Hurricanes wary of Jaguares' tackling

Just ask Damian McKenzie how to tackle Nadolo. Without a chop tackle to his knees. Damian, the smiling one. Yep, the whole 75 kilos of him when fully dressed tackled Nadolo of 130 kilos at speed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y23SkYKU7c

I agree, completely.

Lavanini's track record of citings and suspensions throughout his career doesn't seem to have had any effect on his behaviour. Against the Blues he continued doing what he always does : cheap shots, swinging arms to the head, dropping knees and elbows on players already on the ground. His nasty no arms dive into Mayhew's legs has caused serious injury Coaches have every right to make public their concerns about violent scum like Lavanini.

Completely agree. The danger is bone on bone contact with low tackles. A swift knee to the forehead was never good, no winners there at all!

Then we will not have much to write about.

Both, and I use the same nick there also. Why don't you?

grab both legs - now that would be a legal tackle

If players don't wish to be in the spot light for the wrong reasons then those players should play fairly and responsibly.

I have no control over what is written in the Press and it is irrelevant in any case in regard to my concern over this issue. What is unfair is players being subjected to this type of dangerous tackle. I'm aware that I am repeating myself but they are not within the law. The law states “A player must not charge or knock down an opponent carrying the ball without trying to grasp that player.” But you make a fair point regards taking it to World Rugby. I suspect that they will provide clarification further down the road.

A tackle does not have to be low or high to be dangerous. It only has to be dangerous. The law states “A player must not charge or knock down an opponent carrying the ball without trying to grasp that player.”

When most of us here at the roar played we did no have to stop players like Naholo or Savea. If the catch you at full speed and you the traditional tackle you have describe you probably end up in the third raw on someone lap. The only way to stop that kind of brutal force is to dive very low and grab both legs. You must go low.

Both.

When I played I was taught to aim my shoulder just above the widest point of the quad, get the head out of the way, wrap the arms, going to ground to the side. All at the same time mind you, while going to ground with 120kg of non specific Polynesian bulk about to squish me flat if I didn't get it right....My point is: the difference between a good tackle, a brilliant tackle and a dangerous tackle as described in the article is very slim...

Interesting! I just read in one Argentine newspaper that someone using the same name as "Nobrain" claims that this is just kiwi provocation to affect the referee's judgement. Which one is it? Legal? A provocation? Or both?

That did NOT make it right either. I complained about Lavanini the entire RWC 2015, nothing new here.

I do not like the idea of placing a team or player on the spot light right before a game. Jaguars are tackling the same way the Pumas did in RWC 2007 and RWC 2015, it is amazing that nobody said anything until know .

I am sorry to disagree with you Nobrain. I cannot support your stand. Lavanini is a thug. Nothing you say will convince me otherwise. He plays on the other side of the edge of the rules. He has not been "found" yet sufficiently by the referees. I do not want a player like Lavanini in my team and if the Jaguares or Argentines think that this is just like "Bakkies" then they are looking at the wrong example. Just in the Blues game he had two instances of just nasty foul play. He got lucky in the RWC but he will be found out. And the Jaguares will pay the price. This is not "touch" rugby you say. What do you defend then, the Pucara player? Or you only attack him because he was caught? This is ridiculous. I complained before about Skelton and I mentioned that Akira Ioane is becoming one too. But, we have to get rid of these behaviors. Unless you also want many more concussions and broken knees.

Well that's a fun way to put it.

You answer your question, both, the ball carrier and the tackler know the danger they expoused themself. If you are the ball carrier you may think twice before run over a player and the tackler will think twice before going low. The type of tackling you are referring to is within the law til know, so if you condidred dangeraus go to the WR and ask them to make a new ruling about it the same way they have in the past in different areas of the game. What is unfair is to start using the press before a game to influence the ref in a particular issue. It happens with scrums when a team consider itself weaker to his next rival to start making statements that the scrum techinques from the other team are dangerous. It is crap.

Sorry, but I do not see in the rule book that tackling low is a violation of the laws. High tackles are, but not low. Until then you cannot call it a foul play.