Heartbreak for Sydney as Roar strike late

Spanish not French!

I didn't know it was already in use in Middle English - it could have come directly from latin, which no doubt would be pretty similar. I've never actually studied latin, but I suspect the latin would have used "que" instead of "che", which represents a more modern construction.

Hi jb; don't get too bent out of shape, all your points are valid and I think I've made my position clear on Roars defence - we need a dedicated defensive coach because nothing is improving at the back. Hervas was the last man that's all, as you say he shouldn't have been, it's a shame were even talking about him in this regard as he had a good game otherwise.

It was a great shot but the ball looks to go through Hervas legs on its way in to the goal. Not sure who could have stopped it but Hervas was the last man

Against jets I'd be playing him for the first hour and sending Broich on to replace him.

This debate moved on a bit since my original coment; the Theo side of the debate would have us believe that Theo's distribution is better which this season is not true, they're about the same (in terms of accuracy any way). Theo has a better range with his goal kicks though and can reach either side of the halfway line by +/- 10 meters with accuracy whereas young falls short of the halfway line by the same amount and no further. Personally both goal kicks and throw ins have become less of an "advantage" than they once were as teams put a lot of coaching effort into winning a turnover whereas it used to be a case of "marking up" there's now a real focus on pressing and forcing the error at a restart. I haven't compared stats but even glory (with a keeper with good range and height up front) have been turning the ball over at the restart.

Most Wanderers fans have pretty much accepted the season is over.

Waz- come on now you are better at diagnosis than that. If Young,who is regarded as one of the best shot stoppers in the league could not get down to ground level in time to stop that shot what chance did Hervas have for as you know he was 2-3 metres nearer the striker and therefore had less time than Young to react. By the way I did watch it again and stopped where necessary and when the ball passed Hervas he was only half turned,obviously hoping the ball was going past the post, but the ball was in the net by the time he was fully turned. Just to play the numbers game there should have been at least 7 "defenders" in the box for that stupid free kick, and Hervas was ,as you say ,the only man in front of the ball striker. Where were the other 6???? And I note you don't mention the stupidity of the free kick conceded,almost a replica of Hingert's foul the week before.Someone shopuld tell these kids you can't hope to get away with wrapping your arms round an opponent for too long,but obviously the message,if delivered,is not getting through.Never mind a win is a win. Cheers jb

Not impossible and Adelaide have a decent shout but two tough away games could equally see them in 5th place and on less points than last season. Glory to finish second would need three sides in between them and top to collectively stuff up and drop points which is a big ask and they'd need City to drop points at home to Wellington today as a starter. I still say Wanderers for the Plate based on a slightly easier run-in, we'll know come Friday if their lack of goals is a blip or something more but assuming it is just a blip there's 6 points right there, I don't see anyone else getting 48 points. It's also got implications for next seasons FFA cup as the bottom 6 sides are drawn against each other. Victory v Smurfs in the first round anyone??

jb: no surprise, but Hervas doesn't get off that lightly as he was the last defender able to get "in the way" (the most basic defence) but as previously stated - he turned his back like a Spanish schoolgirl/boy might. He wouldn't do that in a bull ring now would he???

It is a scary thought. Then if they learn how to score? Surely Wanderers or City will be trying to sign him?

You are correct MF, as the spelling was changed from the Italian "che" in 1956 by the songwriters Jay Livingstone & Ray Evans, who composed the hit song for Doris Day in the Alfred Hitchcock movie "The Man Who Knew Too Much". The songwriters borrowed the title from the 1954 Hollywood movie "The Barefoot Contessa" in which a family proclaimed the Italian "che sera sera' as their motto. The adoption of the Spanish spelling was influenced, according to the songwriters (one of whom had a passable knowledge of the Spanish language), because "There are so many Spanish-speaking people in the world.". There is much much more detail for anyone interested enough to do a Google search. The phrase Que sera sera was introduced into English history in 1559, but historians are unable to agree whether to Italian "Che" preceded the Spanish spelling some 20 years earlier, or followed some 20 years later. Interesting what comes up on a football forum.

Very big of you Puntrr. You are a loyal fan and deserve better. I must admit I was wrong on Kenny Lowe though. Even the best of us get one wrong every now and then. ;) The genuine question is whether Arnie is the man going forward? He gives the impression of someone for whom time has stood still. The top of the league is packed with teams who are attacking and positive. Looking around in England, Germany and Spain this is also case. Arnie has taken his tactics across from the CCM, conservative, negative and reactive. Small club tactics (which work at an under resources small club) at a big club. Sorry if I have said that before! His recruiting, Carney, Simon et al, experienced players shows a man playing it safe, going with what he knows. I just don't see it ending well. Apart from recruitment and tactics, as you put it, he has got it spot on :)

BES - It is nice to know that others have noticed this deficiency in Roar's play (the lack of aerial challenge) and also the lack of a true ball winner in the middle of the park where most of the action takes place. This "job" is so important in today's game and the lack of such a player can put direct pressure on the back four as is happening consistently in Roar games,with that same back four coming under almost constant criticism when this occurs. There are very few players being used regularly in Roar teams that have the necessary discipline,heart, and willingness to subjugate their own game to work at this task.Perhaps Mackay in his advancing years could be induced to take on the task and of course Jack Hingert has the heart and aggro about his play but whether he has the experience and tactical knowhow remains to be seen. Pundits keep referring to Corona as a defensive midfielder but IMO that is as far away from his playmaking role as one could get for the man is slight of build,has good perception(even when he plays a bad pass one can see wht he is trying to achieve), but a hard running,hard tackling, mid-field "grafter" is one thing he ain't. This is what modern coaching is all about ,it is not only to create a "winning" team but the constant improvement of that winning team has to be the constant behind the coach's thinking. Cheers jb

Here's hoping City get thrashed by 11 goals on Easter Monday! (That's what we need to get their goal difference down to match ours and It is a day for miracles after all.....)

This is a very real issue that we have had for a long time. There was a period there (last season?) where we had Theo landing it on Broiches head with amazing regularity, but others have pointed out with the exception of Broich, we don't have a player in the front half of our team who has any interest in heading a ball. It seems to be standard coached practise that every long goal kick is to be sat off and try to win the second ball - which from my recollection has a 100% failure rate to this point. I mean Murdocca was about the only one even going back years ago who was prepared to have a go - hilarious as that was!

lol So much for my French.

all romance languages (except for English of course), so unsurprisingly they all have something similar. Que sera sera is definitely Spanish. The Italian would be: che sarà sarà (exact same meaning, but not sure how commonly it is used in this way). The French is something very similar, closer to the Spanish on this occasion. In all cases, they are using the third person singular conjugation of the verb to be in the future tense (= will be)

Agree with you jb. I was there last night, and initially I was casting doubt on Jamie's ability in this area. But as I watched repetitions of the scenario, it became obvious that the opposition were winning practically all of Jamie's goal kicks unchallenged. There again, I observed that Jamie is lucky to hit half way with his goal kicks, so that limits him in varying the length of his kicks. Perhaps his team mates could assist by giving him a couple of leads a la Aussie Rules style.

Great goal to sink the smurfs. Here's hoping city draw on Easter Monday.