Top four spot up for grabs between Eagles and Roos

By Ronan O'Connell / Expert

Not so long ago, North Melbourne and West Coast fans both had genuine reason to believe that their teams could make this year’s grand final.

While that belief has taken a battering over the past month, it could be revived today.

The match between these sides in Perth long has shaped as pivotal to the makeup of the eight. But Greater Western Sydney’s unexpected loss to Collingwood means the winner has more to gain than expected, with a top-four spot now potentially up for grabs.

If Carlton can beat Adelaide today at the MCG – scoring an upset win like they did against Geelong a month ago – then the winner between the Roos and the Eagles can vault into fourth place.

And either North or West Coast could well hold onto that top-four spot for a while thanks to their relatively soft runs in the coming rounds. The Roos’ next three games are in Melbourne against sides outside the eight in Port Adelaide, Collingwood and St Kilda.

Notch a morale-spiking win on the road today and they easily could find themselves back in the flag hunt at 14-4 after Round 19. On the flipside, if they register their fifth loss in their past six games it will be extremely difficult to generate the momentum they need to finish the season with a surge and reclaim a top-four spot.

The Eagles, meanwhile, have very winnable games over the next four rounds against Carlton (away), Melbourne (home), Collingwood (away) and Fremantle (home). They would look out of place in the top four after this round but these are the surprises of such a tight season.

West Coast have been rampant at home this year, in blinding contrast to their meek efforts outside WA. Their seven home wins may have been by an average margin of 69 points, but the one time they faced a quality opponent, Adelaide, the Eagles folded before a disappointed home crowd.

Last year’s grand finalists were widely expected to push deep into September again this season, and many pundits and fans rated them premiership favourites. Fifteen rounds into the season and they look like pretenders, having lost all five of their matches against current top eight opponents, including lopsided matches against Sydney, Geelong and Hawthorn.

Against quality sides their midfield has been exposed again and again, both for a lack of midfield grunt and outside polish. The one player who was saving their midfield from being an embarrassment was champion ruckman Nic Naitanui.

Now that they’ve been stripped of their most valuable player in Naitanui, the Eagles look decidedly vulnerable today. West Coast’s on ballers are used to operating from a position of great advantage due to Naitanui’s aerial prowess.

Today they’ll be forced into the unfamiliar scenario of needing to read the taps of the opposition ruckman in Todd Goldstein.

The reigning All-Australian ruckman will control the stoppages. A fine ruck counterpart for Naitanui, Scott Lycett is still unproven as a number one big man and is not close to being in the same league as Goldstein.

With Naitanui in the side West Coast would deservedly be robust favourites to triumph today. His absence makes it close to a 50-50 contest in my opinion, and one which neither side can afford to lose.

Today, one of these teams will have their grand final hopes extinguished while the other will dare to dream.

The Crowd Says:

2016-07-11T04:43:42+00:00

Jones

Guest


Love how Hawthorn just keeps on keeping on.

2016-07-11T02:06:52+00:00

Richard

Guest


Yes I do , the ROOS will hang onto 8th by their fingernails...They probably only need to win 2 of their last 6 .. PORT ( ES ) PIES ( ES ) SAINTS ( ES ) HAWKS ( MCG ) SWANS ( BLUNDSTONE) GWS ( ES )

2016-07-11T00:29:20+00:00

Jamie Radford

Roar Pro


Probably not, but stranger things have happened.

2016-07-11T00:25:29+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


So you agree the top 8 is already set then?

2016-07-11T00:14:22+00:00

Richard

Guest


TWAS the ROOS are no good ...1st to 7th in 5 weeks... They are done champ ..They will limp into 8th and get knocked out week one..

2016-07-10T22:57:27+00:00

bryan

Guest


Well,North got very nicely beaten by the WCE, I don't know about the "very winnable games" coming up for WCE--------I wouldn't pencil in a win against Freo. The Eagles have a habit of losing Derbies which they should have won "on paper",then going into the next round carrying injuries & suspensions due to the "full on" nature of Western Derbies. Port will fade---they always do! My head is still spinning about Freo being beaten (& well beaten) by Melbourne. In previous years that would be like being mugged by a Quokka!

2016-07-10T22:16:03+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Nothing in life is certain. What is certainly unlikely though, is a team outside the top 8 who hasn't beaten a top 8 side, beating a top 8 side who has yet to lose to a side outside the top 8.

2016-07-10T07:01:10+00:00

Swannies

Guest


Final 8 is not settled...North will drop 5 or 6 games and Port or Pies to move into 8. That will be a good reward for a strong finish to the season. Swans and Geelong will be too good for the rest come September.

2016-07-10T04:24:01+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


Is this to do with the 1996 Grand Final?

2016-07-10T04:17:16+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


You keep harping on about this but as I soundly pointed out to you, this will not happen. North right now are 3 wins ahead of the closest chaser, Port. Port's best chance is overtaking WCE. But if North lose they'll be 3 wins ahead of Port also.

2016-07-10T04:15:00+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


Will not happen. The 8 won't change. Port are closest and are 2 wins out. If WCE win today, that would be 3 wins out with only 7 remaining games.

2016-07-10T03:00:48+00:00

Swannies

Guest


Goodnight North...the slump will continue...in 5 weeks they will probably be out of the eight and never mentioned again. Port or Collingwood look a better chance to snatch final spot. Would love to see pies in the final at north's expense!

2016-07-10T00:56:12+00:00

Howie

Roar Pro


"adding to credentials", doesn't count as much as winning games does in who makes the 4 or even the 2, as the Eagles showed last year.

2016-07-09T23:34:15+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Collingwood AND Melbourne. Although, I'd say Geelong and umpire assisted Hawthorn are the two weakest of the top 8...not WC and North. Without the umps, the Hawks have 5 less wins. WC are the best of the top 8 right now and when NicNat comes back, they will be more of a threat. NM will make finals comfortably.

2016-07-09T23:30:16+00:00

BigAl

Guest


A win for North here would be much more important than a win for the Eagles. If North win, everyone will be taking them very seriously again. If the Eagles prevail, even in a blowout(which I doubt), it won't add to their finals credentials in anyone's eyes.

2016-07-09T23:13:11+00:00

Jamie Radford

Roar Pro


Honestly can't see either of these two sides making top four, and reckon the loser could very well be in danger of missing out on finals altogether - particularly North who have a difficult draw, and could lose all but two games. I'll probably be howled down here, but IF Collingwood can keep playing like they did yesterday, they are a legitimate chance if one of these two do fall away.

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