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Dalgety Carrington

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That’s a myth. The WC have shown themselves to be more concerned with Freo, than Freo are with the WC.

How about an encore? Comprehensive AFL season previews (Part 1)

I’d go with more opened up the role for Blakely to go into, but essentially poh-tay-toe/poh-tah-toe.

Yep, it seems a part of the apprenticeship. I wouldn’t be surprised if Brayshaw gets a bit of a run down there next season, Cerra has already dipped his toe in those waters.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

Ha…”You’d say” eh? I’m sure you’d say anything Mr Dishonest if it meant some chance of getting attention and/or soothing your fragile ego.

So you predicted the prelim achievement in 2015? Well done.

I’ll see your flimsy claims and raise them, I’ve been right in 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 and 2018. Yes, we will see what caveats and massaging you do to try and fluff your boringly rigid negative broad brushstrokes out of flaccidness in 2019. 😀

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

You know, in the unlikely event you don’t scupper Bennell’s chances with your kissofdeathery, you’ll get zero credit for being right should he get any substantial time out in Freo colours given how many times you’ve predicted such things before only for them to quickly turn into an acrid puff of smoke. Not just for Bennell, but also for years and years of Morabito and Apeness jinxing.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

Just on the young players’ improvement, Banfield, Brayshaw and Cerra, while showing good glimpses of their potential did so while not being massively prolific. So into next year, there’d be plenty of scope for improving their output, yet not having to be considered mainstays of the team.

Langdon may go backwards, but next year he’s nudging out of the youngster category. Ryan too was a more mature pick-up at drafting, so may be less inclined to the vagaries of 3rd-year blues.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

That sucks big time. Here’s hoping it’s the last and he’s able to get back before schedule.

Sam Docherty's season over after knee injury at training

Blakely was sat at half-back because Lyon wants players who have multiple strings to their bows. He spent much of the previous year in the midfield, taking on quite a few tagging roles. He showed himself to be very dynamic in there and hard at the contested ball. I remember him making a big impression on Dermott Brereton with how fierce he was at the contest. The big question mark might be whether his body needs to mature a bit more.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

It’ll be interesting how yet another big influx of players across the off-season plays out across 2019. At this stage almost everything you could ask for at training has come about, barring Stephen Hill.

The talent is there, it’s just how they gel and how the youngsters come on. Lyon’s big thing is getting teams to play as a cohesive unit though, it could happen sooner rather than later.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

You’re not the brightest spark going round are you? Slane basically pointed out that teams get belted it’s not necessarily defining for their future and you try and counter it by saying but other teams get belted. Genius.

I’ll look forward to your bodgy logic trying to make out you were right no matter what happens as the 2019 season kicks in.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

I’d be thinking a 2019 quite similar to the Bombers’ or Port’s 2018 for Freo. A bit scratchy in parts, but hopefully string together irresistible footy for extended periods.

Of course, they seem poised to take the AFL by storm at this stage of the pre-season, unlike every other team out there.

Watch out for Bewley, he’s been turning heads with what he’s shown at training and could get opportunities for Stephen Hill’s spot early on.

While Logue has turned up this preseason a bit of a physical monster and has been very impressive so far.

Fremantle Dockers 2019 season preview, best 22 and predicted finish

No overdramatics there at all. That sort of emotionally driven response generally plays out with a high degree of irrational rigidity.

Logically I’m not sure how the lifeblood of the very sport could be threatened by administrative management of teams between two leagues.

The biggest problem would be how you could get player movement and a competitive list within an equalisation driven draft and trading model.

From a constitutional standpoint, you could have a rule that each mainland state (or state above X population number) should have a minimum representation of 2 teams in the AFL to a maximum of 4/6 (depending on whether you want a 12 or 14 team model).

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

They’re competitionS, not a competition.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Don’t discourage him Paul, the chuckles from his wacked-out logic are worth the price of admission.

I mean yeah Qld and NSW are never going to work…other than when teams from Qld or NSW play in 4 GF’s in a row and win 3 of them, regularly attracting 35k+ hometown crowds in the process or perhaps play in finals 19 times across the past 22 years, including 6 GF’s 2 cups and averaging crowds in excess of 30k in 11 of those years (incl 1 of 40k+).

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

What you could do is just start a secondary competition, with teams from around Australia (you could include reserves teams from the WA & SA teams in there too), while you take 4-6 of the lowest placed AFL Vic teams from the previous year and stick them in. The Vic teams then play for promotion/relegation between the second tier competition and the first.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

They could run out in jumpers with real gold inlays and train on the acreage of a willing supporters mansion lawn, utilising their private gym facilities as well. Rah rah the Grovers!

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Good post for the most part.

On the geographical imbalance of teams in Melbourne, it’s not really healthy for a national competition for this to remain in place over the long term. Any decentralisation would certainly need to be handled carefully and with plenty of thought, but it would allow more oxygen to other areas to help the game grow.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

What a third team would need to do is be associated with an area that people identify with and could develop a parochialism for.

Fremantle has that. WC is a more generic brand that has wide appeal and was set up that way to be a WA team. They would be highly resistant to any third team from WA as it would eat into their supporter base.

WC prevented a team from Fremantle coming into the competition for as long as they could. When they could no longer prevent it, they set about watering down their Fremantleness as much as they could through their flunkies at the WAFC. I’d imagine they would do that for any new team from WA.

Joondalup would make the most sense for a third WA team. Rural/semi-rural areas don’t have the population density to make it viable at this stage (Geraldton, Bunbury and Kalgoorlie are all too small you’d think) while placing another team in the south of Perth would be oversaturation.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Armadale.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

The idea is to persevere with the Suns as it’s a valuable exercise for the AFL and the reasons for doing mean you push through “setbacks”. I think any new market they try to push into will be faced many challenges and setbacks of a similar nature the Suns face.

If the AFL were to commit to establishing a Tassie based team, then the primary reason for doing that isn’t to create a new market, but rather shift into a market where there’s better value for them (assuming it’s at the cost of another team as there’s not the capacity for additional teams in the AFL). So the logical step is to take a team from the most saturated market area to do that.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

Although it’d be more prudent to run those numbers over something like a 5/10 year period at least and see what sort of trends might be there.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

The northern suburbs (Joondalup-Wanneroo) would have probably the strongest case for a new team. Good size population, plenty of ongoing growth in terms of young families and new migrants, varied mix of socio-economic groups and all within a lower cost urban environment.

More semi-rural places like Mandurah don’t have the same advantages, while the outer south-eastern suburbs are getting more socio-economic variety, it’s still more of a struggling area in terms of available income.

Any closer in that southern area and you’d likely have too big an imbalance of supporter loyalties and cannibalisation as you allude to.

AFL expansion - time to make it fully national

Strictly speaking a Tassie side, in terms of expansion, would be doing different things than the Suns or GWS. Tassie isn’t an Aussie Rules frontier as it were.

If a Tassie side were to come in on dead man’s boots, it makes the most sense for it to be as a replacement/merger of/with one of the crowded Vic-market sides.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

All the beard pulling on the Suns served up in a big hyperbole bordering on hysteria is pretty funny, if not expected.

It’s a hard business starting up in an elite sporting competition like the AFL. That sort of acid test isn’t for the faint-hearted. You certainly won’t succeed anywhere if after a few knocks and bruises you pull up stumps and run for the comfort zone flailing your arms in the air.

It takes persistence.

Unfortunately, the AFL didn’t extend Gold Coast the same level of developmental aids they did the Giants. So they’re more susceptible to raiding and have less room to manoeuvre their list management in a difficult environment of an elite competition.

Of course, there are plenty of people without the same taste for the battle, who are less committed or just feel more comfortable with the naysayer option who’ll try and white-ant the process.

It’ll be a waste of all their investments there (people’s efforts and money) if the AFL doesn’t stick fat with the Suns on the Gold Coast for the foreseeable future.

Sunrise or Sunset? The Gold Coast ultimatum

Well, I certainly think you’ve constructed a turd sandwich there.

Although my post was only about that game not about Freo per se, nevertheless, a list is only as good as the team it puts out on the park and last year Freo’s results (up and down-ness included) are consistent with the other teams fitting within their age bracket.

The top 20 best and worst games of the 2018 season

Hahaha, more saltiness under a different guise.

The top 20 best and worst games of the 2018 season