NRL 2016 ladder countdown: South Sydney Rabbitohs (12th)

By Keith Sheldon / Roar Guru

Oh how the mighty have fallen. The South Sydney Rabbitohs went from ‘forgetting how to lose’ to ‘forgetting how to not implode’ in the space of a premiership season.

They won the nines, then went on an impressive early streak that really made people wonder if they could go back to back. George Burgess was in amazing form, Glenn Stewart was back to his 2011 best, the halves were maintaining their form from 2014 and the backs were firing.

Then they suffered some injuries to key personal like Stewart and Adam Reynolds, so then they suffered a little on the field which was expected. Then most of their injured players came back, and the Rabbitohs responded by, well, playing worse. It was incredible to watch honestly.

Their implosion towards the end of last season was heartbreaking for Souths fans, but amusing for non-Souths fans considering how hyped up they were at the start of the season. They just looked completely lost at the back end of the year apart from one game against the Cowboys.

They were a top four candidate, then they proceeded to lose four of their last five regular season games and limped into seventh. They were then eliminated week one of the finals after a pitiful display against Cronulla.

Greg Inglis looked buggered, Stewart was struggling, the halves weren’t clicking, and the Burgess brothers had stepped down a notch.

There were a lot of explanations from people for this lack of form, with niggling player injuries and player disharmony being the two most prominent theories. In truth it was probably a combination of the two, which is very worrying for Souths fans, given what player disharmony did to Manly in 2014 and 2015.

However, over the off-season there was a lot of changes to the Rabbitohs, with the highlight being the return of the prodigal son, Sam Burgess. His return to the club will coincide with the arrival of Damien Cook, Michael Oldfield and Hymel Hunt.

However the Souths have lost a lot of quality players, namely Issac Luke, Glenn Stewart, Chris McQueen, Tim Grant and Dylan Walker. These transfers mean that the Rabbitohs will field a very different squad next year.

But, will the changes that were made have a positive effect on the side, or will they continue the form they showed last year and keep sliding down the ladder? Well, let’s find out, starting with a look at their first choice side.

1. Greg Inglis
2. Alex Johnston
3. Bryson Goodwin
4. Kirisome Auva’a
5. Aaron Gray
6. Luke Keary
7. Alex Reynolds
8. George Burgess
9. Cameron McInnes
10. David Tyrell
11. Chris Grevsmuhl
12. John Sutton
13. Sam Burgess
14. Damien Cook
15. Tom Burgess
16. Jason Clark
17. Kyle Turner

Strengths
The Burgess brothers are very good players, and make up most of the middle forwards for South Sydney. George Burgess is a great player and for the first half of last year was one of the competition’s premier forwards.

He really looked like he was picking up where his brother left off. However, while his intensity plummeted halfway through last year (in fact most South’s players did) I think that now that his brother Sam is there his intensity will keep up for a whole season.

I would write about Tom Burgess too, but it would literally be the same as George’s write up.

Then we get to Sam Burgess, who before the 2014 season was a very good forward but during 2014 was the best forward I have ever seen play the game. Forget what I said about Aaron Woods being the best forward in the game, Sam Burgess is better – based on his 2014 form anyway.

If he can find a way to repeat that form then this will be one of the better prop rotations, since they can all play a fair amount of minutes and the remaining props for South Sydney are decent first graders that do their jobs.

I should add that I do not think Sam Burgess will come back and play as well as he did in 2014. I think that he was just desperate to get a premiership before he left to Union, and now he will lack that drive that put him in such amazing form, but he will still be a great forward.

Alex Johnston is one of the best wingers in the comp, he is just an incredible finisher and blindingly quick. He might be a fairly substandard player when playing fullback but there is a reason he has a borderline ridiculous try scoring rate of approximately .88 tries a game.

A lot of those tries may have been handed to him on a Greg Inglis shaped platter, but there were enough of them where he demonstrated enough great footwork and speed to really make him look talented.

Kirisome Auva’a is also a very good young player. He provides the side with some real mongrel, which the Rabbitohs missed dearly during his suspension last year.

Adam Reynolds and Luke Keary are one of the best young half combinations in the game. Reynolds may have had a disappointing 2015 due to injuries, while Keary had a disappointing 2015 due to poor form but they both showed enough to demonstrate that yes, they are certainly talented.

If Adam Reynolds can remain uninjured he needs to be the NSW halfback come State of Origin time. His kicking game is the best in the entire league, and his passing game is pretty top notch too. He is just a great organiser that I think NSW will need if they want to be a threat to that Queensland team this year.

Damien Cook is a great dummy half, and I think really should be picked ahead of McInnes, with McInnes not even featuring in the squad. But unfortunately I know that isn’t going to happen. Cook was one of the form players of the comp at the Bulldogs, and I am shocked that Des didn’t tell Michael Lichaa to leave instead of Cook. He is just so fast and such a dangerous dummy half runner that sides will always have to be on the lookout for him.

Chris Grevsmuhl was one of the most consistent players for the Rabbitohs in 2015 and I am sure that there are many in redfern that are upset that he has already signed with Penrith. This kid will be a Queensland representative player in a few years.

Fortunately for South Sydney, they have a lot of talent in the second row coming up the ranks. One player in particular is Angus Crichton, who impressed the hell out of me in the 2015 Auckland Nines and other times I have witnessed him perform. He will probably crack the first grade side sometime this year.

Weaknesses
Oh boy, am I going to upset a few people in this section, if I hadn’t already by putting South Sydney so low.

Greg Inglis is a liability for South Sydney. That’s right, I know what I am saying. Now you could say that Greg Inglis is one of the best players in the game when he is on song and trying and I would agree with you there.

However, he is never on song consistently and seems to be carrying a lot of injuries now. There is a reason Melbourne picked Slater, Cronk and Smith over Inglis back in 2010.

Greg Inglis is a guy who seems to have great starts to the year, then once State of Origin finishes he just drops off of the face of the planet and never tries again. This has never been more obvious than it was last year, where after a very impressive State of Origin Game 3 performance he started lazily walking around in his kick returns and just became a complete non-factor.

This happened in the All Stars match as well, he started off on fire, and then by then end of the game when it was on the line he was lazily returning kicks and just looking like he just couldn’t be bothered anymore.

He is just too inconsistent for the huge amount of money he is on. Add to that the constant reports he wants to join the Broncos and I can’t see him being worth his pay. This side will be better off when he is gone, so they can use his cap space for someone consistent.

John Sutton also needs to go as soon as possible. His form plummeted last year and his performance in the charity shield was far from impressive. He just doesn’t run hard enough, tackle well enough or have the ball playing skills he needs to be a first grader anymore. He might be a South Sydney legend, but he needs to be dropped like the Raiders axed Terry Campese.

Michael Maguire may be a premiership winning coach who has a very good win/loss record and has yet to miss the finals in his career. However with constant reports and rumours of player disharmony partly due to him demanding far too much from his players and the rumour that the loss of Issac Luke was due to his poor relationship with Maguire I think he needs to go.

If you lose the dressing room you are done as a coach and that is what I think he has done. I am not saying he should stop coaching, but it would be best not only for him but for the Rabbitohs as well if he moved clubs and focused more on his relationship with the players.

Speaking of infighting, I don’t think I have ever seen a more dysfunctional-sounding club. Maybe late 2014 Manly, but that is about it. It seems that every few weeks there is another story.

From Maguire losing the dressing room, to Adam Reynolds requesting a release, to the players being annoyed that Chris McQueen was pushed out of the squad to fit Sam Burgess and finally the recent Russell Crowe and Luke Keary argument. From what I can gather, both of the young halves want to leave. Proof of that is the urgency of the Rabbitohs re-signing Cody Walker and their desperate chase of Cooper Cronk.

It seems that player harmony in the club is in complete shambles and I wouldn’t be surprised to see a mass exodus of players in the near future. I can already tell a lot of Rabbitohs fans will say that these rumours are false, but I cannot believe that. With the shear amount that are coming out, some of them have to be true.

But now it is time to talk about the general quality of the Rabbitohs squad. Is it better than it was last year? No it isn’t. They lost an Australian representative centre, one of the best dummy halves in the game, a former Clive Churchill medallist and a former State of Origin representative backrower, and they have only really gained Damien Cook and Sam Burgess.

I think people really are overrating the Sam Burgess signing. It is like some people think he is literally the sole reason Souths won the 2014 premiership, which is wrong. Sam Burgess may have been in excellent form that year, but so were Issac Luke, Dylan Walker, John Sutton, Adam Reynolds, Greg Inglis and Luke Keary.

Now Luke and Walker are gone, Reynolds and Keary both reportedly want out, Inglis is inconsistent and basically limping at this point, and Sutton’s form has plummeted. While I don’t think Sam Burgess will come back as good as he did in 2014, even if he does return at that form the team won’t play better.

Damien Cook may be good but he can’t replace the game’s second best dummy half, while Dylan Walker leaving takes a lot of potency out of the backline since he has no replacement. The squad is just too weak.

Expectations
We saw infighting destroy Manly in late 2014 and look what happened to them in 2015. Now the Rabbitohs are staring down a worryingly similar barrel. They collapsed last year and now their team looks weaker and reports of fights within the club are cropping up everywhere.

Thing is, if they can ignore the fighting I could see them make the eight. I could see the predicted 13th place Dragons making the eight, so I can definitely see South Sydney also making the eight.

But with the logjam of teams that will dominate most of the ladder in 2016 there is just too much negative about the Rabbitohs to put them any higher. I predict the infighting and weakened squad will cost the Rabbitohs dearly and that will mean they finish the year in 12th, just outside of the bottom four.

Conclusion
In the salary cap era if a side wins a premiership their roster will be ripped apart in the following few years. The Rabbitohs have been no exception to the rule, in fact it might still be occurring to them and wouldn’t be surprised if there are a few radical roster changes over the next year or so.

Unless things turn around at the Redfern club, I can’t see another premiership anytime soon. This team has forgotten how to be a premiership threat.

The Crowd Says:

2016-03-01T05:19:04+00:00

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Guest


Yes, I think Luke Keary will re-sign, he does look happy at training and his attitude seems good. So will Reynolds Clark will re-sign also. Jack Gosiewski who was signed up for this season, penned a new two-year upgrade only yesterday till the end of 2018. Cody Walker and Paul Carter are in negotiations for 2017 and beyond. I haven't heard anything on youngster Nathan Brown for 2017 but he will play against the Roosters in Round 1.

AUTHOR

2016-02-28T07:27:40+00:00

Keith Sheldon

Roar Guru


So.............. you still confident in Keary re-signing?

2016-02-23T00:35:48+00:00

Ginger Meggs

Guest


The statement about the shear amount of rumours is spot on. I think that the rookie expert has had the wool pulled over his eyes by the gronky old scribblers at the Telly, dreaming up a whopper a week to get them through the off season. Not short of cojones though, writing off Inglis and Burgess in one article. I think he might have to switch to being a rookie expert on the soccer next year.

2016-02-21T23:32:56+00:00

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Guest


Well, Joynton Smith, you're 100% WRONG. 1) THIS IS CRAP MATE, your comment "The Rabbits sold the leagues club and all its assets to get the 2014 premiership but have nothing left to sell to get the next one"??? Souths on Chalmers is a separate entity from the South Sydney Football Club, In 2008, the Rabbitohs employed Trivest to refurbish the Leagues CLUB but they went into liquidation in March 2013, a year and a half before the Premiership Victory. The premises was sold to the Salvation Army! A FAIL on your part. 2) There is NO Disharmony in the FRONT OFFICE and/or the Playing group, "as you say" These are lies made up by NEWS CORuption Journos because Crowe kicked them out of the Souths dressing SHEDS and banned them from last year in JULY. FACTS: 3) AND THIS BEUTY? "Of course, Lee was James Packer’s man when he bought 37.5% share of the Rabbits from Holmes a Court" James Packer bought the shares off Holmes a Court, well before Lee was ever involved with Souths and the only relationship Packer had with Lee was that Lee was theJ Chief executive of Tourism and Transport within the NSW Government. The deal was done in October 2012 WELL BEFORE PACKER was even involved with Souths. James Packer has ZERO control at Souths, he is a stockholder but NOT in the Management team. THERE is only 1 BLUECHIP share and it is owned by the "Member Company" set up by Nick Pappas, YOU must be a Jealous RORTERS FAN, Joynton Smith

2016-02-21T23:02:04+00:00

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Guest


Joynton Smith This is a real whopper of a LIE! 4) On top of all this, the Heffron Park venture fell through after Marcellin Randwick, which has a lease on the property, refused to deal with the Rabbits. FIRST OF ALL, a School does NOT have a lease on any PUBLIC playing fields, They pay a hiring fee, I know this as facts as I hire playing fields in my own capacity as a Secretary of a local Junior Cricket Club! 5) AND THIS ONE??? That’s why the venture has been pushed to the other side of the park. YOU HAVE NO IDEA MATE. Yes, it is now on the other side of the park, It is NOW closer to the actual School Premises now, so the kids will save time in getting there. AS agreed by the School, the local Council and the Rabbitohs. 6) How did you come up with this one, cupcakes Richo? Do I sense a bit of Jealousy? YOU are so wide of the MARK Joynton Smith, that NOT ONE of your points is correct! YOU MUST be a Silverspoon Rorters fan! That is the only conclusion I can make.

2016-02-21T04:40:01+00:00

Joynton Smith

Guest


The Rabbits sold the leagues club and all its assets to get the 2014 premiership, but have nothing left to sell to get the next one. The article mentions the disharmony among the playing group, yet nothing about the strife in the front office. John Lee only stayed less than one year before club-hopping to the Roosters. Of course, Lee was James Packer's man when he bought 37.5% share of the Rabbits from Holmes a Court. Lee's departure might also mean that Packer is unhappy with his investment and who's forgetting that Packer has always been a Rooster Rooster man himself. On top of all this, the Heffron Park venture fell through after Marcellin Randwick, which has a lease on the property, refused to deal with the Rabbits. That's why the venture has been pushed to the other side of the park and the funding is doubtful. Not looking good at Redfern, especially with cupcakes Richo back..

2016-02-21T03:49:55+00:00

Diplomatt

Guest


Lost me at "...Aaron Woods best forward in the game" ?

2016-02-21T01:24:26+00:00

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Guest


Is that all you got? MATE! For a bloke who is putting down a club who is heritage listed as a National tresure, the only sporting club in our country who is. PLUS you are putting dosn one of the finest ever player, who will eventually be inducted as an immortal. KEITH. You have NOTHING.

AUTHOR

2016-02-21T00:21:31+00:00

Keith Sheldon

Roar Guru


Those are a lot of words you are putting in my mouth there, but whatever.

2016-02-20T21:56:17+00:00

3 Hats

Guest


Well, Keith, you say this so-called disharmony will lead to a mass exodus of players? Since this CRAP started in July: 15 players have Re-signed: George Burgess, Tom Burgess, Kirisome Auva'a, Kyle Turner, Bryson Goodwin, David Tyrrell, Aaron Gray plus youngsters Jack Gosiewski, Cheyne Whitelaw, Zane Musgrove, Angus Crichton, Brock Gray, Tom Hughes, Ed Murphy and Cameron Murray. PLUS NEW signings, Sam Burgess, Damien Cook, Michael Oldfield, Hymel Hunt, Dane Nielson and Riley Travers That is a TOTAL of 21 players. Keith, do you honestly think these players would have signed if there was any disharmony amongst the playing group? NO, I don't think so! The players off contract for 2017 are Nathan Brown, Paul Carter, Jason Clark, Luke Keary and Cody Walker. I will bet ALL these guys will re-sign unless a massive offer is on the table from another club.

2016-02-20T21:33:53+00:00

Chris Morrison

Guest


Nice one Keithy! According to you, Souths Sydney should drop one of the top players that has ever played the game in Inglis. Reynolds and Keary (premiership winning halves) cripple the team and should be replaced by a man about to retire and then would ice the cake with getting rid of the coach who has never failed to reach the finals. Al I can say is, you should stick to your fantasy journalism. God forbid if you were ever involved in a club.

2016-02-20T19:32:57+00:00

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Guest


Are so it is only payback from a silver spoon Manly fan? Hey, Keith! Souths will be around 4th to 6th, NOT BLOODY 12th? NEWS CORRuption Journos have been having a dig at Souths Since Maguire locked them out of the Souths SHEDS. last July. Then all of this disharmony crap started FOR your info KEITH, it was your PAL Glenn Stewart doing all of the complainings last year. The reason was because Souths train too hard for him. WOW Stewart wanted to do his own training as he has done at Manly for years. Madge told him to harden up, Stewart didn't like it so Madge told him to leave. Stewart is as soft as Butter! These are the undisputed FACTS! By the way, I didn't believe all of the Manly so-called infighting CRAP in the papers last year either!

2016-02-20T17:27:00+00:00

Concerned Observer

Guest


Thank you Keith, someone had to say it. Sam Burgess won't be playing to that level again. Too much has changed to the game since his last game. South's whole schtick of just beat them To death with big forwards was shown to be flawed when they tried to field a pack without Sam B, Ben Teo, a declining Chris McQueen, a Glenn Stewart who was just counting down the games and a rake who really didn't want to be there. Him returning is not a case of the prodigal son but a smart move to shore up a floundering forward pack. What wasn't smart was losing the first choice hooker for the number one ranked international test team. It's ridiculous to say that losing Issac Luke is not that bad because they've got Damien Cook now. He's played 9 games in first grade, he's good but not "fill the shoes left by the second best hooker in the world" good. Luke spent 9 years at Souths, if he wasn't a senior player there I'll eat my hat. It's strange that luke was so happy to go to the warriors and how seeminly little effort souths made to keep him. Usually it's the club trying to push a senior player away. That tells me all isn't well with Souths. A player that wants to leave like that after so long is usually because they hate the coach and the coach hates them. Coaching 101: keep the senior players on your side. You don't have to like them, you don't have to cater to their every whim, you maintain a professional working relationship and make it clear you value and respect their input and role within the dynamics of the players. If you lose the senior player you rapidly lose the cadre of junior players who look up to them. It goes downhill from there. One only needs to briefly glance at the Tigers to learn more than they'll ever need about what happens when the coach loses the senior player (I am of course talking about the somewhat terse relationship between Jason Taylor and Pat Richards during the last season). Surely Souths fans, is it not so hard to imagine that if Madge had lost one senior player in Luke then maybe a few others are chafing under him as well? It certainly doesn't help when the teams idea of a bonding session is a sweaty sauna with rusty with some verbal abuse on the side.

2016-02-20T15:46:26+00:00

peeeko

Guest


keith, phil rothfield just celebrated 40 years in journalism. you would be a superb successor

2016-02-20T11:21:57+00:00

Mr.Media

Roar Rookie


More boring games on the way ...

2016-02-20T10:59:27+00:00

Penrith Punter

Roar Guru


Love your honesty and tend to agree about Inglis he very much has on and off games. Souths should well be in the race for the eight like most teams, but it will be such a competitive year and I also have them missing the eight.

2016-02-20T10:36:36+00:00

no one in particular

Roar Guru


I'll give you a tip about rumours that circulate in the media - most are a pile of crap spread by a journalist with a fragile ego or with an agenda (see Rothfield, Phil) or a player manager feeding a reporter. For example, all the talk about a player revolt and a club revolt that was spoken about day after day miracously disappeared when Fox Sports signed their new NRL deal. Maguire probably told Rothfield or Ritchie were to stick it one day, or upset Weidler because he stood by Ben Teo in their little fued Maguire is a premiership winnig coach. He will have the support of the owners ahead of all players, if not, one or two

2016-02-20T09:45:35+00:00

Ben

Guest


But Souths aren't chasing Cronk but if you have gone "above and beyond" it would be easy to see the Fox Sports article where Maguire denies ever approaching Cronk and questioning why Reynolds would be replaced Also I'll comment about your "Strengths" section and say that Johnston hasn't been served up all his tries through Inglis, does that mean Semi Radrandra has had all his tries set up by Sandow and Norman?

AUTHOR

2016-02-20T09:27:36+00:00

Keith Sheldon

Roar Guru


You know what is funny, I have yet to receive a comment complaining about anything I have put in the 'Strengths' section of any of my articles. It is quite funny how I seem to only screw up at the 'Weakness' section hey, seems like........ people who have commented so far are the real biased ones, including you. Souths fans keep shouting at me about how I shouldn't believe the constant stream of reports from the media and how I am wrong, but you are the same people that ate up the infighting at Manly stories last year. You are the same people that believe everything you read about the Parramatta salary cap situation. But now that it is happening to your club, it must all be faked. Get real, there isn't a conspiracy against you or anyone else, and with the amount of similar stuff that has been published about your side some of it must be true. Mate, I am a Manly fan and have been since 2003 and there is no way I would ever want that great hunk of laziness known as Greg Inglis in my side. I will take Brett Stewart and Tom Trbojevic over him thanks. Greg Inglis literally only fires before Origin and afterwards he stops caring. He just doesn't have the passion that other players do and it happens year after year. He may light up for a game or two in the finals, but for the most part he stops trying in the second half of the year. When the Rabbitohs are struggling at the back end of the year, the egg will be on your nose.

AUTHOR

2016-02-20T09:18:36+00:00

Keith Sheldon

Roar Guru


First of all, it is Adam on my word document so I don't know what happened there. Secondly, if they really weren't searching for a replacement on Keary or Reynolds, why are they chasing Cooper Cronk and why are they so desperate to re-sign Cody Walker? I did my research, I went above and beyond for a lot of this stuff.

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