Brumbies give Sunwolves a rugby lesson to regain the Australian Conference lead

To the objective, sane-minded, individuals here there are bigoted and insecure people who troll this forum. These people abuse this forum to spew bile against players who deserve their place in the Wallabies team ahead of their favourites, or worse still attack players who legally espouse views they hold very important to themselves but that the posters doesn’t agree with. These posters abuse the freedoms we have to attack what they fear, don’t like or simply don’t understand. The beauty is, these people don’t know that they are very much in the minority and laughed at by the vast majority of the people who visit this site.

"This is but one example while the overwhelming majority involve him donating his time and money (I dare say more than you have on both counts) on issues he believes require attention." Mate, when I was his age had committed ten years to difficult human services work, for a small fraction of what he gets for the privilege of playing a game for money. I don't begrudge him his rugby dollars but by the same token I don't think the sun shines out of his backside either. Especially when he is preaching on matters about which he knows nothing. The majority of good people make a big contribution to our society and he needs to get over himself in telling others how to make theirs.

What you say regarding Pocock’s credibility being tainted by corporate alignment could hold some weight if that were the only way he chose to express his opinion on such matters. The reality is, it’s not. This is but one example while the overwhelming majority involve him donating his time and money (I dare say more than you have on both counts) on issues he believes require attention. Of course Australian men have numerous and substantial positives. My wife might disagree, but as one myself I’m well aware and proud of this. But that doesn’t mean we should rest on our laurels and not attempt to better ourselves as a collective, especially in those areas where segments of the population are dropping the ball. No, I won’t get stuffed Boz, my advice for you though is to un-stuff your knickers from the dark crevasse they currently reside and attempt to untie that considerable knot.

Rob, I am sorry but I think that trying to address what he claims are serious social issues through an advertising campaign from which he profits, is incredibly cynical. It means that his message will be dictated by commercial considerations and it removes any pretence that he is being altruistic in addressing his concerns. As far as I am concerned that alone has destroyed his credibility and it highlights the risks of clueless footballers trying to act as social campaigners on issues which they have no idea. As for your black armband views on the men of Australia, good luck to you with that but I'm not going to participate in the self-righteous flagellation of Australian blokes that passes for social awareness these days. We have our problems, as does any group of people, but our positive contribution vastly outweighs those and for that we get no respect, only chastisement. As far as I am concerned people like you and Pocock can get stuffed and I hope that other Australian men give you the same response.

“Yeah, so what? That is the thing about the freedom to express an opinion, others are then free to disagree, which I do.” It’s not only that you disagree with Pocock’s opinion; you protest the fact that he airs it through means of corporate sponsorship and other personal forms of expression. The reality is, your bitterness towards him is based on nothing more than assumptions. “IT’S LIKE he thinks he is the white knight who is going to save Australian men...” Forget that this whole ‘Strength to care’ is a corporate campaign from a company that has simply identified Pocock as a male figure with strong personal opinions on social and environmental issues that strike a chord with him and they are paying him X amount of $ to be the face of said campaign. And he shouldn’t be entitled to black out logos from his boots (who pay him nothing) and then accept sponsorships from other companies? By the way, your ‘too corporate’ explanation of him blacking out boot logos is warped and actually a case of him protesting the way said company does business (sweat shops, child labour etc.). And then, “I GET THE FEELING that it is all commercially-driven nonsense...” More assumptions from you, but so what? Why can’t he make a buck on the side like any successful rugby player/athlete does while creating awareness of issues that are close to him. I’d also suggest that plenty of this pocket money (not to mention income from other sponsors, the Brumbies, ARU and now Panasonic) goes towards these causes. I’ll help ease your pain, BUY YOUR SOAP AND DEODERANT FROM BRUT OR REXONNA. But I’m guessing your angst towards him runs far deeper than this for whatever reason. These lines take the cake “The men I know care for their families, mates and communities, and have played an integral part in making Australia the great country that it is” and “we have our act pretty well together thank you very much young Dave”. I’m so pleased for you Boz that you mingle with such a high calibre of human but seriously man, take your blinkers off and get out of the silo you’re so clearly occupied in. If you believe there aren’t serious gaps in social standards within significant segments of the wider Australian community across a range of different issues then I, the good people here and David Pocock can’t help you bud.

If I did fancy him there would be nothing wrong with that, I just wouldn't be a girl about it and wear Dove .

You sure you don't secretly fancy him Bozboy. Sometimes the great haters actually have a little candle within... I think you do.

PS, did he manage to sell any Dove Organic Man-Go face cream to those boys at Waverley? It would be very disappointing to his employers if he failed to do so!

CP, I have considered your request but sorry, I have to deny it on this occasion. If I have to listen to David Pocock inflict his politics and mancare products on me during my sporting recreation time, I consider it only fair that fanboy's like you have to listen me whinge about it. If you want me to stop I suggest you write to him and tell him to do the same first.

I'm not making you read this, if it upsets your tender sensitivities so much go and find a safe space to hide in.

hahahahahahahahahaha Dowsett. Back to the bar Lordy!

At the game it looked like the Sunwolves actually put strong pressure at the breakdown. Not Crusaders pressure but the half had earn his pay.

Dowsett's running game was on song. But even against the Sunwolves who do not pressure the breakdown as well as other teams, his passing was erratic and his accurate passes were quite slow and floated. Looks like another Phipps or Burgess at this point. Powell's passing has bullet-like speed and precision in comparison.

Editors moderated my last comment off the page, so I'll try again. Boz, please consider taking your anti-left political rant over to the appropriate Murdoch paper comments. They all think like you over there. Your personal dislike of Pocock was not shared by the young men at Waverley College last week who were very appreciative of his mentoring. And you do not speak for all Australian men as you suggest, you only speak for you, Boz. Only you.

Mate we are sick of your anti-Pocock rant. See a therapist and stop shoving your politics down our throats, as you accuse Pocock of doing.

For anybody who wants to understand the real motivation behind Pocock's "Strength to Care" campaign. http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/canberra-life/david-pocock-the-face-of-a-new-campaign-from-beauty-company-dove-20160526-gp49ic.html

Yup, there are heaps of good role models out there apart from fathers Cynical Play, some of them even play rugby. -Scott Fardy teaches us the value of hard work and persistence with his late blooming grind from being a club rugby player to becoming a must pick spot in the Wallabies. -Bernard Foley demonstrates a focus on good basics and tremendous willingness to improve his game, which has earned him the top spot at 10 over more naturally talented competitors like Quade Cooper and Kurtley Beale. -Stephen Moore, our late starting captain, shows us genuine integrity as a man by demanding the highest standards from his team both on and off the field, and being willing to stick his neck out over the Patston/Beale fiasco 2014 and explain exactly how unfair the way that woman was treated. -Phil Kearns did pretty much the same, he was one of the first people to tell it like it is that it wasn't Ewan McKenzie on trial, even though many were carrying on like it was. It was a badly behaving player whose position was in question. -Quade Cooper and Christian Leiliifano also stuck up for Patston, letting everybody know exactly what a caring person she was to them. -Matt Toomua promotes inclusiveness by appearing on a float at Mardi Gras and has a great time doing it, with no preachiness to be heard in sending his message. -The Fainga twins spend many hours of their time on breast cancer charity work in Queensland. The list goes on. That is what being a role model is, high achieving people doing what they do without making too much of a fuss about it and yes, speaking out against something that is wrong when necessary. People notice that and copy it in a positive manner. The difference is that Pocock appears trying to build a reputation on preaching his political and personal views on what we should all be doing to all, on just about every currently trendy matter in left wing politics. I have a lot less time for that approach than I do for the way the others go about their business.

Isn't it 8 teams in the finals

Boz, young men need and look for role models outside their fathers. Didn't you? You sound like you look more to Trump as a role model these days from your comments. Good luck to you, but spare us the sermon.

I would add that Pocock could be a role model by just practicing what he preaches and doing his charity work. Shoving his political opinions down our throats at every opportunity comes across as self-aggrandisement.