate. Players always struggle to adjust when they shift clubs – particularly when Beams is now at a club that is playing the worst football out of the 18 right now. Added to the fact is that with Hanley and Rockliff out, he’s one of the main targets for the tag, which previously he didn’t get too much of at the Pies, and it’s safe to say he’s going to take a while to adjust. I like what I’ve seen so far – he’s worked hard and is a composed presence in the midfield which we need badly. I wouldn’t be writing him off after 4 games. 4 of the worst games the Lions have served up in a fair while I might add. I doubt any player could come in and turn that sort of dross into gold. Secondly, with the Pies side of things, I think they did very well to get picks 5, 25 and Crisp for Beams. I certainly wasn’t laughing at that price. If you can teach Crisp how to kick he might actually make a passable AFL footballer. Lord knows we tried and couldn’t. Anyways, it’s not a bad article, for a Collingwood fan – however, as you admit, 4 games is far too small a sample size to be calling the trade a success or a failure at this stage.

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