Never mind sixes and sevens, the whole nine yard is ridiculously bare

By Brett McKay / Expert

The inevitable flow-on from highlighting concerns about a certain position is that you start wondering about other positions.

And after putting down the concerns yesterday about Australia’s openside depth post-Liam Gill and in the absence of David Pocock, another position is even more concerning.

With the departures of Will Genia after the Rugby World Cup and Nic White just prior to the tournament, to Stade Français and Montpellier, respectively, the Wallabies lost two of its three best scrumhalves of the last few seasons.

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Between Genia and White, their 88 combined Tests more than double Nick Phipps’ international experience.

Genia, of course, is now eligible via his 66 Tests to remain in contention for Wallabies selection. The big question remains just when Wallabies coach Michael Cheika will play the overseas eligibility cards in 2016, if indeed he plays them at all.

And it won’t be an easy decision.

It will probably come down to a decision of whether development has a higher or lower priority in 2016 than winning the Bledisloe Cup and the Rugby Championship.

Obviously, the Cook Cup series against England in June is part of the thinking as well, but I have extreme doubts that that series would be sit above the aforementioned key southern hemisphere competitions.

There’s no doubt that winning silverware is important, particularly silverware that hasn’t been held in Australian hands for more than a decade. And considering the magnitude of departures over the ditch, 2016 represents Australia’s best Bledisloe shot in some time.

If that tops Cheika’s priorities, and therefore requires the best possible team available to him, I couldn’t argue the point. I’m sick of the Wallabies losing the series every year too, don’t worry.

Besides that, pulling the overseas-based players back for just a fortnight or so for the back-to-back Sydney and Wellington Bledisloe matches in August – and not the Cook Cup, or the Afro-Argentinean legs of the Rugby Championship – would almost certainly keep the ARU on good terms with the European clubs in question.

(And don’t think that won’t be a consideration, an ace kept up the sleeve for when the Wallabies might need the players for a full international season, if you will.)

But if we take Genia out of the equation for the time being, it’s pretty easy to recognise how dire the state of Australian scrumhalves is in 2016.

Think about this: if Nick Phipps was hit by a bus the week before the first Bledisloe Test, who are Australia’s next two or three scrumhalves?

(Yes, I know, Will Genia would quite likely be one in that extreme example. But go with it anyway…)

The sum total of international experience for every other Australian-based No.9 is… zero Tests. Not even an international tour game.

The first two that come to mind immediately are Nic Stirzaker from the Melbourne Rebels and Nick Frisby from the Queensland Reds. But with 23 and 26 Super Rugby caps respectively, they’re not exactly brimming with experience.

Stirzaker was seen by many as a World Cup option in 2015, and if he had even just one more season of professional rugby under his belt, he may well have been the ‘next in line’. He’s a clever player and already a leader of men on the field, but he doesn’t have much of a kicking game and his pass is certainly not faultless.

Similarly, Frisby seems ready to take the next step to become a regular starter for the Reds in 2016 after two strong years in the National Rugby Championship, and as Genia’s understudy for much longer than that again.

Either, or indeed both, if that bus strikes, could find themselves playing a Test match in a little over three months.

How confident are you feeling now?

But what if injury should strike either of those two? Stirzaker didn’t play in the NRC last year after having shoulder surgery, and Frisby found himself out of action in 2014 with a broken jaw. Injuries don’t often discriminate.

Trying to identify the next in line becomes an altogether tougher task.

The Western Force’s Ian Prior played in the Reds’ 2011 championship win and certainly has the experience, but even with five Super Rugby seasons under his belt, he’ll be doing well to keep Ryan Louwrens at bay. And that’s just to sit on the bench behind Alby Mathewson.

Ben Meehan sits behind Stirzaker in Melbourne, but has just seven games to his name in two seasons. Michael Dowsett has been in a similar situation behind White at the Brumbies over the same period, but frankly, I’ll be surprised if he’s still in front of Joe Powell as Tomas Cubelli’s second banana by April.

Matt Lucas has re-joined the Waratahs after a stint in Italy – and has Australian Sevens experience, actually, thinking of my international background question above – but he’d be excused for taking a little time to find his timing in Super Rugby again.

And that just leaves young James Tuttle in Queensland, who certainly plays beyond his years, and who captained Queensland Country in last season’s NRC at just 19 (and with a certain Radike Samo in his team). But his Super Rugby experience thus far is limited to a mercy dash to South Africa last year as injury cover.

Taking all that in, it’s a genuinely scary thought just how thin on the ground the scrumhalf options are.

It’s a thought that might even necessitate that development at international level is put on hold until development at Super Rugby level can carry on in 2016, or in some cases, start.

And it’s a thought that maybe even makes Cheika’s mind up for him, and ensures that Genia spends a couple of months at home during the international season.

Good thing Stade Français have three other scrumhalves in their squad…

The Crowd Says:

2016-02-15T06:28:44+00:00

WQ

Guest


And a fantastic young bloke to go with it Diggercane

2016-02-14T14:27:24+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


AAC, Kepu, Genia (out for the season injured anyway), Horwill can still be selected.

2016-02-13T22:14:26+00:00

stillmissit

Roar Guru


Brett - we have never been flush with player stocks and my constant gripe is that we don't seem able to ID talent and take a chance on our judgement. The RWC requires experience and I understand that BUT Chieka should have taken Stirzaker to the cup if he was aware he was to lose Genia and White. I have never been a fan of Nick Phipps as I don't think he has enough rugby smarts for a half-back. Now we are forced into finding out if any of them can step up, as we don't have any decent talent spotters we can rely on.

2016-02-12T15:38:02+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Wishful thinking. Australia to finish last in the RC and loss 3-0 in the Bledisloe.

2016-02-12T15:36:10+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Not on defence.

2016-02-12T15:21:15+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Whereas Australia havnt lost anyone. Oh wait...

2016-02-12T15:10:27+00:00

Not Bothered

Guest


Huge potential. This is another one of those rubbish suggestions that NZ doesnt have a position covered. Webber, Smith, Perenara, Pulu, TKB!? Every nation on earth would swap for that including SA because every other nation doesnt have that depth and SAs depth is aging unlike NZs. Oh no, NZ has the best depth in the world, I bet theyre worried! TJ isnt massively important imo and NZ wont be wrapping him in cotton wool.

2016-02-12T11:35:24+00:00

Shane D

Roar Rookie


The cupboards not bare Akari but the top shelf looks pretty dusty.

2016-02-12T11:02:04+00:00

winston

Guest


I saying that Smith is the best half back we've has since...... ever?

2016-02-12T10:04:46+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


yup. Alby played for ABs 5-6 years go. 4 Caps

2016-02-12T08:46:49+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


No, pretty sure he has 2-3 caps.

2016-02-12T08:45:49+00:00

RobC

Roar Guru


Gday ethan. Frisby I believe was the standout scrummie in NRC 15. I think he was one of the standout players of any category there also. I think he's ahead of the Perth and Canberra local scrummies. They are pretty good as well. In particular like Lourwens, due to his S&C and core skills. SR, Frisby will only look good if his forwards do a decent job, and is kept at 9.

2016-02-12T07:41:12+00:00

Alec Mudie

Guest


Wouldn't Alby Mathewson qualify? You couldn't go too far wrong with him. Just a thought

2016-02-12T07:35:42+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


The headlines keep getting better and better. ?

2016-02-12T07:35:00+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


He does look a star. Plenty of promising talent to work with.

2016-02-12T06:45:22+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


Ahhh, no they don't all sign contracts with the ARU. They are all registered with the ARU as players same as an OS player plying their trade over here. The ARU has a group of "Nationally Contracted Players" who are contracted to the ARU and paid top ups. They are also the only players the ARU negotiates with directly. Most SR players are defined as "Non Nationally Contracted Players" who are contracted to a SR side but not to the ARU. When it is reported that a player has an ARU contract it means they are a Nationally Contracted Player.

2016-02-12T06:42:21+00:00

ethan

Guest


To be honest, based on what I've seen I'd take Prior, Louwrens, and Powell ahead of Frisby. I'm happy to be proven wrong this year, but so far in SR Frisby has only shown his talent in flashes and been very inconsistent. This is exactly what I'm saying. Because he gets first crack at the Reds starting jumper it's like people are saying they are 'comfortable' with him by default. I'd trust Prior, Louwrens, Powell and even Gordon and Lucas just as much as I'd trust say, Bryn Hall and Mitch Drummond from the Blues and Crusaders, but instead they'll hardly get a look in. Matthewson was understandably brought into the Force at a time when they had no depth but that time has passed now. And Cubelli is certainly better than Dowsett and Powell but he's far better than Nick White as well, which makes him a kind of luxury item. If White was still there he'd be on the bench. I don't blame the Brumbies signing him from a competition POV, he's a great signing and I wish him well. But it is hurting our player development and limiting our WB options.

2016-02-12T05:34:32+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


Don - Everyone signs with the ARU. That does not mean he gets a top up.

2016-02-12T04:51:43+00:00

Don

Roar Rookie


He has an ARU contract. He signed with both the Tahs and the ARU as has been reported pretty widely. Fox sports; "The new Waratahs coach offered Palu the chance to add to his 121 Super Rugby caps and mentor the new generation — an opportunity that became a no-brainer. Now, after signing a one-year contract with the Waratahs and the ARU, his Test career may yet end on a happier note too." Again; How much is the ARU component worth and was that how he was secured at the Tahs for $50K and thus fits in the salary cap? No tin foil hat stuff. Legitimate queries.

2016-02-12T04:43:13+00:00

WQ

Guest


There's a young bloke at the Turbo's by the name of Sam Malcolm that could easily convert to an excellent 9 as well. He is currently waiting behind Otere Black as a 10 for the Turbo's but would make a very good 9. Has an excellent pass, tackles like a loose forward and has a superb boot, particularly good Goal kicker. Was on injury stand-bye for a trip to Italy with the Under 20's both as cover for 9 and 10.

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