Is it time for the Lions to cut Leppitsch loose?

By Josh / Expert

The Brisbane Lions are a club with some up-and-down history – they’ve had some high moments indeed, and some low ones too. Yesterday’s 83-point capitulation to the Fremantle Dockers was one of the very lowest.

To put things into a bit of perspective, two of our three expert tippers (myself being one of them) tipped the Lions to win that game. So did 44 per cent of the Roarers who entered their tips.

It was seen as a game that the Lions had a genuine opportunity to win – a home match-up against a team that, like them, had a 1-10 record. At the very least, it was a game they should have been competitive in.

Early on, it looked like things might just turn out that way too – they kicked the first three goals of the match in quick succession, and looked really switched on. It wouldn’t last.

Fremantle drew level by quarter time and then bagged nine goals to one in the second term, and they never looked back. In the end, after that three-goal burst in the opening minutes, it was 23 goals for the day to Fremantle, and just six more to the Lions.

In his press conference after the match, Brisbane’s senior coach Justin Leppitsch was asked by one reporter if he was worried about losing his job. His response wasn’t exactly cordial:

“Here we go again. Can we stop these silly questions? I’m getting a bit over it to be perfectly honest,” said Lepptisch.

“Why would you ask someone if they’re gong to keep their job?

“First of all, if you said that to someone on the street, it’s a disgusting thing to say.

“Second of all, ask someone who decides it, not me. That’s the answer to it, so stop asking me. Ask Leigh, ask Swanny.

“I’ve got a job for 18 months to do and I’m doing it. Can we finish that right now? Done. Thank you. Next question.”

So in short, the answer is: Yes. Yes, he is just a little bit worried.

I’ve not exactly kept my position regarding Leppitsch’s tenure hidden before now, in fact late last year when Jack Redden left the Brisbane Lions I called for Leppitsch to follow him out the door.

My view hasn’t really changed since then – why should it have? The Lions have done nothing this season to make me believe that Leppitsch has a future as a senior coach.

There are some reasonable arguments you could make as to why he should be kept on, of course. To start with, many would say that the significant injury toll the club has suffered particularly over the past eighteen months has prevented us from seeing what Leppitsch could do with a fit list.

However I would argue that in two and a half years even with regular injury problems, we should at least be seeing some sort of improvement on the field. The Lions’ performances aren’t those of a team with too many injuries, they’re the performances of team that’s just bad at football.

The point could also be made that the problems at Brisbane seem clearly to go deeper than merely the senior coach. And with this I wholeheartedly agree – moving on Leppitsch without really looking to fix the fundamental issues at the Lions would be an empty gesture, mere papering over the cracks.

However while I do think “fixing” the Lions requires a multi-pronged approach, finding a new senior coach – and importantly, one with no prior connections whatsoever to the club – is an essential part of that strategy.

The Lions’ last three coaches have been Leigh Matthews, the legendary coach of a triple-flag era, followed by Michael Voss, the captain in those three flags, and now Leppitsch, a player in those three flags. Matthews himself is now the deputy chairman on the board of directors.

It’s an unhealthy, incestuous situation to be in, one where personal relationships forged over memories of days long ago pose a risk to what should be a cold, unbiased decision-making process. We’ve seen it happen at clubs before and it never ends well.

Matthews just a few days ago said that Lepptisch was at no risk of losing his job and would be the Lions’ senior coach in 2017, in accordance with the contract extension he was given ahead of this season. But, Matthews also told us last year that James Aish would never be traded, so take that with a grain of salt.

What the Lions need more than anything in my view is to make a break with the past, and to embrace modernisation and the next era of their club. Bringing in a new senior coach from outside the boys club, and giving them license to shake things up a bit, is the best way to make that happen.

We saw it in 2013 when Ken Hinkley arrived at Port Adelaide and turned the AFL’s most pitied franchise into a finals side. We’re seeing it again in 2016 with the work Brendon Bolton is doing at Carlton. And we need to see it at Brisbane.

That’s my view, but what’s yours? The title of this article is, after all, a question, rather than an assertion – I’m keen to hear what you think, fellow Roarers. Is it time for the Lions to move Leppitsch on? Let me know what your call is in the comments below.

The Crowd Says:

2016-06-13T08:24:39+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Matty Leuenberger said the facilities at Brissy compared to what other AFL clubs have is the reason it is hard to get players to come...and to get them to stay.

2016-06-13T05:40:34+00:00

Andrew Prentice

Guest


At least I have found a place where this is discussed. The Qld commercial television stations and major print media are only too happy to say little about the Lions plight, due to their vested interests in Rugby League. Brisbane only started to challenge the traditional Broncos domination when they finally moved to the Gabba for their home venue. It proved that Brisbane had a strong supporter base, but only when they were genuine about being here and not on the Gold Coast. But I think it's wrong to believe the Broncos and their media supporters will just accept the Lions on their traditional turf. I guess all I'm saying is, the Lions need to produce results if they're to get back any credibility in this league-dominated town. In the last few years it's been all talk and absolutely no action. I'm not asking for the kind of "ascendancy" the Broncos have (undeservingly in my opinion), but not continuous cellar-dweller status either.

2016-06-13T03:43:24+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


See Lester and Bewick. Hard to see those getting a game at any other AFL club, and yet the club was stoked to re-sign them. Redden is no great loss, all the Weagles fans on this board seem to have realized what we saw at Brisbane for years, he's not that good a player. Mayes could have been good but has been messed around badly the last few seasons, so I wouldn't blame him if he decides to walk out.

2016-06-13T03:42:01+00:00

andyl12

Guest


Yeah, look I wasn't trying to say that an experienced coach would guarantee success. Rodney Eade certainly hasn't brought improvement to the Suns, but then nobody had forecast the cultural problems he would inherit. Maybe it is just an image thing- being able to bring a big name to the coach's chair would show people that the club is run professionally. Also, while I don't necessarily believe in the go-home factor given how many people move to SEQ on a weekly basis, players who come from far and wide are more likely to enjoy somewhere if they have the right people and culture guiding them along. Leppa should know this better than anyone, given that his early days in Brisbane saw him mentored by a premiership coach (Walls) and developed into an elite player by another one (Matthews).

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:39:43+00:00

Josh

Expert


In the aftermath, I'm questioning why I did too! Always have a lot of hope for the Lions, but they keep disappointing me.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:38:55+00:00

Josh

Expert


Having the Suns to compete with has hardly aided the Lions, but I think their problems can be largely attributed to their own poor management rather than the existence of Gold Coast.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:37:56+00:00

Josh

Expert


Would be hard to see him staying on if that does come to pass.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:36:59+00:00

Josh

Expert


The comments from the club certainly do ring pretty hollow, as they always do in this kind of situation.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:35:56+00:00

Josh

Expert


As suggested by others here, I reckon an 'experienced' coach is often more about improving the image of the club than it is about improving the club itself. It can be a good move on occasion and it could be here, that said, I would be looking more at a highly-rated assistant from a current top team.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:33:52+00:00

Josh

Expert


If motivating the players isn't the responsibility of the coach, I don't know what is.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:33:11+00:00

Josh

Expert


Cheers Jacko. I think it's time for a change and really, the more the Lions see of how recent coaching changes have lifted other sides' spirits, I think the more they will have to ask themselves if it's time.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:32:06+00:00

Josh

Expert


Could never disrespect the man himself, he was an excellent player and I've got nothing personal against him. Grew up watching that Lions team and they are legends in my book. There's no shame in not being cut out to be a senior coach. I certainly couldn't do a better job.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:30:12+00:00

Josh

Expert


Ennnh. I don't think he's anything more than an okay coach. And as said here, I think the need for outside influence is strong.

2016-06-13T03:29:54+00:00

Balthazar

Guest


Personally I question why 2 of the 3 roar experts would have picked Brisbane. Freo are repeating 2012 when it took them half a season to get their heads around a new game plan but this time doing it with most of their best players out. It was clear from the St Kilda game they were getting their act together finally. The Lions looked listless but I haven't seen enough of them to say that it was an attitude issue. Certainly they have holes in their list - they just couldn't get the ball from midfield to their forward line. Suggests to me - as someone has said above - they have too many midfielders/flankers and perhaps not enough medium sized half forwards and smaller, quick crumbing style players.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:29:25+00:00

Josh

Expert


Rich is probably one of the few I wouldn't criticise. Hasn't been in great form but has shown more than many others.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:28:23+00:00

Josh

Expert


Could be the best call, that being said I feel like a mid-season sacking might do more to give the players a bit of a wake-up. Not to mention I'd win my bet with Ryan.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:25:58+00:00

Josh

Expert


I'd say the likes of Rockliff, Zorko, Robinson and Martin are Leppa's success stories, and most of those stories finish with "but..." A lot of the younger players have gone backwards after impressing early and in no small part due to Leppa's obsession with playing people out of position - Sam Mayes on half-back, Tom Bell as a near-permanent forward being two examples.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:24:54+00:00

Josh

Expert


Agreed. Things need a shake up.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:23:05+00:00

Josh

Expert


Agree - while it's not like the Lions list is one that should be in the top four or anything, the players are clearly not reaching whatever potential they have at the moment. The atmosphere and culture at the club - the building of which imo is one of a coaches biggest responsibilities - seems to be the worst in the league.

AUTHOR

2016-06-13T03:21:19+00:00

Josh

Expert


Definitely. Not sure exactly what Leigh gets up to on a day to day basis in terms of running the club but he definitely acts as a prominent spokesperson. I've had enormous respect for the man for a very long time now, but I'm starting to have my doubts.

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