Grand final preview? The stakes of West Coast vs Hawthorn

By Jay Croucher / Expert

“Come at the king, you best not miss.” The West Coast Eagles will be heeding the words of Omar Little from The Wire on Saturday night at Domain Stadium.

For the past four years, Hawthorn have been the AFL’s Stringer Bell – an unassuming leader, coldly measured and efficient, but brutal and unforgiving when they have to be.

The ladder might imply otherwise, but we know, and they know, that the Hawks are still the league’s kings.

The Eagles are their closest contender.

By most metrics, Saturday night will be a match-up of the AFL’s two best teams. The Hawks and Eagles rank top two in the league for inside 50 differential, marks inside 50, disposal efficiency, points scored and percentage. The concern for West Coast is that they run second to their three-peat aspiring rivals in each of those categories.

The fact that neither team is coming off a win should not diminish Saturday night’s drama. Last Friday night was in many ways Richmond’s biggest game in a decade, while for the Hawks it was their fourth most important game of the past five weeks.

Up north the Eagles dominated the Gold Coast in virtually every stat, they just didn’t win the game. The whole match was bizarre and the last five minutes were an exercise in surrealism, like a bad dream sequence in a David Lynch film. As flippant as it may be, sometimes you can just write off games as, “Well, that was weird.”

After eight wins in a row for Hawthorn and 12 in 13 games for West Coast, both these teams were due let-downs – it’s fitting that they happened within 24 hours of each other.

Given that they’re six points clear at the top of the ladder and have only been beaten twice all season, Fremantle has an argument to be included in the contender discussion. But they’re 27 percentage points behind the Eagles, 37 behind Hawthorn, and they haven’t had a truly impressive win since demolishing North Melbourne in Round 8.

The Dockers might have the stingiest defence in the league (although Hawthorn and West Coast have both only conceded 32 more points than Fremantle this season) but they lack the offensive firepower to match-up to their more explosive rivals, ranking a meek ninth in points scored.

Freo can mount their case next week by toppling their neighbours in what is looming as arguably the most meaningful Western Derby of all time, but for the time being they’re running two spots below their ladder position in the contender argument.

There have been a number of astounding narratives in the AFL this year: the Bulldogs’ feel-good phoenix-like rise from the ashes, Port Adelaide’s unforeseeable descent into mediocrity, and Essendon’s impressive efforts week after week to establish new boundaries for their insipidness, to name a few. But in reality, and in the context of what really matters, all these stories pale in comparison to the remarkable transformation of West Coast.

Along with Luke Beveridge, Adam Simpson has been the coach of the season, and his defensive web is compensating for his team’s crippled height in the back-line. On the weekend the Hawks, with their potent ball movement and four-headed hydra of Jarryd Roughead, Jack Gunston, Luke Breust and Cyril Rioli, will be the greatest test yet for West Coast’s defence and will likely reveal to us whether the structure is just an impressively elaborate configuration of smoke and mirrors or something more solid.

If the Eagles win, a home qualifying final is all but sewn up and they’ll be two home victories away from their first grand final since ‘who would have thought the sequel would be just as good as the original?

If they lose, an eminently navigable road to the big dance becomes littered with landmines. Third place will become a troublingly realistic possibility and with it a path to the grand final that may have to go through Hawthorn at the MCG, the suddenly ominous Tigers, and the Dockers in the derby that would break Western Australia.

The stakes are far lower for Hawthorn. So long as they finish in the top four they will be flag favourites and rightfully so. The 2003 Brisbane Lions and 2005 Sydney Swans both had to win interstate finals en route to the flag, and although Hawthorn have not had to play such a final since 2010, leaving Victoria’s borders should hold no fear for them.

So often heavyweight clashes that come when finals are just over the horizon come down to ‘who does it mean more to?’

In 2008 when a young, surging Hawthorn played a 15-1 defending champion Geelong in Round 17 in front of 86,000 people at the MCG, the game meant infinitely more to the Hawks. When you’re a young team and you just don’t quite know if you’re good enough, you need that proven performance against the real deal as affirmation of your legitimacy. You need something to hold onto – to make what you think what you actually know.

The Hawks didn’t win that game, but they proved their credibility by taking Geelong down to the final minutes. Two months later they had the ultimate credibility in trophy form.

On Saturday night, the Eagles will be those young Hawks. The game just means more to them. They don’t have to win but they need to take something positive from the clash. A one-sided Hawthorn victory would be just as crushing mentally for the Eagles as it would be practically.

Whatever happens, this game will have serious repercussions for September, and potentially October. Sometimes grand finals are decided in the second week of August.

The Crowd Says:

2015-08-09T09:24:15+00:00

Gecko

Guest


I'm trying not to imagine a WC-Freo grand final and the objective, blase tone that would come out of the West.

2015-08-08T09:37:33+00:00

jax

Guest


Sinclair is a late out. That's 5 changes from last week.

2015-08-08T05:26:45+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Excitement you think? I know for my part I was just having a laugh about the perceptions on Freo's plight with fellow Freo supporters, which seemed to fit with Axel's comment. I have to admit I didn't have a close look at Rick's post. I'm also not sure saying Freo's supporters have been the most "rabid" this season would stand up to any form of more objective analysis. I'd like a in depth qualitative content analysis please ;) . I reckon you might find WC supporters have been far more vocal especially as the year has worn on. Pereception is also really pertinent with this. Try imagining the posts with a lighter more blasé tone, rather than a terse one and see if that makes a difference.

2015-08-08T01:30:30+00:00

jax

Guest


Quite a few of your comments seem to about human behaviour and psychology. I have seen you comment on person X doing behaviour X in one thread and then I see you carry out behaviour X in another thread. It seems that you are pointing out the traits in yourself but you make it about 'others' in your comments. Why don't you replace words like 'the footy public' etc with 'I' For example. "I have a short attention span for most things outside of my immediate spotlight. Massively short." Just a suggestion. I am assuming that you are one of us of course ie a human, general public etc? If you are part of some special breed that is immune from faults and criticisms do let me know. Speaking in 1st person might be very therapeutic.

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2015-08-08T01:22:47+00:00

Jay Croucher

Expert


A few comments... 1. While I appreciate the fact that West Coast's list is largely similar to the team that won finals in 2011 and 2012, this 2015 incarnation feels like a new team to me. There hasn't been significant turnover in terms of raw numbers, but look at the players that have left: Daniel Kerr, Dean Cox, Darren Glass, Andrew Embley, Beau Waters (to a lesser extent, Quinten Lynch and Adam Selwood, plus Eric Mackenzie was a big part of those sides and obviously hasn't played this season) those guys were the heart of those 11/12 teams. There's also a new coach and new playing style - the team has been totally revamped. 2. No disrespect intended to Fremantle. They're fine. They're a virtual lock for a top two spot, and they're well positioned to mount a flag challenge. It's just that over the past three months their form hasn't stacked up to West Coast and Hawthorn, that's a reality. But the AFL is fluid, and your form in round 18 doesn't necessarily dictate whether or not you're going to win the flag. We'll have a better idea about Freo after the derby. 3. An oversight of mine neglecting to mention '06 West Coast as a team that won a final interstate en route to a flag, I was just considering teams that finished outside the top 2 (the Eagles finished on top that season).

2015-08-07T15:03:29+00:00

Gecko

Guest


OK, I'll try. It's the amount of excitement above, all induced by Rick's very reasonable comment about West Coast's consistency.

2015-08-07T13:41:23+00:00

Freo As

Guest


Aww Crackers. Very rich of you. Your chip is so big it can't be called a chip no more. It's more like a hulking inferiority beast all sat on odd. As much as you sail down de Nile, you know deep down it's coming to a dead end very very very soon.

2015-08-07T13:37:13+00:00

Freo As

Guest


Aggrrrrghrrgh!!!!!!!

2015-08-07T10:50:30+00:00

jax

Guest


Your memory serves you right in '06 as I recall.

2015-08-07T09:35:51+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


Isn't that what started the Kennett Curse.... :D

2015-08-07T09:24:11+00:00

BNR

Guest


Hope they go well for you, Jye.

2015-08-07T09:19:17+00:00

BNR

Guest


Agree; yes basing my thoughts on one game. WCE at home & it could be argued that they come off an easier game last round. Roughead to be better this week. We'll know the result soon enough.

2015-08-07T08:52:36+00:00

Brad

Guest


The fixture excuse has just about run out WIG, the Eagles only have to play Hawthorn and they have played every team at least once. They have lost 3 and drawn once. Give it up!!

2015-08-07T08:19:28+00:00

Lroy

Guest


I think you'll find the 2006 Eagles had to beat the Crows in Adelaide after being rolled by the Swans in the first week of the finals. So, if you add back the 97 Crows.. only 4 sides have won the flag after playing every week in the finals... you would say that it is imperative that you get a top 2 spot and win that first final if you are serious about winning a flag. It really is all on the line for both clubs this weekend. Hawks lose, top 2 is over.. Eagles lose.. well .. backs against the wall, given the Dockers await the following week.

2015-08-07T07:46:54+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Ah Jaxon...so if a team wins, they are less impressive than the team that lost because the team that lost actually won and gave that game to Freo?...I get it. So Freo gave that win to Hawthorn? Hawks are struggling big time now...unless they won that game against Richmond but they gave the points back to Richmond. Now , who gets what points? Better to stick with the system that says the team that has the most points is the team that wins the most.

2015-08-07T07:30:57+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Weren't convincing to whom? I'm convinced. They are the top side. I get what you're saying though. GWS, WB and St Kilda actually look better.

2015-08-07T07:07:40+00:00

WhereIsGene

Guest


West Coast are pretenders. Butter soft fixture, got smashed by Freo, lucked out by coming up against Sydney without Franklin & Tippett at home and faced up against Richmond on a night the Tigers decided not to turn up in much the same way Hawthorn did last week. This will be the acid test for the Eagles and I have a feeling their defense is about to be badly exposed.

2015-08-07T07:06:04+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Really? Define rabid. :P

2015-08-07T06:43:24+00:00

Hawker

Guest


'because they also have the Cats, who may well still have enough in the tank to inflict a potential 7th loss on them.' regardless of what happens in perth , there is no way we're losing to geelong.

2015-08-07T06:33:16+00:00

jax

Guest


I get your point Axel and it would be easy to agree but there are two ways to look at this, maybe more. Freo had a super start to the season convincgly beating all before them. During the second half of their season they have won most games but not convincingly in many of them and certainly not as convincingly as they did in the earlier rounds. On wins alone Freo are obviously the most consistent but when it comes to delivering the same high standards of football across the entire season WC has been the most consistent team amd without putting words into Rick's mouth I believe that is what he meant. You also said 'wins are a good measure' but how you win (and play) is just as important eg the Cats won 7 close games last year and played finals. Many of their wins weren't very convincing and that's why it's not quite as simple as pure win/loss IMO.

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